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We can learn from Indiana State University
The same program a couple years ago we had inconsequential home and homes with is now a PLAYA!

Has beaten The U (Miami), Ole Miss, UNI twice, Creighton, Wichita State (on the road) and lost in competitively played games to ranked UNMexico and SDSU away from Terry Hoot.

Their similar in overall record (15-8) one game out of the lead behind Creighton, tied with Wichita State.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...-sycamores

Lesson: Schedule up and be prepared to win (mentally). Then it is just a matter of execution.

Lesson: Look at how Jake Kitchell, former WMU target, only elevated after Jordan Threloff went SW blows! In fact both are not playing much. Kitchell outplayed by teammates irrespective to class. He is a 4th yr. junior.

Hawk can't settle or you have a bunch of JK's. He's not a factor there and would be here. Recruit to beat the big boys and don't settle.

ISU, currently constituted would get into the field as an at large unless they lay an egg the remainder of the regular season or blow it in their first MVC tourney game.

Their RPI is solid, so is their record all a result of their scheduling and being prepared to win. It helps that the MVC as a whole boosts their RPI or at least doesnt drag it down like the MAC does.

Lesson: Wait on the MAC's lower tier (85%) of the league to get better and stop the drag and you'll be an older man than Broncojohnny.
Take the reins into your own hand and shape your own future.
- recruit up and develop depth
- sched up to shape your own future and lessen the drag of the MAC
- Ask Margie where your balls are
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
(02-09-2013 12:41 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  The same program a couple years ago we had inconsequential home and homes with is now a PLAYA!

Has beaten The U (Miami), Ole Miss, UNI twice, Creighton, Wichita State (on the road) and lost in competitively played games to ranked UNMexico and SDSU away from Terry Hoot.

Their similar in overall record (15-8) one game out of the lead behind Creighton, tied with Wichita State.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...-sycamores

Lesson: Schedule up and be prepared to win (mentally). Then it is just a matter of execution.

Lesson: Look at how Jake Kitchell, former WMU target, only elevated after Jordan Threloff went SW blows! In fact both are not playing much. Kitchell outplayed by teammates irrespective to class. He is a 4th yr. junior.

Hawk can't settle or you have a bunch of JK's. He's not a factor there and would be here. Recruit to beat the big boys and don't settle.

ISU, currently constituted would get into the field as an at large unless they lay an egg the remainder of the regular season or blow it in their first MVC tourney game.

Their RPI is solid, so is their record all a result of their scheduling and being prepared to win. It helps that the MVC as a whole boosts their RPI or at least doesnt drag it down like the MAC does.

Lesson: Wait on the MAC's lower tier (85%) of the league to get better and stop the drag and you'll be an older man than Broncojohnny.
Take the reins into your own hand and shape your own future.
- recruit up and develop depth
- sched up to shape your own future and lessen the drag of the MAC
- Ask Margie where your balls are

You guys tried scheduling up last year.
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
IMO this years schedule was set with eight frosh in mind.
Are you suggesting another brutal non-conf schedule like last year?
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
(02-09-2013 12:55 PM)okgc Wrote:  IMO this years schedule was set with eight frosh in mind.
Are you suggesting another brutal non-conf schedule like last year?

I agree with your opinion.

Next year and years hence, how else do you propose that WMU position itself to dance?
02-09-2013 05:19 PM
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
(02-09-2013 12:47 PM)arrows80 Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 12:41 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  The same program a couple years ago we had inconsequential home and homes with is now a PLAYA!

Has beaten The U (Miami), Ole Miss, UNI twice, Creighton, Wichita State (on the road) and lost in competitively played games to ranked UNMexico and SDSU away from Terry Hoot.

Their similar in overall record (15-8) one game out of the lead behind Creighton, tied with Wichita State.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...-sycamores

Lesson: Schedule up and be prepared to win (mentally). Then it is just a matter of execution.

Lesson: Look at how Jake Kitchell, former WMU target, only elevated after Jordan Threloff went SW blows! In fact both are not playing much. Kitchell outplayed by teammates irrespective to class. He is a 4th yr. junior.

Hawk can't settle or you have a bunch of JK's. He's not a factor there and would be here. Recruit to beat the big boys and don't settle.

ISU, currently constituted would get into the field as an at large unless they lay an egg the remainder of the regular season or blow it in their first MVC tourney game.

Their RPI is solid, so is their record all a result of their scheduling and being prepared to win. It helps that the MVC as a whole boosts their RPI or at least doesnt drag it down like the MAC does.

Lesson: Wait on the MAC's lower tier (85%) of the league to get better and stop the drag and you'll be an older man than Broncojohnny.
Take the reins into your own hand and shape your own future.
- recruit up and develop depth
- sched up to shape your own future and lessen the drag of the MAC
- Ask Margie where your balls are

You guys tried scheduling up last year.

You incorrect sir. WMU DID schedule up. They didnt play to their uninjured or non-malovent talent level.

But if you had depth, that as a coach you trusted, because it was intentional, you wouldnt have to rely on a one armed point guard, a one legged wing and one track mind post player.

What is your next question?
02-09-2013 05:23 PM
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
(02-09-2013 05:19 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  [quote='okgc' pid='8944624' dateline='1360432520']


Next year and years hence, how else do you propose that WMU position itself to dance?

The same way you did the last two years - last year you had an older team that your coach thought would be good, and he was mistaken. You scheduled up and took some beatings.

This year you've got a younger team, and you scheduled as such. You got it right this year, as you've lost to pretty much all of the good teams you've played.

Next year your schedule will probably firm up a bit again.
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RE: We can learn from Indiana State University
(02-09-2013 05:25 PM)arrows80 Wrote:  
(02-09-2013 05:19 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  [quote='okgc' pid='8944624' dateline='1360432520']


Next year and years hence, how else do you propose that WMU position itself to dance?

The same way you did the last two years - last year you had an older team that your coach thought would be good, and he was mistaken. You scheduled up and took some beatings.

This year you've got a younger team, and you scheduled as such. You got it right this year, as you've lost to pretty much all of the good teams you've played.

Next year your schedule will probably firm up a bit again.

That is my point.

This years team, regardless of their record must win the MACC to get a 14th seed at the dance.

Last years team, minus the aforementioned maladies, should have had an outside shot at an at large.

This years team, playing at the rising level they currently are playing could be in the conversation. But unless they win the MACC it's a non-starter.

The MAC has no RPI giddy up.
You still have to compete in the MAC.
So you have to recruit and schedule up if you want to improve your odds to dance.
Other wise your depending on luck not executing a plan.
02-09-2013 05:40 PM
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