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RE: College admission scandal
Let me give you a hand there, Skipper (saw your post before it was unapproved):

'Group of 5' is not synonymous with 'not Power 5'.

G-town is in the premier basketball conference in the country.
Yale isn't G5 (lol) and has an endowment larger than most conferences combined.
USD is kind of the odd one out but it's not G5.
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(03-18-2019 06:35 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(03-18-2019 06:22 PM)T2003 Wrote:  I do understand why public schools (UCLA, UT Austin, etc) need to fix these issue but private schools (Ivy League, Stanford, USC, etc) can do whatever they want as long as they don’t violate any NCAA rules, right?

They are still bound by federal laws.

They (for example) can't discriminate on the basis of race, at least not explicitly (they can of course call their admissions "holistic" and rig the criteria to get the outcome they want).

(03-14-2019 02:20 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  A lot of those schools are at the G5 level or lower.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. No one is shelling out six figures to get admission to Houston or Tulane.

Affirmative action much?
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(03-15-2019 11:19 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  You know, the funny thing is (and I don’t Mean funny ha, ha) is that these people felt that they had to “Game” a system that was already rigged in their favor (white kids growing up in homes of wealth and privilege).

What does that say about their faith in their own children, kids who already went into the process with every conceivable advantage, and they still had to cheat.

Seems “corruption” is the watchword these days . . . easy for ordinary folks to be cynical . ..

I don't think you understand college admission at elite schools. Everything you said is false. All of these schools have a minimum ACT or SAT score for acceptance, and these dumb kids had no shot of getting close to that. There's no advantage or "rigging" for these kids that don't meet the requirements. The only way you can get in without those requirements is if someone is an athlete. That's why their parents had to cheat. Also, not all these kids were white. In today's world, especially in college admissions, being white is not an advantage since "diversity" is falsely considered a virtue.
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(03-19-2019 02:01 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 11:19 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  You know, the funny thing is (and I don’t Mean funny ha, ha) is that these people felt that they had to “Game” a system that was already rigged in their favor (white kids growing up in homes of wealth and privilege).

What does that say about their faith in their own children, kids who already went into the process with every conceivable advantage, and they still had to cheat.

Seems “corruption” is the watchword these days . . . easy for ordinary folks to be cynical . ..

I don't think you understand college admission at elite schools. Everything you said is false. All of these schools have a minimum ACT or SAT score for acceptance, and these dumb kids had no shot of getting close to that. There's no advantage or "rigging" for these kids that don't meet the requirements. The only way you can get in without those requirements is if someone is an athlete. That's why their parents had to cheat. Also, not all these kids were white. In today's world, especially in college admissions, being white is not an advantage since "diversity" is falsely considered a virtue.

Had to cheat? That may be the funniest thing I've read all day. Nobody HAS to cheat. These people made a conscious decision to cheat, because they knew their kids couldn't/wouldn't meet the school's entrance requirements.
I never meant to imply that they were ALL white, was speaking to those participants who are white, and did in fact grow up in homes of wealth and privilege in a system that IS already rigged in their favor. If you don't realize that the uber rich get to play by a different set of rules, well I just don't know how to enlighten you.
I stand by what I said about them coming from homes of privilege. If your parents could afford to pay the bribes, and other illicit monies involved in the participation of this scandal, then you did indeed come from a home of privilege.
Go back and look at the list of cheaters, I'm not seeing many with "public housing" addresses.
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(03-19-2019 08:01 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  Affirmative action much?

Yes, and ironically, that just ensures you end up with less socioeconomic diversity and more diversity of appearance.

What's easier to buy: Good test scores or cello lessons, a spot on a traveling sports team, and a mission trip to Timbuktu? It's much easier to be "well-rounded" when you're rich.

What's happening at Stuyvesant High School right now is an example of what happens when merit matters and diversity doesn't. Rich white kids and dark-skinned immigrants from privileged backgrounds take fewer spots and Asians that aren't quite as well off get 70%+ of the spots.
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