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RE: NMSU position on Sun Belt and football
The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.
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(12-28-2012 04:44 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
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(12-28-2012 01:33 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  NMSU football would struggle to win several FCS leagues.

given their performance and attendance the past decade, i would say both nmsu and idaho are two programs that need to realize they should be among the fcs ranks. replace those two with two high end fcs programs and the fbs level will actually gain more respectability.
I agree. People should get beyond labels and temporary feelings and think long term. The first time that a team like App. St., Ga. So. or JMU upsets a "name" team or makes a bowl appearance it won't matter one single bit that they were FCS in 2013. People will see a program filling the stands and winning and that erases any negatives very quickly.

People forget how quickly Troy and to some extent WKU moved up recently and were competing at the top of the conference and beating BCS programs/
to be completely honest, jmu and app state have ALREADY done both of those things. beat a ranked bcs program and get it all over sportscenter and fill the stands.

while they were fcs...
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RE: NMSU position on Sun Belt and football
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:27 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 01:42 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:23 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  So we may invite a program whose AD does not believe his football program can either win...or make money. Smart way to re-build a league and keep it moving up in the power rankings don't you think?

Smarter than inviting moveups.

That is hilarious. Why did Conference USA take UTSA instead of NMSU? I guess it is because they are dumb.

It is smarter to invite a moribund FBS school that nobody else wants, who's AD has no confidence in it.........over a school that packs its stadium for every game and has a history of winning at the FCS level.

Stoopid.

No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

The remaining Sun Belt schools have to continue to build the conference. There is no choice but to try to make it better because you may be the ones left in it.

That said...NMSU has an FBS football history that you can look at. It is not pretty. Taking NMSU you know exactly what you are going to be getting.

App State and Georgia Southern have much better fan support and have a clean slate in FBS. They could easily become competitive just as quickly as Troy or WKU did.

Behind Door #1 you have a live goat....you don't know what is behind Door #2. I'll take Door #2 thanks.
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(12-28-2012 05:17 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 03:26 PM)asumike83 Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

Do you honestly think anyone outside the fans/alumni care about that 1-11 WAC team down the road just because they are FBS? If that were the case, they'd get more than 14K per home game.

With the exception of the big boys, very few people care about any football program they have no connection to, whether FCS or FBS. We all thrive on alumni support, not casual fans.

AMEN! JMU is 98% supported by persons directly associated with the school. No one outside of a BCS program has bandwagon support. No one.

Do really think the student athlete in Miss. or Louisiana cares about your 98% support by persons directly associated with the school? Student athletes care about who is on your schedule, athletic facilities and how many times you play on television. If you are talking about the James Madison Basketball program, then I'm sure it wouldn't matter. But when it comes to your football program, it doesn't help any Sun Belt program's recruiting to have you guys on their schedule. That is reality my friend.

Any program that is from a FBS conference and is listed on other FBS schedules is a recognizable program.
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(12-28-2012 05:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:27 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 01:42 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:23 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  So we may invite a program whose AD does not believe his football program can either win...or make money. Smart way to re-build a league and keep it moving up in the power rankings don't you think?

Smarter than inviting moveups.

That is hilarious. Why did Conference USA take UTSA instead of NMSU? I guess it is because they are dumb.

It is smarter to invite a moribund FBS school that nobody else wants, who's AD has no confidence in it.........over a school that packs its stadium for every game and has a history of winning at the FCS level.

Stoopid.

No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

The remaining Sun Belt schools have to continue to build the conference. There is no choice but to try to make it better because you may be the ones left in it.

The Sun Belt has no choice at this time but take FCS programs.

That said...NMSU has an FBS football history that you can look at. It is not pretty. Taking NMSU you know exactly what you are going to be getting.

Success or not, they have a recognizable name to student athletes and that is who your coaching staff is concerned about in recruiting.

App State and Georgia Southern have much better fan support and have a clean slate in FBS. They could easily become competitive just as quickly as Troy or WKU did.

No one has debated their fan support nor their accomplishments at the FCS level. They have no clean slate because they are non existent in the FBS Division.

Behind Door #1 you have a live goat....you don't know what is behind Door #2. I'll take Door #2 thanks.

Yep and that is why you program is seeking to get out of the SBC because they agree with you? Now, go and hand your new staff a conference schedule with GSU, USA, App. State and Georgia Southern on it and ask them to go out and recruit against your former peers in CUSA and see how well that goes over. Good luck with that!
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RE: NMSU position on Sun Belt and football
(12-28-2012 05:34 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:27 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 01:42 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  Smarter than inviting moveups.

That is hilarious. Why did Conference USA take UTSA instead of NMSU? I guess it is because they are dumb.

It is smarter to invite a moribund FBS school that nobody else wants, who's AD has no confidence in it.........over a school that packs its stadium for every game and has a history of winning at the FCS level.

Stoopid.

