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RE: ACC Network
One more question...... does anyone know the "new details of the ESPN/ACCN Contract...." for example ithe old from 2012:

Tier 1
ESPN, gets 30 ACC FB games and 60 ACC MBB games, plus co-coverage of the ACCT. It's Tobacco Road good ol' boy arrangement.

Tier2
Raycom outsources a large fraction, if not the majority of those games to Fox Sports South. Raycom Sports TV affiliates are just a bunch of individual stations/channels scattered across the country.

http://tiny.cc/acc_affiliates

Tier3/syndicated via Raycom??

Fox Sports South is part of the Regional Sports Network, so out games get syndicated to that as ACC RSN TV affiliates.

http://tiny.cc/rsn_affiliates


What is the new details???
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(05-18-2019 08:41 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  One more question...... does anyone know the "new details of the ESPN/ACCN Contract...." for example ithe old from 2012:

Tier 1
ESPN, gets 30 ACC FB games and 60 ACC MBB games, plus co-coverage of the ACCT. It's Tobacco Road good ol' boy arrangement.

Tier2
Raycom outsources a large fraction, if not the majority of those games to Fox Sports South. Raycom Sports TV affiliates are just a bunch of individual stations/channels scattered across the country.

http://tiny.cc/acc_affiliates

Tier3/syndicated via Raycom??

Fox Sports South is part of the Regional Sports Network, so out games get syndicated to that as ACC RSN TV affiliates.

http://tiny.cc/rsn_affiliates


What is the new details???

I believe Raycom was getting about 20 GB games per year - which are now all going to the ACCN if I understand correctly. RSNs will continue to get 17 games. ESPN3 is off the table, but there will be a few ACC network extra games.

AFAIK the selection order is:
1 ABC
2 ESPN / ESPN2
3 ACCN
4 RSN
5 other
TBH, not sure where ESPNU falls.
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RE: ACC Network
(05-18-2019 11:07 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 08:41 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  One more question...... does anyone know the "new details of the ESPN/ACCN Contract...." for example ithe old from 2012:

Tier 1
ESPN, gets 30 ACC FB games and 60 ACC MBB games, plus co-coverage of the ACCT. It's Tobacco Road good ol' boy arrangement.

Tier2
Raycom outsources a large fraction, if not the majority of those games to Fox Sports South. Raycom Sports TV affiliates are just a bunch of individual stations/channels scattered across the country.

http://tiny.cc/acc_affiliates

Tier3/syndicated via Raycom??

Fox Sports South is part of the Regional Sports Network, so out games get syndicated to that as ACC RSN TV affiliates.

http://tiny.cc/rsn_affiliates


What is the new details???

I believe Raycom was getting about 20 GB games per year - which are now all going to the ACCN if I understand correctly. RSNs will continue to get 17 games. ESPN3 is off the table, but there will be a few ACC network extra games.

AFAIK the selection order is:
1 ABC
2 ESPN / ESPN2
3 ACCN
4 RSN
5 other
TBH, not sure where ESPNU falls.

Just exactly who are the RSNs? Are the games now going to Sinclair since they own the FOX RSNs?
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(05-20-2019 05:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 11:07 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 08:41 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  One more question...... does anyone know the "new details of the ESPN/ACCN Contract...." for example ithe old from 2012:

Tier 1
ESPN, gets 30 ACC FB games and 60 ACC MBB games, plus co-coverage of the ACCT. It's Tobacco Road good ol' boy arrangement.

Tier2
Raycom outsources a large fraction, if not the majority of those games to Fox Sports South. Raycom Sports TV affiliates are just a bunch of individual stations/channels scattered across the country.

http://tiny.cc/acc_affiliates

Tier3/syndicated via Raycom??

Fox Sports South is part of the Regional Sports Network, so out games get syndicated to that as ACC RSN TV affiliates.

http://tiny.cc/rsn_affiliates


What is the new details???

I believe Raycom was getting about 20 GB games per year - which are now all going to the ACCN if I understand correctly. RSNs will continue to get 17 games. ESPN3 is off the table, but there will be a few ACC network extra games.

AFAIK the selection order is:
1 ABC
2 ESPN / ESPN2
3 ACCN
4 RSN
5 other
TBH, not sure where ESPNU falls.

Just exactly who are the RSNs? Are the games now going to Sinclair since they own the FOX RSNs?

Yes, Sinclair owns them now. I'm sure they will put their own spin on the graphics and Network theme song. I think this is a good thing as it broadens the reach of the ACC.
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I ditched YouTubeTV for PS Vue over the weekend. Made sure to tell YT it was because there was no ACCN.
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(05-20-2019 08:13 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I ditched YouTubeTV for PS Vue over the weekend. Made sure to tell YT it was because there was no ACCN.

