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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 10:36 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 02:34 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 12:56 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 09:38 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  They own the majority of all media outlets in the country and they are heavily criticized for promoting their political slant and for their use of heavy propaganda during the last election.

They have coordinated messaging across "local" news to push a political agenda. Local news should be truly local and not have any of that involved in it. There was a video recently that showed multiple Sinclair "local" broadcasts making the same broadcasts across the nation, all synced up together. There's also been reports from people working on these broadcasts that were ordered to give them.

Also the fact that Sinclair doesn't use onsite personnel for sports broadcasts, they're stuck in a studio somewhere. It's just cheap.

And what political agenda was that? They stated that there is unbiased and false news reporting going on, which is very true, and that they wouldn't be a part of it. Isn't it a message saying they won't be political and their agenda is the truth.

My guess is you don’t actually believe this, but rather are all for what Sinclair is and what their goals are.

If you sincerely DO believe it, then, well, Sinclair has done well to get their message to folks like you.

Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.
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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 10:36 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 02:34 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 12:56 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  They have coordinated messaging across "local" news to push a political agenda. Local news should be truly local and not have any of that involved in it. There was a video recently that showed multiple Sinclair "local" broadcasts making the same broadcasts across the nation, all synced up together. There's also been reports from people working on these broadcasts that were ordered to give them.

Also the fact that Sinclair doesn't use onsite personnel for sports broadcasts, they're stuck in a studio somewhere. It's just cheap.

And what political agenda was that? They stated that there is unbiased and false news reporting going on, which is very true, and that they wouldn't be a part of it. Isn't it a message saying they won't be political and their agenda is the truth.

My guess is you don’t actually believe this, but rather are all for what Sinclair is and what their goals are.

If you sincerely DO believe it, then, well, Sinclair has done well to get their message to folks like you.

Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.
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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 10:36 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 02:34 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  And what political agenda was that? They stated that there is unbiased and false news reporting going on, which is very true, and that they wouldn't be a part of it. Isn't it a message saying they won't be political and their agenda is the truth.

My guess is you don’t actually believe this, but rather are all for what Sinclair is and what their goals are.

If you sincerely DO believe it, then, well, Sinclair has done well to get their message to folks like you.

Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.
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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 10:36 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  My guess is you don’t actually believe this, but rather are all for what Sinclair is and what their goals are.

If you sincerely DO believe it, then, well, Sinclair has done well to get their message to folks like you.

Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.
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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

Lol
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RE: Sinclai back in Fox Rsn bidding
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.
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(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Couldn’t have said it better myself
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(05-10-2019 10:56 AM)debragga Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

Yes. I’m suffering some severe cognitive dissonance from reading all of pantheralum’s responses. If he keeps going, I’m going to want to high-five him and buy him a beer - possibly ripping a hole in space time.
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It's great how the members of this Board can put aside their liberal/conservative biases and only talk sports facts and opinions with a "homer" bias.
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(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 02:32 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Sinclair isn't a news channel like CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, who hand picks their anchors/correspondents because of their views and agendas, which typically all line up. They are the owner of a 150+ of local affiliates. Sure, the management has their political views and goals, but the hundreds upon hundreds of anchors across their network are hired and managed locally and have a wide array of opinions and views. So what if management sent out an identical message for all local stations to deliver regarding their mission to try and deliver truthful news without bias? Most companies have a mission statement.

http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

Lmao.
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(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-07-2019 03:54 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  http://joshuamccrain.com/localnews.pdf

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/si...-affiliate

Yep....never any slant. Sure thing.

My biggest thing is that local news should be LOCAL. Very little national news should be injected at that level. That's typically why a local news evening broadcast has been followed by a national news broadcast, or at least that's how it used to be. Local news has no reason to be biased in any way, it should just be reporting on the day's events. Yes there are segments that are comparable to an editorial, but they are easy to pick out. The problem these days is networks have gotten savvy at injecting non-news/editorialization and presenting it as news, thereby warping the data being consumed by the average person.

