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RE: If UAB drops football...
(11-16-2014 01:37 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
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(11-16-2014 11:13 AM)winston70 Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 09:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Dim bulb, S AL, Troy and Louisiana are traditionally stronger than anything CUSA has to offer in baseball. Maybe you happened to notice that Louisiana was ranked #1 in college baseball for a good portion of the season last year. Of course you're a UAB fan, so maybe you didnt notice... drrrrrrr.....

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Rice might not agree

Also, can you tell me the last time Troy beat UAB in baseball?

http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-basebl...sched.html

It seems as though Troy beat UAB in baseball 7-2 in April 2014. So Troy has won the last game between you guys. Any other questions?

Look, I don't hate UAB or wish for their football program to go away, but casting shade on Troy baseball isn't really a good idea.

Yeah, but they haven't beaten UAB since April. 03-lmfao

Isn't Troy or USA getting a new head coach this year?
11-16-2014 03:00 PM
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RE: If UAB drops football...
(11-16-2014 03:00 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 01:37 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 01:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 11:17 AM)Dracorex Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 11:13 AM)winston70 Wrote:  Rice might not agree

Also, can you tell me the last time Troy beat UAB in baseball?

http://www.uabsports.com/sports/m-basebl...sched.html

It seems as though Troy beat UAB in baseball 7-2 in April 2014. So Troy has won the last game between you guys. Any other questions?

Look, I don't hate UAB or wish for their football program to go away, but casting shade on Troy baseball isn't really a good idea.

Yeah, but they haven't beaten UAB since April. 03-lmfao

Isn't Troy or USA getting a new head coach this year?

This is the last year for Troy's coach, and then the assistant will become head coach.
11-16-2014 03:13 PM
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(11-13-2014 11:18 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  From what I've heard, a bunch of Sunbelt schools have inquired about the possibility of this happening. Georgia Southern wants in and they will probably get a look but at the end of the day my money would be on Louisiana and Texas State. Supposedly Akron and Toledo has shown some high interest as well.

Can't say I'm surprised. The MAC's new TV deal with ESPN is a nightmare, but the more traditional MAC schools would rather stick it out in misery together. A handful want out, though, and it's largely the same ones who think the MAC should invest in athletics instead of keeping the status quo.
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(11-13-2014 12:17 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Who got LaTech into CUSA? It was a combination of two people. Neither one could have done it without the other.

1) Whoever it was long ago that chose to go to the WAC. That is what got them out of the herd. It cost a lot, necessitated lots of travel, and was a pain in the ass. But.

2) Wright Waters. SBC commissioner so opposed to conference realignment that he refused to participate and take UTSA and TXST which would have forced LaTech to take the Sun Belt lifeboat at a critical time. Which might even have led to USM flipping to SBC when CUSA got raided.

USM would never go to the SBC. That's laughable. Our fans are already ticked off at our administration that we're still in C-USA while all these other programs we've "grown up with" have moved on and left us behind. To move down to the SBC would be to commit program suicide to our fans. Say what you want about outsider perspective on the two conferences and which is better, but to our fans, Sun Belt is far behind C-USA. And from the tone of the fans who joined C-USA from Sun Belt last round, it seems it's still seen that way.


(11-16-2014 09:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
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(11-15-2014 10:32 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  The Sun Belt is consistently a top conference in the RPI in baseball

http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2014/conferencerpi

I can't say I know much about college baseball as I've only attended like 2 games in my life. I looked up last years RPI and it looks like you're full of crap.

Well you are certainly right about the not knowing much about College baseball part.

Last year was one of the worst years in the history of the conference, and we still were within a couple innings of putting a team in Omaha.

We're normally one of the top 7 leagues in the country.

How many of those top tier teams are now in C-USA? Don't forget we just had a major switch in realignment.

Dim bulb, S AL, Troy and Louisiana are traditionally stronger than anything CUSA has to offer in baseball. Maybe you happened to notice that Louisiana was ranked #1 in college baseball for a good portion of the season last year. Of course you're a UAB fan, so maybe you didnt notice... drrrrrrr.....

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Rice and USM would disagree. I won't try to say that USM has done well the past few years, but traditionally we're a strong program in baseball. And if we don't show it this year, we'll have a new coach next year to show it. ULL has been a great baseball team and I'd love to have them join us. But Rice and USM have been to the College World Series more recently than ULL.
11-18-2014 09:58 AM
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RE: If UAB drops football...
(11-18-2014 09:58 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(11-13-2014 12:17 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Who got LaTech into CUSA? It was a combination of two people. Neither one could have done it without the other.