I'm going to make a lot of noise while I'm with Spectrum. If they add ACCN, fine. If not, there's still time to switch...

...if I do switch I'm coming over to PS Vue as well.
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I'll give Youtube TV until Labor Day weekend to get their sh!t together....or bye bye to them
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RE: ACC Network
(05-20-2019 09:12 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-20-2019 08:13 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I ditched YouTubeTV for PS Vue over the weekend. Made sure to tell YT it was because there was no ACCN.

I'm going to make a lot of noise while I'm with Spectrum. If they add ACCN, fine. If not, there's still time to switch...

...if I do switch I'm coming over to PS Vue as well.

I really enjoy HULU... You can watch Two TV screens at the same time for 45 dollars a month... It has all Local channels in Georgia... Plus the sports Package is in base price, There are extra fees for HBO and stuff...


Sports Channels in base Price

ACC Network August 2019

Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN Bases Loaded
ESPN Goal Line
ESPN2
ESPNews
ESPN College Extra
ESPNU
FS1
FS2
Golf Channel
NBCSN
Olympic Channel
SEC Network
TBS ( March madness)
TNT (March madness/NBA Playoffs)
truTV ( March madness)
Sinclair/Fox Sports South (RSN)
Sinclair/Fox Sports Southeast (RSN)

Link on Hulu from APRIL 27, 2018
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hu...202790336/
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RE: ACC Network
(05-21-2019 10:57 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(05-20-2019 09:12 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-20-2019 08:13 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I ditched YouTubeTV for PS Vue over the weekend. Made sure to tell YT it was because there was no ACCN.

I'm going to make a lot of noise while I'm with Spectrum. If they add ACCN, fine. If not, there's still time to switch...

...if I do switch I'm coming over to PS Vue as well.

I really enjoy HULU... You can watch Two TV screens at the same time for 45 dollars a month... It has all Local channels in Georgia... Plus the sports Package is in base price, There are extra fees for HBO and stuff...


Sports Channels in base Price

ACC Network August 2019
Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN2
EPSNU
ESPNews
SEC Network
Fox Sports 1
Fox Sports 2
Golf Channel
NBCSN
TBS ( March madness)
TNT (March madness/NBA Playoffs)
Sinclair/Fox Sports South (RSN)
Sinclair/Fox Sports Southeast (RSN)

Link on Hulu from APRIL 27, 2018
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hu...202790336/

FWIW, Sinclair and Hulu are in a spitting contest about Hulu's refusal to carry the Tennis Channel. Because of Hulu's refusal/Sinclair's demand, Sinclair has refused to license local channels that it owns to Hulu. CBS has gone around Sinclair and licensed a CBS national feed to Hulu in markets affecting carriage of CBS, but the NFL is not included in the CBS national feed. All other sports programming from CBS is available.

I note this because Sinclair may try to use its RSNs to leverage carriage of its various pretty lame cable channels onto multichannel providers in the same manner.
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Nobody cares about the Tennis Channel, and I say that as somebody who has had a USTA membership for a considerable amount of time.
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They also have The Olympic Channel.
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(05-21-2019 11:25 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  They also have The Olympic Channel.

Sounds like they can partner with the Big 4. You don't need a TV channel for what amounts to an average use of 1.5 weeks a year.
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(05-21-2019 10:57 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(05-20-2019 09:12 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-20-2019 08:13 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I ditched YouTubeTV for PS Vue over the weekend. Made sure to tell YT it was because there was no ACCN.

I'm going to make a lot of noise while I'm with Spectrum. If they add ACCN, fine. If not, there's still time to switch...

...if I do switch I'm coming over to PS Vue as well.

I really enjoy HULU... You can watch Two TV screens at the same time for 45 dollars a month... It has all Local channels in Georgia... Plus the sports Package is in base price, There are extra fees for HBO and stuff...


Sports Channels in base Price

ACC Network August 2019
Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN2
EPSNU
ESPNews
SEC Network
Fox Sports 1
Fox Sports 2
Golf Channel
NBCSN
TBS ( March madness)
TNT (March madness/NBA Playoffs)
Sinclair/Fox Sports South (RSN)
Sinclair/Fox Sports Southeast (RSN)

Link on Hulu from APRIL 27, 2018
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/hu...202790336/

Here are the channels in PS Vue "Core" Pkg ($49.95)
Sports Channels:
ACCN (coming soon)
Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNews
ESPNU
FS1
FS2
MLB Network
NBA TV
NBCSN
NFL Network
Olympic Channel
SEC Network
TBS
TNT
truTV

missing: Golf, Sinclair RSNs (which will have some ACC games)
extras: MLB, NFL, NBA, Olympic channels

Those ACC RSN games may push me to Hulu... looks like for $45/month it includes access to the Hulu movie/tv archives too.
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(05-21-2019 12:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the channels in PS Vue "Core" Pkg ($49.95)
Sports Channels:
ACCN (coming soon)
Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNews
ESPNU
FS1
FS2
MLB Network
NBA TV
NBCSN
NFL Network
Olympic Channel
SEC Network
TBS
TNT
truTV

missing: Golf, Sinclair RSNs (which will have some ACC games)
extras: MLB, NFL, NBA, Olympic channels

Those ACC RSN games may push me to Hulu... looks like for $45/month it includes access to the Hulu movie/tv archives too.