Local affiliates reach way more people as a linear broadcast available at little to no cost these days....it has a greater impact in terms of influence. These broadcasts should not be allowed to be weaponized.

I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.
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Always Remember: The media are not in the business to make sure you're informed or even to push an agenda. They're in the business to make money.

A lot of these local affiliates sell themselves out to Sinclair because they're struggling and they think what they're doing can inject some life into these outlets.

If you don't like what's Sinclair is doing to local news, stop b****ing about it and do more to support local news. We millenials and Gen Z like to complain about this stuff but we aren't tuning in on TV to these tations or buying local newspapers and when we do look at stories from local outlets we expect to get them for free on the internet.

We get the media we deserve.
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(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by conservatives, then I don't know what world you’re living in. Of course there is liberal media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and it doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

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(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Oh yeah, right, I forgot about AT&T, those bleeding-heart, true-believer liberals who just became the biggest media and telecom conglomerate in the history of the world. They’re all about shaping the world in their left-wing image.

You are on another planet, my friend. Again, I feel sorry for you. Name all of these “liberal controlled” media and give us some evidence they are owned by liberal activists. Do it, go ahead and waste your time trying. Just spouting off crap and not offering anything to back it up obviously works for people who watch/read/hear whatever it is you’re consuming, but not in the real world.
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(05-10-2019 12:04 PM)CC Eagle Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 10:56 AM)debragga Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

Yes. I’m suffering some severe cognitive dissonance from reading all of pantheralum’s responses. If he keeps going, I’m going to want to high-five him and buy him a beer - possibly ripping a hole in space time.

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(05-10-2019 02:26 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Oh yeah, right, I forgot about AT&T, those bleeding-heart, true-believer liberals who just became the biggest media and telecom conglomerate in the history of the world. They’re all about shaping the world in their left-wing image.

You are on another planet, my friend. Again, I feel sorry for you. Name all of these “liberal controlled” media and give us some evidence they are owned by liberal activists. Do it, go ahead and waste your time trying. Just spouting off crap and not offering anything to back it up obviously works for people who watch/read/hear whatever it is you’re consuming, but not in the real world.

Haha, don't think we're quite on the same page here. I never said anything about whatever media being owned by liberal activists. I just said that the media was majority liberal controlled. Meaning that the members of the media significantly lean that way.
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(05-10-2019 10:56 AM)debragga Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 11:28 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-08-2019 12:55 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  I agree that local news should be local. I also don't like editorials posing as news. But everything is pretty much biased now. Vox is biased. Those researchers are probably biased. CNN is biased, Fox News is biased, MSNBC is biased, NY Times is biased, Washington Post is biased. They have all been weaponized. Seems like you just have a problem with one side of it being biased.

Show me the liberal activist corporation that's hell-bent on buying up hundreds of local media properties in this country in order to push an ideology and you might have a point.

Of course we all know the national outlets and 24-hour news channels cater to certain audiences.

Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1DQ0TH

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...cast_Group

https://www.newyorker.com/business/curre...its-owners

Three examples of conservative influence in media off the top of my head. Let’s see if BigRed cares to find one example from the other side. I’m not saying there aren’t any—just that he’s too lazy and ill-informed to produce them.
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(05-10-2019 02:51 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 02:26 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 08:42 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Liberals already control the media and are pushing an ideology, so they don't have to buy anything up.

I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Oh yeah, right, I forgot about AT&T, those bleeding-heart, true-believer liberals who just became the biggest media and telecom conglomerate in the history of the world. They’re all about shaping the world in their left-wing image.

You are on another planet, my friend. Again, I feel sorry for you. Name all of these “liberal controlled” media and give us some evidence they are owned by liberal activists. Do it, go ahead and waste your time trying. Just spouting off crap and not offering anything to back it up obviously works for people who watch/read/hear whatever it is you’re consuming, but not in the real world.