1) Whoever it was long ago that chose to go to the WAC. That is what got them out of the herd. It cost a lot, necessitated lots of travel, and was a pain in the ass. But.

2) Wright Waters. SBC commissioner so opposed to conference realignment that he refused to participate and take UTSA and TXST which would have forced LaTech to take the Sun Belt lifeboat at a critical time. Which might even have led to USM flipping to SBC when CUSA got raided.

USM would never go to the SBC. That's laughable. Our fans are already ticked off at our administration that we're still in C-USA while all these other programs we've "grown up with" have moved on and left us behind. To move down to the SBC would be to commit program suicide to our fans. Say what you want about outsider perspective on the two conferences and which is better, but to our fans, Sun Belt is far behind C-USA. And from the tone of the fans who joined C-USA from Sun Belt last round, it seems it's still seen that way.


(11-16-2014 09:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(11-15-2014 02:01 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  
(11-15-2014 12:05 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(11-15-2014 12:03 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2014/conferencerpi

I can't say I know much about college baseball as I've only attended like 2 games in my life. I looked up last years RPI and it looks like you're full of crap.

Well you are certainly right about the not knowing much about College baseball part.

Last year was one of the worst years in the history of the conference, and we still were within a couple innings of putting a team in Omaha.

We're normally one of the top 7 leagues in the country.

How many of those top tier teams are now in C-USA? Don't forget we just had a major switch in realignment.

Dim bulb, S AL, Troy and Louisiana are traditionally stronger than anything CUSA has to offer in baseball. Maybe you happened to notice that Louisiana was ranked #1 in college baseball for a good portion of the season last year. Of course you're a UAB fan, so maybe you didnt notice... drrrrrrr.....

Z

Rice and USM would disagree. I won't try to say that USM has done well the past few years, but traditionally we're a strong program in baseball. And if we don't show it this year, we'll have a new coach next year to show it. ULL has been a great baseball team and I'd love to have them join us. But Rice and USM have been to the College World Series more recently than ULL.

UL was ranked #1 in the country in baseball last year and missed the CWS by one game.
11-18-2014 10:09 AM
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RE: If UAB drops football...
(11-18-2014 09:58 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 09:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Dim bulb, S AL, Troy and Louisiana are traditionally stronger than anything CUSA has to offer in baseball. Maybe you happened to notice that Louisiana was ranked #1 in college baseball for a good portion of the season last year. Of course you're a UAB fan, so maybe you didnt notice... drrrrrrr.....

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Rice and USM would disagree. I won't try to say that USM has done well the past few years, but traditionally we're a strong program in baseball. And if we don't show it this year, we'll have a new coach next year to show it. ULL has been a great baseball team and I'd love to have them join us. But Rice and USM have been to the College World Series more recently than ULL.

I instantly thought of Rice when I read that post too. They are legit and they have an impressive history. USM is good as well. USA and ULL have an edge on all-time NCAA Tournaments appearances though:

USA - 25
ULL - 14

Rice - 20
USM - 12

Rice is the most successful of the 4 in advancing in the tournament. But in terms of all-time appearances USA and ULL have an edge.

In combined head-to-head match-ups, USA and ULL are 85-63 against USM and Rice. So in some metrics we are better. I wouldn't lump Troy in there just yet, but they have been consistent too. It would be a hell of a baseball conference if we were all 4 in the same conference!
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RE: If UAB drops football...
(11-18-2014 11:01 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 09:58 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(11-16-2014 09:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Dim bulb, S AL, Troy and Louisiana are traditionally stronger than anything CUSA has to offer in baseball. Maybe you happened to notice that Louisiana was ranked #1 in college baseball for a good portion of the season last year. Of course you're a UAB fan, so maybe you didnt notice... drrrrrrr.....

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Rice and USM would disagree. I won't try to say that USM has done well the past few years, but traditionally we're a strong program in baseball. And if we don't show it this year, we'll have a new coach next year to show it. ULL has been a great baseball team and I'd love to have them join us. But Rice and USM have been to the College World Series more recently than ULL.

I instantly thought of Rice when I read that post too. They are legit and they have an impressive history. USM is good as well. USA and ULL have an edge on all-time NCAA Tournaments appearances though:

USA - 25
ULL - 14

Rice - 20
USM - 12

Rice is the most successful of the 4 in advancing in the tournament. But in terms of all-time appearances USA and ULL have an edge.