I just got PS Vue and it included Fox Sports South and Fox Sports Carolinas. That would be the Sinclair RSNs.
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(05-21-2019 12:17 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(05-21-2019 12:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Here are the channels in PS Vue "Core" Pkg ($49.95)
Sports Channels:
ACCN (coming soon)
Big Ten Network
CBS Sports Network
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNews
ESPNU
FS1
FS2
MLB Network
NBA TV
NBCSN
NFL Network
Olympic Channel
SEC Network
TBS
TNT
truTV

missing: Golf, Sinclair RSNs (which will have some ACC games)
extras: MLB, NFL, NBA, Olympic channels

Those ACC RSN games may push me to Hulu... looks like for $45/month it includes access to the Hulu movie/tv archives too.

I just got PS Vue and it included Fox Sports South and Fox Sports Carolinas. That would be the Sinclair RSNs.

COOL. So it all boils down to this: do I value the HULU movie archives > MLB+NBA+NFLN (Olympic and Golf cancel out!)

Having C-USA on NFLN could be the tipping point...!
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Quote:Wildhack [the Syracuse AD] said there are a handful of things that fans shouldn’t expect to see on the network. He anticipates the network focusing on live-event coverage, so it’s unlikely that it would broadcast post-game press conferences with great frequency.

He does not anticipate that they would broadcast coaches’ shows would be broadcast on a weekly basis. He said the league has not discussed whether weekly press conferences will be broadcast.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketbal...osure.html

I’d be more interested in postgame press conferences than replays of field hockey games.
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ESPN has announced that the ACC Network will broadcast 40 football games, 150 men’s and women’s basketball games and 200 other live events in its initial season. Wildhack said the biggest difference for fans will be in the amount of non-revenue sports offerings that will be broadcast on cable television.

“One of the attributes of the network is the increased exposure for Olympic sports and women’s sports,” Wildhack said. “There will be distinct programming nights for volleyball, for field hockey, for softball, for tennis, etc. It’s really going to increase the exposure for Olympic sports and women’s sports. I think that’s great in terms of connecting with our fanbase, and I think we can also use that obviously as a recruiting tool and we will.”

He expects soccer to have a prominent role on Sundays, when it won’t be competing for attention with college football.

“Weekends, Sunday, you’ll see a lot of soccer in the Fall,” Wildhack said. “Volleyball, you’ll see weekend events, but you’ll also week nights as well. That’s relatively consistent with what we’ve done in the past so it’s not a dramatic change in the competition schedule.”

The women’s volleyball team played just two games that weren’t on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday last season. Syracuse’s men’s soccer team played on four Sundays last Fall, while the women played on six.

“(The scheduling) will change some,” Wildhack said. “But I don’t think it will change dramatically. ... We want to do everything we can not to increase missed class time.”

ACC Network Extra will still exist
While the ACC Network will reduce the number of high-profile games broadcast on ACC Network Extra (which is streaming-only) it won’t eliminate the use of the option that has frequently received mixed reviews from customers.

The ACC and ESPN will likely continue to put a handful of attractive games on ACC Network but a reasonable way to think about the channel is to anticipate that it will broadcast the games that have traditionally been placed on local television and regional sports networks through the league’s Raycom Sports agreement, as well as some additional games.

For the most part, marquee games will still be placed primarily on ABC, ESPN and ESPN2, with the ACC Network taking the next games in the pecking order. The least attractive football and basketball games will continue to be on ACC Network Extra.

(ACC Network Extra) will still carry some (football and basketball games),” Wildhack said. “When you look at the schedule, particularly non-conference, where you have more inventory, you need the overflow channel. The ACC Network Extra presents that opportunity. ... That’s still an important part. It’s there to complement and ensure that fans can watch every event.”

Non-revenue sports will also be broadcast with frequency on ACC Network Extra.

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(05-17-2019 06:37 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Somebody more familiar with the ACC's TV rights ... isn't this just Tier 3?

--> ESPN/ESPN2
----> ESPNU/ACCN
------> ACCRSN/WatchESPN
--------> Direct deals between individual schools for OTA

Does any school have deals for OTA in their area??? It sounds like the order is starting in August 2019..

--> ABC/ESPN/ESPN2
----> ACCN
------> ACC on RSN
--------> ACC Network Extra via WatchESPN
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