Haha, don't think we're quite on the same page here. I never said anything about whatever media being owned by liberal activists. I just said that the media was majority liberal controlled. Meaning that the members of the media significantly lean that way.

So you’re talking about the reporters and content producers themselves? You have a weird idea of what “control” means then. To me, control is from the people up top. And the people up top, the owners and executives and money driving and shaping the industry, tend to be wealthy people who are mostly interested in creating more wealth for themselves and their shareholders. I’ve seen plenty of numbers suggesting reporters themselves skew one way or the other, and by how much, but that isn’t true control. You said yourself that there are both liberal and conservative biased media. If you want right-leaning reporting, you know where to go. Same for people seeking opinions with slant left. I’m just saying the people who truly are in power—the people who control them and write the checks—are not majority liberal.

Heck, the Murdochs own both News Corp and the Wall Street Journal. One is blatantly right and shilling for a president, but the WSJ is pretty respected all-around while still having some conservative tendencies. I know fairly liberal people who read WSJ daily. So the properties under one group (in this case the very conservative Murdochs) can have different angles and cater to different audiences. You can read about entities like Google and Bezos donating to political causes on both the left and right, basically pumping money into whatever initiatives they think can help them make even more money. They are political insofar as it helps them gain market share and defeat the competition (and be as free of regulation as possible, which generally aligns with the conservative agenda, but I do acknowledge they will support whatever helps them the most, either side).

Your idea of “control” is wack. The people on the ground don’t truly shape the agenda. The big wigs do.
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(05-10-2019 03:11 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 02:51 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 02:26 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-09-2019 12:53 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  I could have scripted this response for you. You poor, poor dupe, thinking this is reality and falling for the myth that’s pushed on you by the media you consume. The media is controlled by liberals, says the guy who clearly consumes tons of media that is not controlled by liberals.

I truly feel sorry for people like you.

Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Oh yeah, right, I forgot about AT&T, those bleeding-heart, true-believer liberals who just became the biggest media and telecom conglomerate in the history of the world. They’re all about shaping the world in their left-wing image.

You are on another planet, my friend. Again, I feel sorry for you. Name all of these “liberal controlled” media and give us some evidence they are owned by liberal activists. Do it, go ahead and waste your time trying. Just spouting off crap and not offering anything to back it up obviously works for people who watch/read/hear whatever it is you’re consuming, but not in the real world.

Haha, don't think we're quite on the same page here. I never said anything about whatever media being owned by liberal activists. I just said that the media was majority liberal controlled. Meaning that the members of the media significantly lean that way.

So you’re talking about the reporters and content producers themselves? You have a weird idea of what “control” means then. To me, control is from the people up top. And the people up top, the owners and executives and money driving and shaping the industry, tend to be wealthy people who are mostly interested in creating more wealth for themselves and their shareholders. I’ve seen plenty of numbers suggesting reporters themselves skew one way or the other, and by how much, but that isn’t true control. You said yourself that there are both liberal and conservative biased media. If you want right-leaning reporting, you know where to go. Same for people seeking opinions with slant left. I’m just saying the people who truly are in power—the people who control them and write the checks—are not majority liberal.

Heck, the Murdochs own both News Corp and the Wall Street Journal. One is blatantly right and shilling for a president, but the WSJ is pretty respected all-around while still having some conservative tendencies. I know fairly liberal people who read WSJ daily. So the properties under one group (in this case the very conservative Murdochs) can have different angles and cater to different audiences. You can read about entities like Google and Bezos donating to political causes on both the left and right, basically pumping money into whatever initiatives they think can help them make even more money. They are political insofar as it helps them gain market share and defeat the competition (and be as free of regulation as possible, which generally aligns with the conservative agenda, but I do acknowledge they will support whatever helps them the most, either side).

Your idea of “control” is wack. The people on the ground don’t truly shape the agenda. The big wigs do.

