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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 03:35 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
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(03-11-2013 03:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:07 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  Probably right. I'm an old guy so I don't understand a lot of this stuff. 01-wingedeagle

Join the Younger Kids!

Come on guys! It's a quote from a National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. They're all sitting around the table eating on x-mas eve, Clark (Chevy Chase) looks up and says to the kids that a pilot spotted Santa's sleigh. All the kids get excited. That's when cousin Eddie (Randy Quaid) looks up and says: "You serious Clark?"

Only National Lampoon movie I watched and paid a lot of attention to was Animal House.

I would suggest Christmas Vacation and Family Vacation but you're not missing much with European or Vegas Vacations.

European Vacation is a g#$ d#$d classic.

I agree, Vegas Vacation is hot garbage.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 02:25 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  [quote='WKUApollo' pid='9076801' dateline='1363029191']
[quote='Wild Bill Kelso' pid='9076780' dateline='1363028907']

Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

Yes, but WKU is # 14
ASU and ULL are pusing for #15 and #16

This is why you heard the report of 3 schools not voting on the additions to the SBC.....
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 04:13 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:35 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Join the Younger Kids!

Come on guys! It's a quote from a National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. They're all sitting around the table eating on x-mas eve, Clark (Chevy Chase) looks up and says to the kids that a pilot spotted Santa's sleigh. All the kids get excited. That's when cousin Eddie (Randy Quaid) looks up and says: "You serious Clark?"

Only National Lampoon movie I watched and paid a lot of attention to was Animal House.

I would suggest Christmas Vacation and Family Vacation but you're not missing much with European or Vegas Vacations.

European Vacation is a g#$ d#$d classic.

I agree, Vegas Vacation is hot garbage.

Look kids Big Ben!

[Image: roundabout_vacation1_zps648b55d9.jpg]

I need to watch this again, your right some funny stuff in there but always has been my least favorite of the three original Vacation movies. I think it's the kids.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 04:29 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 04:13 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:35 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:27 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Come on guys! It's a quote from a National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. They're all sitting around the table eating on x-mas eve, Clark (Chevy Chase) looks up and says to the kids that a pilot spotted Santa's sleigh. All the kids get excited. That's when cousin Eddie (Randy Quaid) looks up and says: "You serious Clark?"

Only National Lampoon movie I watched and paid a lot of attention to was Animal House.

I would suggest Christmas Vacation and Family Vacation but you're not missing much with European or Vegas Vacations.

European Vacation is a g#$ d#$d classic.

I agree, Vegas Vacation is hot garbage.

Look kids Big Ben!

[Image: roundabout_vacation1_zps648b55d9.jpg]

I need to watch this again, your right some funny stuff in there but always has been my least favorite of the three original Vacation movies. I think it's the kids.

Apart from all of the great English actors who make cameos, it also has Billy Zabka -- the archvillian of every 80's movie, and he's Audrey's boyfriend Jack.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:07 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:57 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:33 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:21 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  Are you serious, Clark?

Clark?

You really need to keep up with the Internet memes.

Probably right. I'm an old guy so I don't understand a lot of this stuff. 01-wingedeagle

Join the Younger Kids!

My 30 year old son tells me that all the time. Having lived through the Animal House years with all the toga parties on campus and Chevy Chase coming of age on SNL I am very aware of the National Lampoon movies. But that "Internet memes" stuff had me stumped. 03-confused
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 04:21 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:25 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  [quote='WKUApollo' pid='9076801' dateline='1363029191']
[quote='Wild Bill Kelso' pid='9076780' dateline='1363028907']

Hearing from good sources Ark State and ULL are making a play for CUSA.

Yes, but WKU is # 14
ASU and ULL are pusing for #15 and #16

This is why you heard the report of 3 schools not voting on the additions to the SBC.....

The info I received was GSU & App State had the support of everyone, but the room was divided on NMSU & Idaho. The reality is unless you were in the room you don't actually know what was said.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:44 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.

Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Right......because (a) basketball is what is driving expansion and (b) divisions are important in basketball...01-wingedeagle

I didnt say that, but being from a basketball school, NCAA tournament is very successful and you have to be respectable too on the basketball court conf. wise....if not you do lose a lot of credability that can carry over to football...
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-12-2013 08:04 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:44 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.

Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Right......because (a) basketball is what is driving expansion and (b) divisions are important in basketball...01-wingedeagle

I didnt say that, but being from a basketball school, NCAA tournament is very successful and you have to be respectable too on the basketball court conf. wise....if not you do lose a lot of credability that can carry over to football...

If you win your conference, it doesn't matter how "respectable" your conference is. Basketball is not like football in that your destiny is entirely in your hands. Win your games, and you get to the top.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-12-2013 08:10 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 08:04 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:44 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.

Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Right......because (a) basketball is what is driving expansion and (b) divisions are important in basketball...01-wingedeagle

I didnt say that, but being from a basketball school, NCAA tournament is very successful and you have to be respectable too on the basketball court conf. wise....if not you do lose a lot of credability that can carry over to football...

If you win your conference, it doesn't matter how "respectable" your conference is. Basketball is not like football in that your destiny is entirely in your hands. Win your games, and you get to the top.

You really are dense.

With basketball and the field of 68, it's more than just the automatic bid at stake. A conference would be wise to raise its RPI in order to draw an at large bid.

MT should not be on the outside looking in, but that has a very real shot of happening now because the didn't grab the automatic bid.

So in your world, where it's every team for itself, your reward for winning the tournament is a "first round" game or a 16 seed.

Well, I want better for the confernece.

This conference used to routinely draw the 12 seed, occasionally creeping into an 8-9. Since that point, it's been a slow, steady decline where even a 25 win season is rewarded with a 15 seed.

You do realize that no 16 seed has ever upset a 1?
You do also realize that a 12 seed pulls the upset over the 5 more than any other upset?

Maybe you're happy with the one bid league.

But I sure and the hell am not happy seeing our teams get "rewarded" with no win situations.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-12-2013 09:21 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 08:10 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 08:04 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Right......because (a) basketball is what is driving expansion and (b) divisions are important in basketball...01-wingedeagle

I didnt say that, but being from a basketball school, NCAA tournament is very successful and you have to be respectable too on the basketball court conf. wise....if not you do lose a lot of credability that can carry over to football...

If you win your conference, it doesn't matter how "respectable" your conference is. Basketball is not like football in that your destiny is entirely in your hands. Win your games, and you get to the top.

You really are dense.

With basketball and the field of 68, it's more than just the automatic bid at stake. A conference would be wise to raise its RPI in order to draw an at large bid.

MT should not be on the outside looking in, but that has a very real shot of happening now because the didn't grab the automatic bid.

So in your world, where it's every team for itself, your reward for winning the tournament is a "first round" game or a 16 seed.

Well, I want better for the confernece.

This conference used to routinely draw the 12 seed, occasionally creeping into an 8-9. Since that point, it's been a slow, steady decline where even a 25 win season is rewarded with a 15 seed.

You do realize that no 16 seed has ever upset a 1?
You do also realize that a 12 seed pulls the upset over the 5 more than any other upset?

Maybe you're happy with the one bid league.

But I sure and the hell am not happy seeing our teams get "rewarded" with no win situations.

Dense huh? Do you actually think that there is any way in hell that the Sun Belt is not going to be a one-bid league, regardless of who we invite? Teams may get better over time, but for right now there is no "good" option for basketball.

You sir, are delusional if you think that any expansion scenario will help the basketball reputation of this conference - it simply isn't going to happen. Accordingly, as a "basketball" school, the only thing you should be focused on is winning the auto-bid.
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Re: RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-12-2013 09:30 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 09:21 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 08:10 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  
(03-12-2013 08:04 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 03:08 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Right......because (a) basketball is what is driving expansion and (b) divisions are important in basketball...01-wingedeagle

I didnt say that, but being from a basketball school, NCAA tournament is very successful and you have to be respectable too on the basketball court conf. wise....if not you do lose a lot of credability that can carry over to football...

