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RE: Ideal Conference Draft
(09-25-2014 01:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(09-18-2014 02:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I went by just endowment, and I averaged nearly $4b. But unlike your list ... the schools in mine actually are competitive in sports. If biggest endowment wins ... I'll punt Utah for Harvard and average 7.5b. But it doesn't. So I won't.

Dafuq?

I also posted my school's average standing in the 2014 Director's Cup, which is 32. Can you match? You've got Stanford, so that's a nice head start.

Firstly ... I'm way too lazy. Feel free to find out and post if you're so inclined.

Secondly ... as I stated in the post in question .... I have large issues with both USN&WR and the Director's Cup. USN&WR does not normalize per capita on a **** ton of things, and the reward schools for being very broad in scope regardless of how deep they are in those areas. The Director's Cup is basically how many sports do you care to field regardless of cost. Some of these Olympic sports have so few schools in them you automatically get Director's Cup points for merely existing or being above .500 in them. Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a **** if your schools have a "competitive" rowing league. Or women's rowing. Or women's field hockey. Or men's water polo. Or women's water polo. Or Rifle. Or Skiing. Or Bowling. Or women's ice hockey. Or gymnastics. Or women's gymnastics. Or squash. Or synchronized swimming. And yes, all of those are director's cup sports. And on top of that ... some inexplicably count twice. There's track and field ... and then indoor track and field. And I'm sure none of the people doing endurance track running are also on the cross country teams which also count, amirite?

If you're honest ... in college sports the major sports are football, men's basketball, and then baseball. In that order. The minor sports are women's basketball. Then in no particular order, indoor volleyball, hockey, lacrosse, and softball. After that, you might as well not bother installing stands. So even if your combined average for the Director's Cup was 8 for 16 teams ... I really couldn't possibly care less. You would be swimming in irrelevant fools gold. I'll keep competing for football/basketball/baseball titles ... you keep competing for that coveted squash title huh?
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(09-25-2014 01:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Also, you had ZERO competition out west, while I had 3 or 4 people to contend with.

You were able to recreate the Pac 12 + whatever. How novel and creative. 05-stirthepot


So you're saying I made the intelligent move given how I knew everybody was going to stumble over themselves for the same piece of turf? Thanks.

Just look at these 20+ monstrosities people are creating by merging themselves to try to get something cohesive and semi-relevant.

You know what? I'm actually going to veto these mergers. By having a merger, you're effectively getting two first round picks to my one. Then two second round picks to my one. And so on.

So no -- you can't have your mergers. Veto.
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LOL

I was just curious to see how we compared on that single data point, I never said it was the be-all, end-all.

I also never expected you to go all mega-douche over a fantasy draft, but that's cool.



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RE: Ideal Conference Draft
(09-25-2014 04:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(09-25-2014 01:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Also, you had ZERO competition out west, while I had 3 or 4 people to contend with.

You were able to recreate the Pac 12 + whatever. How novel and creative. 05-stirthepot


So you're saying I made the intelligent move given how I knew everybody was going to stumble over themselves for the same piece of turf? Thanks.

Just look at these 20+ monstrosities people are creating by merging themselves to try to get something cohesive and semi-relevant.

You know what? I'm actually going to veto these mergers. By having a merger, you're effectively getting two first round picks to my one. Then two second round picks to my one. And so on.

So no -- you can't have your mergers. Veto.

No, you are being a big time commissioner. Think Roy Kramer, Jim Delaney and Boss Hogg put together. 07-coffee3

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(09-25-2014 06:15 PM)Kronke Wrote:  LOL

I was just curious to see how we compared on that single data point, I never said it was the be-all, end-all.

I also never expected you to go all mega-douche over a fantasy draft, but that's cool.



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If you're curious ... then do the leg work to pull the data on nearly 100 schools. I'm saying it's a fool's errand because USN&WR, Endowment, and Director's Cup Rank are all terrible metrics.

I also never expected you to go all mega-douche over over bad metrics in a fantasy draft, but that's cool.
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RE: Ideal Conference Draft
So who has what?
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(09-25-2014 09:16 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  So who has what?

HUSKY: Ohio State, Michigan State, Virginia, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa State, UConn, UMass

WEST: Miami, North Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina State, Clemson, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Temple, Appalachian State

GT: USC, Stanford, California, UCLA, Washington, Arizona State, Oregon State, BYU, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii

KRONKE: Michigan, Wisconsin, Duke, Vanderbilt, Minnesota, Indiana, Northwestern, Boston College, Army

MIKE: Louisville, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Old Dominion, Western Kentucky, Liberty, ECU

John & Bizzle merger
Big 18 conference.
East- Rutgers, Syracuse, Penn State, Navy, Maryland, Illinois, Purdue, Notre Dame, Ohio

West- Air Force, Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas State, Iowa, Oregon, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska

Len & Marks merger
Southern Association of Schools (SAS)
EAST- Florida, Florida State, LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Memphis, Ole Miss, Miss State & Tulane

WEST- Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Arizona, Baylor, Arkansas, TCU, Houston, SMU, New Mexico & Rice

After trades & mergers, these are our new conferences.


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(09-25-2014 11:54 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Several cities are fighting over the right to host the inaugural SAS Championship:

Bids coming in from: Phoenix, Arlington, San Antonio, Houston, NOLA, Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando


Rumors are circulating...I heard from the Dude of Hickory Hollow that several schools are being asked to leave...but that contradicts from official SAS press releases that all 22 are all valued assets. Another rumor has several schools are submitting applications.

I've heard from inside sources that was confirmed by THE Dude of Blue Berry Hills that SMU, Rice, Houston & Tulane maybe possibly be replaced by 2 of Texas, Arizona St, Kansas or South Carolina at the end of the season.

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RE: Ideal Conference Draft
After the mergers, I'd have to go with the SAS. It has a couple of nice footprints in each division although 22 schools would be better split into 2 conferences.
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Husky and I have merged. Unfortunately, Army did not make the cut.

I'm still tinkering with it, but I went ahead and divided our divisions. Doesn't make perfect sense, geographically, but I like how the Midwest/B1G schools are together, and the private/basketball schools are together. May have to change a few to strike a more competitive balance, though.

Ohio State
Wisconsin
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Indiana
Northwestern
Iowa State

Duke
UVA
Vanderbilt
Mizzou
Kansas
UConn
Boston College
UMass
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Re: Ideal Conference Draft
(10-04-2014 01:52 PM)green Wrote:  [Image: ncaa-fb-main-map.png]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/...0002&abg=1

Data based on Facebook 'likes' estimates the boundaries of college football fandom.
-- nytimes

FUNCTIONAL FIEFDOM

This post by Green goes to show why the SAS is the best conference here, along with other reasons as well.

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