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If I were FSU, I would be looking at two coaches then: Mike Leach at Washington State (known disciplinarian @ Texas Tech) and Jeff Monken @ Army. You don't get any more disciplined than the military, IMO.
11-03-2019 05:09 PM
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Got dang it! No Urban Meyer
11-03-2019 05:31 PM
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Bob Stoops is being mentioned
11-03-2019 06:08 PM
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(11-03-2019 10:21 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(11-03-2019 01:17 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:56 AM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  I think the days of going after high profile coaches has or is coming to an end. Why the HELL would Dabo leave what he has clearly established in his tenure at Clemson? Oh he went to Alabama and played there etc, but what does that really mean? Nothing what so ever. He is higher than all mighty down there, and they are not letting him go, and I don’t think he is willing to walk away either.

The FSU job is one of the better high profile jobs out there regardless of bias opinion, but like a poster and others have mentioned I wasn’t stunned when they announced Taggart the HC of the Noles. If they were going to have someone come in and change everything up from the get go then they should have scoured the nation fo the best fit, and WT is not the best fit at FSU. They need to go back to their glory days, and I don’t mean go back and pull a coach who had previously been there, but a playing style they are known for and that’s DEFENSE. The Noles use to be one of the top defenses in all the of college football, and they thrives on that success, and that’s what they need is an identity something they don’t have at all.

I don’t know who the next HC will be, but I would go with a defensive guru type of guy and hire the best dam OC and coaches to go with it, and tell them the offense is your thing, but defense is mine. There is someone out there who fits this pedigree I assure you, but going after high profile coaches isn’t the answer. Look at smaller conference for what they are doing even look at the smaller power 5 guys. Just remember going after the big hot shot coach is great, but what does that really bring you when looking at the LONG TERM OUT LOOK of your dying program?
One place that often gets overlooked for coaching talent is the NFL, IMO. Alabama pulled Saban from there to begin with. I'm surprised more college programs aren't scouring the NFL for coaching talent.

From my understanding, once you get to coach in the NFL, going back to coach at the college level is a step back or demotion with the dreaded grind of recruiting. Thats what David Walkers sister told me several years ago, when I ran into her at an Applebees, after I asked her if she thought he would ever consider coming back to coach at SU. David Walker is a former SU running back who had a brief stint in the NFL and then coached at SU under Paul Pasqualoni until Pasqualoni was fired in 2003. Walker was an NFL assistant until earlier this year when he left to spend time with his family
That's a real shame, IMO, because college football is awesome too.
11-03-2019 06:12 PM
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(11-03-2019 06:12 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(11-03-2019 10:21 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  From my understanding, once you get to coach in the NFL, going back to coach at the college level is a step back or demotion with the dreaded grind of recruiting. Thats what David Walkers sister told me several years ago, when I ran into her at an Applebees, after I asked her if she thought he would ever consider coming back to coach at SU. David Walker is a former SU running back who had a brief stint in the NFL and then coached at SU under Paul Pasqualoni until Pasqualoni was fired in 2003. Walker was an NFL assistant until earlier this year when he left to spend time with his family
That's a real shame, IMO, because college football is awesome too.

And the salaries are comparable if not better in College for the elite jobs.
11-03-2019 06:26 PM
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Two years isn't long. This could be the Solich-Nebraska kinda move FSU regrets for a decade.
11-03-2019 06:44 PM
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(11-03-2019 06:44 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Two years isn't long. This could be the Solich-Nebraska kinda move FSU regrets for a decade.

Not even 2 years. 1 3/4 years. I hope the better coaching candidates aren't turned off by knowing they may only have 2 years to get thing running.
11-03-2019 06:53 PM
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(11-03-2019 06:53 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(11-03-2019 06:44 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Two years isn't long. This could be the Solich-Nebraska kinda move FSU regrets for a decade.

Not even 2 years. 1 3/4 years. I hope the better coaching candidates aren't turned off by knowing they may only have 2 years to get thing running.

No, because a real coach with real experience will clean up the locker room and instill discipline

Things were getting worse with Taggart, not better. I think if he had shown any improvement at all, he would have gotten more time.

He was a bad hire and a bad fit, not some guy who just needed some more time because he was about to turn a corner
11-03-2019 08:45 PM
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(11-03-2019 06:44 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Two years isn't long. This could be the Solich-Nebraska kinda move FSU regrets for a decade.

Solich was a winner.
11-03-2019 11:16 PM
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(11-03-2019 08:45 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(11-03-2019 06:53 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(11-03-2019 06:44 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Two years isn't long. This could be the Solich-Nebraska kinda move FSU regrets for a decade.

Not even 2 years. 1 3/4 years. I hope the better coaching candidates aren't turned off by knowing they may only have 2 years to get thing running.

No, because a real coach with real experience will clean up the locker room and instill discipline

Things were getting worse with Taggart, not better. I think if he had shown any improvement at all, he would have gotten more time.

He was a bad hire and a bad fit, not some guy who just needed some more time because he was about to turn a corner

Supposedly, one of the problems is that boosters shelled out for Kendal Briles and Willie was supposed to be a CEO/recruiter style coach. Instead they're disorganized constantly and Willie was meddling with the offense, irritating the boosters
11-03-2019 11:42 PM
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