It can be both the big wigs and the reporters/producers. One can shape the industry and the other can shape and control the narrative in the public forum.
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(05-10-2019 04:07 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 03:11 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 02:51 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 02:26 PM)07pantheralum Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:39 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  Maybe you're the one being duped, falling for the myth that's being pushed by the media you consume. I consume from multiple sources, multiple viewpoints, and make decisions myself, instead of believing what I hear without checking into it. If you think the mainstream media isn't overwhelmingly run by liberals, then I don't know what world your are living in. Of course there is conservative media too, but their numbers pale in comparison. We obviously have different viewpoints and doesn't look like we will be convincing each other of anything, so I guess we should just get back to talking sports.

Oh yeah, right, I forgot about AT&T, those bleeding-heart, true-believer liberals who just became the biggest media and telecom conglomerate in the history of the world. They’re all about shaping the world in their left-wing image.

You are on another planet, my friend. Again, I feel sorry for you. Name all of these “liberal controlled” media and give us some evidence they are owned by liberal activists. Do it, go ahead and waste your time trying. Just spouting off crap and not offering anything to back it up obviously works for people who watch/read/hear whatever it is you’re consuming, but not in the real world.

Haha, don't think we're quite on the same page here. I never said anything about whatever media being owned by liberal activists. I just said that the media was majority liberal controlled. Meaning that the members of the media significantly lean that way.

So you’re talking about the reporters and content producers themselves? You have a weird idea of what “control” means then. To me, control is from the people up top. And the people up top, the owners and executives and money driving and shaping the industry, tend to be wealthy people who are mostly interested in creating more wealth for themselves and their shareholders. I’ve seen plenty of numbers suggesting reporters themselves skew one way or the other, and by how much, but that isn’t true control. You said yourself that there are both liberal and conservative biased media. If you want right-leaning reporting, you know where to go. Same for people seeking opinions with slant left. I’m just saying the people who truly are in power—the people who control them and write the checks—are not majority liberal.

Heck, the Murdochs own both News Corp and the Wall Street Journal. One is blatantly right and shilling for a president, but the WSJ is pretty respected all-around while still having some conservative tendencies. I know fairly liberal people who read WSJ daily. So the properties under one group (in this case the very conservative Murdochs) can have different angles and cater to different audiences. You can read about entities like Google and Bezos donating to political causes on both the left and right, basically pumping money into whatever initiatives they think can help them make even more money. They are political insofar as it helps them gain market share and defeat the competition (and be as free of regulation as possible, which generally aligns with the conservative agenda, but I do acknowledge they will support whatever helps them the most, either side).

Your idea of “control” is wack. The people on the ground don’t truly shape the agenda. The big wigs do.

It can be both the big wigs and the reporters/producers. One can shape the industry and the other can shape and control the narrative in the public forum.

And I disagree with you that the message overall that gets to the public is overwhelmingly liberal. It just isn’t. Talk radio is so dominated by conservatives it’s not even worth comparing. Fox News is still the king of the 24-hour news channels. If you’re talking about reporters at major metro newspapers, I concede the majority will lean left, but I don’t think it’s even close to as lopsided as you think it is. In short, I don’t know what your gripe is, other than you’re repeating what you are told, which is the media is the enemy and is controlled by one faction. As far as I can tell, the media landscape as a whole isn’t dominated by either right or left...I think it’s catering to (and in some cases inflaming division in) two pretty even factions in this country. I look suspiciously at anyone who claims extreme things like you are with the media. You can be a conservative and not have to demonize media. Why don’t you try thinking for yourself for a change?

You yourself are proof positive that this country isn’t lacking for right-wing media. You have many of the talking points down. You can try to paint me as a lefty wacko, but my main point here is that media in this country isn’t weighted very heavily to either side. At the least, words like “dominate” and “control” shouldn’t come into play in this discussion. That’s a pretty tame claim to make.
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