No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

The remaining Sun Belt schools have to continue to build the conference. There is no choice but to try to make it better because you may be the ones left in it.

The Sun Belt has no choice at this time but take FCS programs.

That said...NMSU has an FBS football history that you can look at. It is not pretty. Taking NMSU you know exactly what you are going to be getting.

Success or not, they have a recognizable name to student athletes and that is who your coaching staff is concerned about in recruiting.

App State and Georgia Southern have much better fan support and have a clean slate in FBS. They could easily become competitive just as quickly as Troy or WKU did.

No one has debated their fan support nor their accomplishments at the FCS level. They have no clean slate because they are non existent in the FBS Division.

Behind Door #1 you have a live goat....you don't know what is behind Door #2. I'll take Door #2 thanks.

Yep and that is why you program is seeking to get out of the SBC because they agree with you? Now, go and hand your new staff a conference schedule with GSU, USA, App. State and Georgia Southern on it and ask them to go out and recruit against your former peers in CUSA and see how well that goes over. Good luck with that!

I'm sure the mighty name of NMSU is going to make all the difference.

When those recruits hear that they will get to play NMSU well, My God, they'll be falling all over themselves to get into the SBC.

If we get App State instead...it will be almost impossible to recruit because all the good players are going to be scrambling to play against UNC-Charlotte. I mean really...it's every players dream to play against UNC-Charlotte if they can't play against NMSU.

Unless we can offer them a trip to Las Cruces we might as well fold up the league.
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(12-28-2012 05:40 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:34 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:27 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  That is hilarious. Why did Conference USA take UTSA instead of NMSU? I guess it is because they are dumb.

It is smarter to invite a moribund FBS school that nobody else wants, who's AD has no confidence in it.........over a school that packs its stadium for every game and has a history of winning at the FCS level.

Stoopid.

No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

The remaining Sun Belt schools have to continue to build the conference. There is no choice but to try to make it better because you may be the ones left in it.

The Sun Belt has no choice at this time but take FCS programs.

That said...NMSU has an FBS football history that you can look at. It is not pretty. Taking NMSU you know exactly what you are going to be getting.

Success or not, they have a recognizable name to student athletes and that is who your coaching staff is concerned about in recruiting.

App State and Georgia Southern have much better fan support and have a clean slate in FBS. They could easily become competitive just as quickly as Troy or WKU did.

No one has debated their fan support nor their accomplishments at the FCS level. They have no clean slate because they are non existent in the FBS Division.

Behind Door #1 you have a live goat....you don't know what is behind Door #2. I'll take Door #2 thanks.

Yep and that is why you program is seeking to get out of the SBC because they agree with you? Now, go and hand your new staff a conference schedule with GSU, USA, App. State and Georgia Southern on it and ask them to go out and recruit against your former peers in CUSA and see how well that goes over. Good luck with that!

I'm sure the mighty name of NMSU is going to make all the difference.

When those recruits hear that they will get to play NMSU well, My God, they'll be falling all over themselves to get into the SBC.

If we get App State instead...it will be almost impossible to recruit because all the good players are going to be scrambling to play against UNC-Charlotte. I mean really...it's every players dream to play against UNC-Charlotte if they can't play against NMSU.

Unless we can offer them a trip to Las Cruces we might as well fold up the league.

Okay, clearly you don't get out to HS games and talk with parents and potential student athletes. That much is clear.
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(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.
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(12-28-2012 05:53 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:40 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:34 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 02:44 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  No, stupid would be not accepting one of the few FBS programs available at this time. Sorry, very few care about winning FCS programs beyond then the fans that support those schools. If that's your vision of the next SBC, then you are welcome to it. Small time vision!

The remaining Sun Belt schools have to continue to build the conference. There is no choice but to try to make it better because you may be the ones left in it.

The Sun Belt has no choice at this time but take FCS programs.

That said...NMSU has an FBS football history that you can look at. It is not pretty. Taking NMSU you know exactly what you are going to be getting.

Success or not, they have a recognizable name to student athletes and that is who your coaching staff is concerned about in recruiting.

App State and Georgia Southern have much better fan support and have a clean slate in FBS. They could easily become competitive just as quickly as Troy or WKU did.

No one has debated their fan support nor their accomplishments at the FCS level. They have no clean slate because they are non existent in the FBS Division.

Behind Door #1 you have a live goat....you don't know what is behind Door #2. I'll take Door #2 thanks.

Yep and that is why you program is seeking to get out of the SBC because they agree with you? Now, go and hand your new staff a conference schedule with GSU, USA, App. State and Georgia Southern on it and ask them to go out and recruit against your former peers in CUSA and see how well that goes over. Good luck with that!

I'm sure the mighty name of NMSU is going to make all the difference.

When those recruits hear that they will get to play NMSU well, My God, they'll be falling all over themselves to get into the SBC.

If we get App State instead...it will be almost impossible to recruit because all the good players are going to be scrambling to play against UNC-Charlotte. I mean really...it's every players dream to play against UNC-Charlotte if they can't play against NMSU.