In combined head-to-head match-ups, USA and ULL are 85-63 against USM and Rice. So in some metrics we are better. I wouldn't lump Troy in there just yet, but they have been consistent too. It would be a hell of a baseball conference if we were all 4 in the same conference!

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Looks like 2 pretty solid leagues considering every school that fields a team has made the NCAA Tournament at least once.

Total NCAA appearances is 95-82 in favor of C-USA. Total CWS appearances is 8-3 in favor of C-USA, with Rice holding the only National Title.
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A sad statistic for USA fans is that our program holds the NCAA record for being one win away from the CWS without making it. I'm at lunch and don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe it is 7 or 8 times. Several times the other team had to beat us twice to advance and did so. Ugh.
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Are we going to see who is ranked better in badminton next. Baseball, Swimming nor Softball will ever be looked at in conference realignment. It will be:

1) Media Market
2) Football
3) Nothing else really matters

If it did no way would Louisville have gotten into the ACC and well the AAC didn't even take the 2nd into consideration with Tulane.

If UAB is gone then it will be ULL or AState most likely. If its ULL it will give me a good reason to go see a lot of people I haven't seen since the early part of 2006. Although if Akron had more of a fan base I would much prefer to go that way.
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(11-18-2014 01:02 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  A sad statistic for USA fans is that our program holds the NCAA record for being one win away from the CWS without making it. I'm at lunch and don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe it is 7 or 8 times. Several times the other team had to beat us twice to advance and did so. Ugh.

I remember LSU doing that to the Cajuns one year in the red shaft. It was a major bummer.
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(11-18-2014 01:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 01:02 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  A sad statistic for USA fans is that our program holds the NCAA record for being one win away from the CWS without making it. I'm at lunch and don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe it is 7 or 8 times. Several times the other team had to beat us twice to advance and did so. Ugh.

I remember LSU doing that to the Cajuns one year in the red shaft. It was a major bummer.

How USA fares when ONE win away from CWS:
Southern Cal had to beat us twice in 1998.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1997.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1993.
Georgia Southern had to beat us twice in 1990.
Florida State had beat us twice in 1987.
Ole Miss had to beat us twice in 1972.

USA was also one game away against Miami in 1984 (coming from loser's bracket) but lost game 2.
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(11-18-2014 02:16 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 01:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 01:02 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  A sad statistic for USA fans is that our program holds the NCAA record for being one win away from the CWS without making it. I'm at lunch and don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe it is 7 or 8 times. Several times the other team had to beat us twice to advance and did so. Ugh.

I remember LSU doing that to the Cajuns one year in the red shaft. It was a major bummer.

How USA fares when ONE win away from CWS:
Southern Cal had to beat us twice in 1998.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1997.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1993.
Georgia Southern had to beat us twice in 1990.
Florida State had beat us twice in 1987.
Ole Miss had to beat us twice in 1972.

USA was also one game away against Miami in 1984 (coming from loser's bracket) but lost game 2.

And in virtually every one of those games, USA was playing at the other team. USA has never hosted in the NCAA's. Total rip.
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(11-18-2014 02:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 02:16 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 01:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(11-18-2014 01:02 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  A sad statistic for USA fans is that our program holds the NCAA record for being one win away from the CWS without making it. I'm at lunch and don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe it is 7 or 8 times. Several times the other team had to beat us twice to advance and did so. Ugh.

I remember LSU doing that to the Cajuns one year in the red shaft. It was a major bummer.

How USA fares when ONE win away from CWS:
Southern Cal had to beat us twice in 1998.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1997.
LSU had to beat us twice in 1993.
Georgia Southern had to beat us twice in 1990.
Florida State had beat us twice in 1987.
Ole Miss had to beat us twice in 1972.

USA was also one game away against Miami in 1984 (coming from loser's bracket) but lost game 2.

And in virtually every one of those games, USA was playing at the other team. USA has never hosted in the NCAA's. Total rip.

What's further a rip is we were a number one seed several times but not chosen to host. A couple that I remember are:
#1 South Alabama in 2002 - #2 Notre Dame hosted
#1 South Alabama in 2001 - #2 Clemson hosted
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South Alabama, Troy, JSU all subsidizes larger percentages of their athletic program than we do as of last year. South Al subsidized 78.26% of their revenue. JSU subsidized 68.76% of their revenue. Troy subsidized 65.92% of their revenue. UAB subsidized 64.17% of their revenue.
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