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RE: Division Reform - Who are the Rivals?
(05-09-2015 03:54 PM)Ragu Wrote:  In that case you wouldn't know either. Going to a school for education doesn't mean you know how administration for sports thinks.

We are talking top 3 desired games. No spin on ooc games. The bottom line is gt is not in Unc's top 3. We all know this

I'm going to jump back in this briefly since to me this has not been your point in this thread. Otherwise why argue that the Tobacco Road crowd that runs/ruins the conference (take your pick) would have a say about how these rivalries shake out?

And I would point out that GT fans already think they have higher admissions standards for athletes than does either FSU or Clemson (I have no idea if that is true or not). And they cannot be oblivious to the fact that the mean average ranking in recruits for this decade so far has FSU ranked at #8, Clemson at #17, and GT at #49.

So while none of us know precisely what either the fans or administration would want, it's not hard to exercise critical thinking skills to determine what administration would want. Can any one truly predict what the fans would want?

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Division Reform - Who are the Rivals?
I'm not changing my stance at all. Unc is going to pick their 3 annual games. If you only get 3 protected games they'll get the ones they want.

Gt is not one of their top 3 choices. Nobody can tell me they are ahead of 2 of uva duke wake and nc state
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RE: Division Reform - Who are the Rivals?
(05-08-2015 09:41 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 08:45 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 08:18 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 08:02 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-08-2015 04:45 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Of course the basketball schools get that benefit while the acc screws the schools that carry the conference in the most important sport

You do realize that basketball in the ACC is not played in divisions, right? It would be nice to go to a division-less set-up for football, then no school would have to wait 6 years to play another school not in it's division.

One of the difficulties that most FSU fans have a hard time realizing is that your school is not in the top 3 rivalry picks for Georgia Tech.

I'd say they are 4th or 5th. None of us have a hard time understanding that. Any model out there can have us playing them every other year at worst. And in many 3 rivalry models, UNC, UVA etc have 3 rivals or more before GT too....

If we played GT every other year and stopped playing BC, Wake and Cuse every year, I'd be fine with it.

You might be, but ESPN wouldn't.
As Omni pointed out a week or so ago, that the FSU/Boston College game is extremely popular, especially in the Northeast. If you recall, he pointed out that the game had been broadcast every year except one on ABC as their primary game since BC came into the league. I would imagine that Boston College will be on Florida State's schedule for a long time to come.
And just how would you rate your top 3 rival choices for football or how would you think the divisions should be set up. Keep in mind that Boston College will be in your division.

Omni's point was that FSU/BC was on some national network (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 ) the vast majority of the time. When I asked him what ACC game with FSU involved isnt on those stations the vast majority of the time, I got no answer.

FSU brings the highest ratings by far of any ACC team. It's not an FSU/BC thing. That isnt a rivalry game. Miami/BC makes more sense than FSU/BC and that game is ignored.

FSU vs GT or VT would be a way better matchup than vs BC or Cuse. FSU/UNC would do better than FSU/BC too.

It seems that Clemson has just as good of TV ratings as FSU. In 2013 for instance FSU was the 14th highest ranked team in regard to TV ratings with an average viewership of 3,232,417 (average of 12 games). Clemson was the 17th highest ranked team in regards to TV viewership with an average audience size of 2,970,417 (average of 10 games). BTW Carolina was the 3rd highest rated in the ACC (#28, 2,244,500).
The FSU/Miami game (11/15/13) which had a rating of 8.74 Million viewers, actually pushed the 'noles ahead of Clemson for the year. It also moved Miami into the number 4 spot for the ACC with an average viewership of 2,095,300.


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