If you win your conference, it doesn't matter how "respectable" your conference is. Basketball is not like football in that your destiny is entirely in your hands. Win your games, and you get to the top.

You really are dense.

With basketball and the field of 68, it's more than just the automatic bid at stake. A conference would be wise to raise its RPI in order to draw an at large bid.

MT should not be on the outside looking in, but that has a very real shot of happening now because the didn't grab the automatic bid.

So in your world, where it's every team for itself, your reward for winning the tournament is a "first round" game or a 16 seed.

Well, I want better for the confernece.

This conference used to routinely draw the 12 seed, occasionally creeping into an 8-9. Since that point, it's been a slow, steady decline where even a 25 win season is rewarded with a 15 seed.

You do realize that no 16 seed has ever upset a 1?
You do also realize that a 12 seed pulls the upset over the 5 more than any other upset?

Maybe you're happy with the one bid league.

But I sure and the hell am not happy seeing our teams get "rewarded" with no win situations.

Dense huh? Do you actually think that there is any way in hell that the Sun Belt is not going to be a one-bid league, regardless of who we invite? Teams may get better over time, but for right now there is no "good" option for basketball.

You sir, are delusional if you think that any expansion scenario will help the basketball reputation of this conference - it simply isn't going to happen. Accordingly, as a "basketball" school, the only thing you should be focused on is winning the auto-bid.

Expansion won't help. The entire conference has to schedule tougher and then win the games. No easy road.
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RE: Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
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(03-11-2013 02:32 PM)Cherryrun Wrote:  WKU ain't going anywhere. The longer the silence, the better chance we stay in the Belt. No matter. The Belt will regroup and rebuild. I like the potential of Texas St., App St., Georgia St. and Georgia Southern. The Belt has been reorganizing since we joined decades ago. I think South Alabama and WKu are the last remaining Belt teams. The new additions will be good over time and then they will move on. Such is the circle of life in the Belt. Meanwhile, WKU will continue to make the NCAA tourney 5-6 out of 10 years and football will be respectable. Good luck to all departing schools and welcome to the newbies! WKU will be your guide through the stepping stone process.

IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.

Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Remove Liberty. That puts us at 13 basketball and 11 football.

I'd say remove Liberty and Georgia Southern. Put USA back in the East. Add NMSU in the West. WKU, NMSU, USA, Louisiana-Lafayette, UTA and ASU... We could work with that for basketball. Others would have to make an effort to improve.
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Hot Springs Sun Belt membership discussion
(03-12-2013 10:17 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:44 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  
(03-11-2013 02:32 PM)Cherryrun Wrote:  WKU ain't going anywhere. The longer the silence, the better chance we stay in the Belt. No matter. The Belt will regroup and rebuild. I like the potential of Texas St., App St., Georgia St. and Georgia Southern. The Belt has been reorganizing since we joined decades ago. I think South Alabama and WKu are the last remaining Belt teams. The new additions will be good over time and then they will move on. Such is the circle of life in the Belt. Meanwhile, WKU will continue to make the NCAA tourney 5-6 out of 10 years and football will be respectable. Good luck to all departing schools and welcome to the newbies! WKU will be your guide through the stepping stone process.

IF the Sun Belt brought in JMU and Liberty (oops there's that word again!), App State & Ga Southern and combined them with Ga State, WKU & Troy it would make for a nice division.

Not for basketball..03-puke03-puke

Remove Liberty. That puts us at 13 basketball and 11 football.

I'd say remove Liberty and Georgia Southern. Put USA back in the East. Add NMSU in the West. WKU, NMSU, USA, Louisiana-Lafayette, UTA and ASU... We could work with that for basketball. Others would have to make an effort to improve.

WKU will be gone soon.
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What a nightmare.
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Did we ever figure out who can vote?
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