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Dave Clawson
I hear all the time about how good of a coach David Cutcliffe is at Duke. He is an awesome coach but why isn’t Clawson as highly praised? The guy has made Wake competitive in a short time. I didn’t realize Wake had won 3 bowl games in a row. He deserves a big raise lol.
05-18-2019 01:09 PM
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(05-18-2019 01:09 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  I hear all the time about how good of a coach David Cutcliffe is at Duke. He is an awesome coach but why isn’t Clawson as highly praised? The guy has made Wake competitive in a short time. I didn’t realize Wake had won 3 bowl games in a row. He deserves a big raise lol.

Wake has the smallest fan base of any of the schools...so not as many fans posting. Also, he has had two 6 win and one 7 win regular seasons the last three years. That is good but not great.
05-18-2019 01:29 PM
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Clawson is VERY good. Both he and Cutcliffe have built bowl-winning programs where the teams were losing 90% of their games when these coaches arrived.
All I can figure is that Cut came from an SEC team while Claw came from a G5 IIRC. Shouldn't matter, bet it does.
05-18-2019 01:31 PM
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RE: Dave Clawson
Clawson is well regarded. Even if you discount the seemingly guaranteed W vs NC State.

Cutcliffe has a longer P5 history and is more personable. The press loves him.
05-18-2019 03:28 PM
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(05-18-2019 01:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Clawson is VERY good. Both he and Cutcliffe have built bowl-winning programs where the teams were losing 90% of their games when these coaches arrived.
All I can figure is that Cut came from an SEC team while Claw came from a G5 IIRC. Shouldn't matter, bet it does.

Not to pick nits or anything, but Clawson's predecessor (Grobe) won 77 games in his 13 year tenure (48%), not to mention an ACC championship. That compares favorably with Clawson's 28 wins in 5 years (44%). Before Cutcliffe, on the other hand, Duke was literally deemed by a court to be the worst football program in all of FBS, winning a total of 9 conference games in 13 years.
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(05-18-2019 07:46 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 01:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Clawson is VERY good. Both he and Cutcliffe have built bowl-winning programs where the teams were losing 90% of their games when these coaches arrived.
All I can figure is that Cut came from an SEC team while Claw came from a G5 IIRC. Shouldn't matter, bet it does.

Not to pick nits or anything, but Clawson's predecessor (Grobe) won 77 games in his 13 year tenure (48%), not to mention an ACC championship. That compares favorably with Clawson's 28 wins in 5 years (44%). Before Cutcliffe, on the other hand, Duke was literally deemed by a court to be the worst football program in all of FBS, winning a total of 9 conference games in 13 years.

They also won 3 bowl games in 13 years.
05-18-2019 09:23 PM
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(05-18-2019 07:46 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 01:31 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Clawson is VERY good. Both he and Cutcliffe have built bowl-winning programs where the teams were losing 90% of their games when these coaches arrived.
All I can figure is that Cut came from an SEC team while Claw came from a G5 IIRC. Shouldn't matter, bet it does.

Not to pick nits or anything, but Clawson's predecessor (Grobe) won 77 games in his 13 year tenure (48%), not to mention an ACC championship. That compares favorably with Clawson's 28 wins in 5 years (44%). Before Cutcliffe, on the other hand, Duke was literally deemed by a court to be the worst football program in all of FBS, winning a total of 9 conference games in 13 years.

Grobe's last 5 seasons at WFU:
2009: 5-7
2010: 3-9
2011: 6-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 4-8

so I guess not absolutely putrid - I see your point.

Grobe's best 3-year run was 2006-08, in which he went 11-3, 9-4, 8-5 (followed by the above).

Grobe got 'em there FIRST, then Clawson got 'em back.
OTOH, Spurrier was a distant memory at Duke when Cutcliffe arrived.
05-19-2019 06:15 AM
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