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(08-30-2016 09:30 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  How many of us play women's lacrosse and beach volleyball ?

We have beach volleyball but not women's lacrosse. I really thought there was something on the table for it at one point, but I don't know what came of it.
09-01-2016 10:55 AM
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(08-28-2016 04:31 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
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(08-28-2016 01:34 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(08-28-2016 01:30 PM)coastalalum Wrote:  The only struggle I see for the Chants early in the year might be in men's XC. If you recall, Coastal was going to eliminate the men's track and XC programs just 2 or 3 years ago because of title IX concerns. Fortunately that didn't happen. The track team has remained stout. The XC team has struggled for several years now. I hate to say that as a former Chant XC runner myself.
Welcome to the club. While TXST T&F is in there fighting for both indoor and outdoor titles every year, ours XC is horrible.

I have to ask why? How are the Indoor and Outdoor Track events for TxSt at the lengths of XC? I assume not that great and you are picking up points for shorter distances and the field side of things. But want to ask.
From what I've seen, once you get to the 800 I never count on TXST placing well so that would be a holdover from XC. I know a lot of schools have separate rosters, we have some cross over (3 men, 4 women) but we just don't seem to get the good ones. Maybe it is/was the coaching staff. I don't know, it's never been a strength from the records I've been able to check.
We do have one promising young man I watched this past season, but that was on the track, and we have one young lady coming in that was all everything in XC for her area. Hopefully it gets better.
I will say that our field events fell off this past season also so we're getting a great deal of our points from shorter events, hurdles, relays. Just check the scoring of this last years meets and you'll see that's when we got the vast majority of our points but it also allowed for no margin of error; which our women's teams had and it cost them.

I think that's what makes the UTA-TXST track rivalry kinda interesting. Texas State is much better than UTA in most field events. UTA is better in most distance events. That means it comes down to the sprints. We both are pretty solid there.
09-01-2016 08:19 PM
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(08-30-2016 09:04 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  Never mind

We field 19 sports--
2 beach volleyball and women's lacrosse play in Atlantic Sun conference

Which leaves 17

So as I suspected Men's Indoor Track is what we don't play

How much extra does fielding an indoor track team cost when you are already fielding a team with scholarships (all 12 of them) for cross country and outdoor?

Travel costs
09-01-2016 08:24 PM
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(09-01-2016 08:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(08-30-2016 09:04 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  Never mind

We field 19 sports--
2 beach volleyball and women's lacrosse play in Atlantic Sun conference

Which leaves 17

So as I suspected Men's Indoor Track is what we don't play

How much extra does fielding an indoor track team cost when you are already fielding a team with scholarships (all 12 of them) for cross country and outdoor?

Travel costs


Title IX implications
09-01-2016 09:22 PM
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(08-30-2016 05:26 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  
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(08-30-2016 07:55 AM)GaSouthern Wrote:  GS will never win this sadly.

It certainly helps to offer more sports. You can track the points per sport or even better the unity points per sport. GaSo does a better job at that. Historically your women's sports have not carried their weight overall either.

Did you just call our girls fat? They might not be good at sports but I think they carry their weight just fine.

I think not carrying their weight would imply they are on the skinny side.
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(09-01-2016 09:22 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 08:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  
(08-30-2016 09:04 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  Never mind

We field 19 sports--
2 beach volleyball and women's lacrosse play in Atlantic Sun conference

Which leaves 17

So as I suspected Men's Indoor Track is what we don't play

How much extra does fielding an indoor track team cost when you are already fielding a team with scholarships (all 12 of them) for cross country and outdoor?

Travel costs


Title IX implications

Not really. Guarantee they are giving out the full amount of scholarships allowed for cross country/track & field (12.6). After that, it's cost and that still goes back to miniscule amounts compared to the total budget. It's very rare for a school to have two of those three. It's almost always all or nothing.

Most people meet Title IX by prong 3, showing an improvement towards equality. Dropping indoor doesn't really do that.
09-02-2016 12:56 AM
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