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This thread is great. Fan of X school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!
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(03-07-2019 01:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  This thread is great. Fan of X school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!

Lol. This is why i got analytical. Take the subjectivity out of it and lay it out flat so everyone can see where they stand.
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(03-07-2019 01:50 PM)debragga Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:43 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:37 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Does waterskiing and bass fishing count? Lol.

Why not, as long as we get to count our women's Rifle team (another SoCon championship BTW). 04-cheers

And App can count wrestling. Now everybody's happy 02-13-banana



Hey Hey! Now we're talking.
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(03-07-2019 01:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  This thread is great. Fan of GEORGIA SOUTHERN school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!

ok just had to change it so GASO fans can be clued in on where you were going with this.
03-07-2019 02:13 PM
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(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  This thread is great. Fan of GEORGIA SOUTHERN school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!

ok just had to change it so GASO fans can be clued in on where you were going with this.

And change "cherry pick sports" to football, MBB, and baseball.
03-07-2019 02:33 PM
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(03-07-2019 02:33 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  This thread is great. Fan of GEORGIA SOUTHERN school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!

ok just had to change it so GASO fans can be clued in on where you were going with this.

And change "cherry pick sports" to football, MBB, and baseball.

Funny that the GAST fan "cherry picked" the big 3 sports and we're getting bashed for saying we're solid at all 3.

Baseball:
2015 - #4 seed, 0-2
2016 - #6 seed, 3-1, lost in Championship
2017 - #5 seed, 2-1, lost in Championship in 10 innings
2018 - #5 seed, 1-2

Basketball:
2014-2015 - #2 seed, lost in the Championship by 2
2015-2016 - #5 seed, lost in the first round
2016-2017 - #3 seed, lost in the quarterfinals
2017-2018 - #3 seed, lost in the semifinals
2018-2019 - at worst #4 seed

Football:
2014: #1, 9-3 (8-0), won Championship
2015: #3, 9-4 (6-2), finished 2 games back
2016: #6, 5-7 (4-4), Tyson Summers
2017: #10, 2-10 (2-6), Tyson Summers
2018: #3, 10-3 (6-2), finished 1 game back



Meanwhile, App has never finished better than 11th in baseball, and has only finished better than 11th once in basketball (5th in 2018, lost in quarterfinals). Your football accomplishments are very impressive, you must be proud (finishes of #3, #2, #1, #1, #1). But when it comes to baseball and basketball, it's time to take a seat.

Georgia State comes out a little better due to their improvements in football. Basketball has finished with a top 2 seed in 4 of 5 years (other year was 6th), won 2 titles, and played for another. Football finished last or next to last in 3 of 6 years, but finished as high as 4th twice. Baseball only finished better than 10th once (5th in 2015, 1-2).


So yeah, App has the edge on us in football (thanks Tyson), and Georgia State has the edge on us in basketball, and Louisiana has the edge on us in baseball. Congrats to all involved.

But only GS and Troy have played for or won a title in all 3 major sports since the start of expansion (2012-2013 season).
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We’re a golf school now guys...that and bowling
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All I wanna know is how have App fans managed to make this about us all of a sudden?
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(03-07-2019 12:15 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 12:06 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:57 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  So after spending way more time doing this, i've calculated the average rank of each team over the past 5 years in each major sport. The list is as follows (average rank next to them, rounded to the nearest number unless it's bang on .5). I've only calculated since each team has been in the conference, so Coastal's are particularly skewed. They're listed as ranked, so where people have the same average position, they're still in order of who rounded lower.

Basketball:
GSU - 2
Southern - 3
Louisiana - 4
UTA - 4
ULM - 6
Coastal - 6.5
Texas State - 7
Arkansas State - 8
Little Rock - 8
South - 8
App - 9
Troy - 9

Football:
App - 2
Arkansas State - 3
Troy - 4
Louisiana - 5
Southern - 5
South - 7
ULM - 7
GSU - 8
Coastal - 8.5
Texas State - 9

Baseball:
Coastal - 1
Louisiana - 3
South - 3
Troy - 4
UTA - 4
Southern - 4.5
Texas State - 6
Arkansas State - 7
Little Rock - 7
GSU - 9
ULM - 11
App - 11

So it looks like in consistency across the big 3 it's us and Louisiana.

It depends on your definition of consistency. If you mean consistently in the same place, i don't think this data as presented would get you any closer to that answer. I think the most glaring thing is, those teams that are consistently in first place rarely replicate that success in other sports. Which i assume means that a lot of resources are going into maintaining success in one sport while the rest are left on the backburner so to speak. I think it's obvious that nobody is trying to be bad at a sport (GSU is certainly putting as much effort into football as it is basketball), but that changing the quality of your program isn't something that happens easily or overnight.

EDIT:

So i decided to take the averages of those averages to figure out where everyone ranks overall in those big three sports. It goes as follows (again, rounded, but in order by unrounded);

Louisiana - 3
Southern - 4
UTA - 4.5
Coastal -5
Arkansas State - 6
GSU - 6
South - 6
Troy - 6
ULM - 8
TxSt - 8
App - 8
Little Rock - 9

Again, fits my hypothesis that if you're winning championships, you're only doing it in one of the big three sports. Which similarly means, if you're consistently near the top in all three, you're probably not often winning championships, you're just always close to winning championships. So i guess it depends which you'd prefer. App is clear leader of football but is close to last in everything else. And you're right, Southern is consistently decent at all three, but has won only one championship since joining (correct me if i'm wrong, that's off the top of my head). So it just depends on what you'd prefer i guess.

You're correct we've only won 1, but have been in the title game in the other sports (not counting football this year).

Basketball and Baseball are pretty consistent for us, we've just needed everything to come together at the right time.
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(03-07-2019 01:58 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  This thread is great. Fan of X school goes through this logic before posting:

- Is my team the best at football? Darn I hate App
- no, ok maybe the best at basketball? Da'gum I hate GA St.
- nope, oh damn CCU did win the CWS so I can't claim baseball
- are we dominate in any other individual sport?
- wrong again, what if I cherry pick some sports and claim to be the most consistent non-championship winning program in those

YES!

I thought it might generate some fun dialogue. 07-coffee3
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(03-07-2019 10:34 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Dont the Track and Field championships usually come down to us and uta?

You're right. Our men's teams will likely win another triple crown this year, but a men's championship is only worth 8 Bubas points, versus 12 for your women's champs. And since we do not play football or soccer, USA will continue to out-point us for the all-sports trophy. Anyway, I'd rather be like App and only excel at football.
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Don't we already have this decided? It's called the Bubas cup?

https://sunbeltsports.org/sports/2014/1/...asCup.aspx

We have won the last 4 Bubas Cup, I'm not sure we are going to win it again this year.
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(03-07-2019 04:26 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  All I wanna know is how have App fans managed to make this about us all of a sudden?

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(03-07-2019 03:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We’re a golf school now guys...that and bowling

And we always have rugby as a club sport. Hey, if ULM claims water skiing...
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At one point App had both a good men's and women's club Rugby teams.
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(03-07-2019 04:26 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  All I wanna know is how have App fans managed to make this about us all of a sudden?

It read to me like a GS fan implied that Apps football run shouldn't be considered and then mentioned something about GS success since the hiatus like it's relevant to their SBC era. So he definitely brought GS up himself.
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lol
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What school has won the most Bubas Trophies?
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We are nationally ranked in beach volleyball lol

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