Unless we can offer them a trip to Las Cruces we might as well fold up the league.

Okay, clearly you don't get out to HS games and talk with parents and potential student athletes. That much is clear.

Only the ones sporting "I dream of playing against NMSU someday" t-shirts.
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(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao
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(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Actually, it is. Pick another school.
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(12-28-2012 06:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao

I doubt if any college ranking organization would rank usl ahead of utsa in terms of academic achievement, investment in campus facilities or standing of prominent degree programs, but it is true that the perception of a state flagship school like U of La. or NMSU or stAte would be more "big time" than a school named U-..... or N.W. S.E. anything and perception drives the big tv dollars..the fact that utsa can get on the phone and schedule a home game with an Arizona state or Baylor or UVa. and Ulaf cant is the reason they had value to c-usa...
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(12-28-2012 06:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao

My guess is that neither one of us have any decision to make on that account. More than likely Texas State (FCS move-up) and Western Kentucky (FCS move-up) will be the ones making those choices.

You and I should probably get comfortable with that sort of idea.
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(12-28-2012 06:16 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Actually, it is. Pick another school.

Your wasting your time VO! His own administration doesn't share his view on the Sun Belt or they wouldn't be trying to raise the funds to get out. The Sun Belt suffers an uphill battle today, just imagine what the outside perception will be once MTU and FAU exit. No one knows for sure what the future will hold, but short term this conference will be the worst once again in NCAA Football.
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(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.

The only land grant colleges in and around you that might consider affiliating with you are Prairie View, Southern, Ark-Pine Bluff and Alcorn.
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(12-28-2012 06:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao

My guess is that neither one of us have any decision to make on that account. More than likely Texas State (FCS move-up) and Western Kentucky (FCS move-up) will be the ones making those choices.

You and I should probably get comfortable with that sort of idea.

If my administration follows that business plan they can expect no money from me once Hudspeth exits the program. Their lack of vision is holding the program back at a time when the football program has had its best back-to-back seasons in its history.
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(12-28-2012 06:16 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Actually, it is. Pick another school.

Has same academic ranking as Georgia State according to US News.
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(12-28-2012 06:16 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Actually, it is. Pick another school.

I don't think I will.

It was established in 1969 and has an endowment of 81 million dollars. It's ranked between 205-270 by US News and World Report in 2011.

First Year Student Retention (full-time students): 62%
Transfer Out Rate: 32%
4-Year Graduation Rate: 8%
6-Year Graduation Rate: 27%

I'm sure UTSA is a fine institution and I'm sure it is striving to improve as are we all. But the fact is that it looks greener to you because it is on the other side of some fence.

It is ironic that you are defending an FCS move-up after trashing them earlier.
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(12-28-2012 06:31 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao

My guess is that neither one of us have any decision to make on that account. More than likely Texas State (FCS move-up) and Western Kentucky (FCS move-up) will be the ones making those choices.

You and I should probably get comfortable with that sort of idea.

If my administration follows that business plan they can expect no money from me once Hudspeth exits the program. Their lack of vision is holding the program back at a time when the football program has had its best back-to-back seasons in its history.

There is no business plan to follow...or not follow. CUSA will either invite you....or it will not. Your administration cannot just choose to push some Easy Button to catapult you into the orgiastic paradise that is CUSA.

This is a situation where Tulane was invited to the Big East. Don't expect it to make any sense whatsoever.

You get invited...you don't get invited. There's your frickin business plan.
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(12-28-2012 06:22 PM)runamuck Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:05 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 06:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(12-28-2012 05:23 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  The best option for UL is to get out of the dumpster fire the Sun Belt is becoming. If we can manage that, I don't care what the rest of you do. If we stay, I would much rather be associated with a state Land Grant University with very good academics and an outstanding research budget than some random former junior colleges with no academic standing.


I can see your point, CUSA is like the Ivy League of the South. The storied academic history of UTSA is known world-wide.

Again, is that why your administration is so fired up about remaining in the SBC? I'm sure they are happy you have no say in that final decision.03-lmfao

I doubt if any college ranking organization would rank usl ahead of utsa in terms of academic achievement, investment in campus facilities or standing of prominent degree programs, but it is true that the perception of a state flagship school like U of La. or NMSU or stAte would be more "big time" than a school named U-..... or N.W. S.E. anything and perception drives the big tv dollars..the fact that utsa can get on the phone and schedule a home game with an Arizona state or Baylor or UVa. and Ulaf cant is the reason they had value to c-usa...

Who is USL moron? UL is two years away from becoming a Tier I Institution. And no one is arguing about markets, but simply perception. UL had no value to CUSA because they failed to sell themselves and commit to the facility and budget improvements. And what market does Louisiana Tech bring? Don't tell me Shreveport. Thanks for playing UTA fan!05-nono
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