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RE: Milwaukee vs. Detroit
(07-25-2010 09:41 PM)GRPunk Wrote:  Dip, sometimes it's better to realize you have no idea what you're talking about and cut your losses.

So you're saying Detroit is a kick azz town? Slow down on that rot gut you've been drinking.

If Detroit didn't have 3 major league sports franchises there'd be tumble weeds blocking the intersections.

Name one major city on this list that has a less appealing downtown than Detroit?

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(07-25-2010 10:18 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  
Quote:Dip is speaking about something that he's probably had four or five direct experiences in his small town life, nothing new here.

The last 4 years with my company we went through a merger. Our main office was in.....................DETROIT.

My son lives in................St. Clair Shores

My best friend lives in....................Commerce Township.

As much as I hate Detroit, I'm there a whole lot more than you are.

St. Clair Shores and Commerce aren't Detroit and what business merger are you talking about, I thought you were a teacher.

As for your list, I haven't been to half the cities you've listed, so I have no reference to compare.

I'm simply saying there's a hell of a lot more to do in the D (regardless of age) than you claimed in your first post. But as any thread goes when you look like you aren't going to win, you start to deflect and yell louder so your point is heard.
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Now you see why Daly keeps getting reelected in Chicago, sure he is corrupt, but the city is the Midwest's New York City. Indianapolis and Columbus are very underrated (and yes, I'm aware Indianapolis is in Indiana). Cincy isn't so great which is surprising with all the Fortune 500's they've got.

Downtown Detroit is much better than what it was ten years ago, though many of the residential neighborhoods continue their long decline. Their is a symphony and opera downtown if you're into that kind of thing, also the Fox and of course casinos and baseball, hockey and football. Now if only they would tear down that stupid train station, letting that thing fall into disrepair was a shame, but letting it stand is worse.
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Quote:St. Clair Shores and Commerce aren't Detroit and what business merger are you talking about, I thought you were a teacher.

I began teaching at 37.

Quote:As for your list, I haven't been to half the cities you've listed, so I have no reference to compare.
I've been to every city on the list with an asterisk by it, and lived for a short time in Houston. Detroit is far and away the worst downtown in America among major cities, and it's not even close.
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You don't have a clue about what you speak, take his advice and cut your losses "Mr. Worldly Man" (i.e "Mr. Hooterville"). Pffffft.
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(07-25-2010 08:35 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  Yeah, there's a corridor in the Detroit that's about the size of downtown Gobles, that is vibrant and reasonably safe. Downtown Windsor is more vibrant than downtown Detroit, with a tenth of the population no less.

You ARE CLUELESS. Shut the hell up and chase your man child heros on facebook and the rest of the web, and report them on your web site, that's your area of "expertise".
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^ Mr. Bitterman, totally losing it.

Still waiting for an answer to this question.............
Quote:Name one major city on this list that has a less appealing downtown than Detroit?

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That's a bs question, and you know what? Many of those aren't "major" cities by any metric. You're reaching and trying to shade your argument.

You are a hick from hicksville who should be worrying about what 4H pig wins the fair next week, not about comparing Miwaukeee to Detroit (when it's closer to being compared to GR). Not only that, you're segmenting the city from the Metro area in which it resides.

Sam Drucker and Oliver are more qualified to talk about urban issues than your hayseed self. Hee Haw!!
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(07-25-2010 10:18 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  
Quote:Dip is speaking about something that he's probably had four or five direct experiences in his small town life, nothing new here.

The last 4 years with my company we went through a merger. Our main office was in.....................DETROIT.

My son lives in................St. Clair Shores

My best friend lives in....................Commerce Township.

As much as I hate Detroit, I'm there a whole lot more than you are.

You prolly don't slow down less that 55 while driving through to see your .....son......best friend. BS time is over, you're clueless. I worked downtown across from what was then the New Center for years, I go downtown each time I get back which is more than once per year, it's like every other city that hasn't aged well but to say it's devoid of any entertainment and culture is ignorant.
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Quote:You prolly don't slow down less that 55 while driving through to see your .....son.

Sure I do. Had lunch at Hockey Town with my niece...............The lunch time crowd was 50% full. Probably should have gone to one of those Greek hotdog joints where they slather the dog in a bucket of chili sauce, hand you a fork, and expect you to eat it. WTF were they thinking? Worst dogs in America.

I am completely amazed at how Detroit masks hundreds of boarded up store fronts for the Christmas parade.
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Yeah, you're a great expert. You've been six/seven times in your life and you wax poetic from your amazing relevant background of.........Schoolcraft.
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I can't believe I didn't open this thread till now. I thought it was about some Tigers vs. Brewers game or something. HA I love Dip and DB fights.
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You lost any credability when you dissed the Coney Dog, but here we go...

NYC- What city can complete with NYC? None, but there are still people that live there that don't like it, bfd.
Boston- never been
Philly- Airport sucked
Houston- never been
Minneapolis- Seemed like an o.k. place, probably on par with Det.
Chicago- Fun town. Expensive though. They have Manhattan prices without, oh being Manhattan. Last time I went it was a pain in the azz because they had Michigan closed at the river to do a movie shoot. Had to walk about 4 blocks out of the way to get around it.
Phoenix- never been
Seattle- never been, but sounds like a cool place
LA- never been
San Fran- never been
Portland- never been
Milwaukee- cool town. Been to Summer Fest, Italian Fest, and German Fest. Good nightlife, but the ballpark is a little detatched from the downtown area (kind of like old Tiger Stadium). Smaller than Detroit, but they do well with what they have.
St. Louis- Nice town. Again, I've had as much, and more fun in Detroit.
Nashville- never been
Memphis- never been
Baltimore- It' been a while since I've visited. Can't speak for nightlife, but overall seemed like a fun place.
Indy- never been
Cleveland- Decent place. My experience has been similar to Detroit.
San Diego- never been
Vegas- Not many towns like Vegas. Like NYC, you can't really compare the others to Vegas.
Denver- Nice town. Pretty similar to Detroit nightlife. If you know what you want to do, you can find it.
Cinci- only been to the airport. Good midwestern food.
Columbus- Never been, but I've heard a lot of bad about it.
Miami- never been
Atlanta- never been
Buffalo- never been
New Orleans- never been
Dallas- never been
San Antonio- never been
Toronto- fun town. Bigger than Detroit. Think of it as a mini-NYC or Chicago.
Kansas City- Didn't spend enough time there to judge.
Louisville- never been

Pick any town on your list and I'm sure I can find somebody that hates it.
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Gotta agree with 'Dip on this one.

Just looking at two major cities nearby - Chicago and Toronto - and there's no comparison.

Detroit has its few small hubs of nightlife and atmophere. But you can't walk miles upon miles in the city of Detroit, getting absorbed in bustling shops, restaurants, etc, like you can in most other American (and Canadian and European) cities.
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No kidding, but why start a thread kicking an already hurting area by comparing it to Miwaukeeeeee? Gee, next Dip's going to start a thread talking about how you can't buy as much with the dollar these days.
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(07-26-2010 08:25 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Gotta agree with 'Dip on this one.

Just looking at two major cities nearby - Chicago and Toronto - and there's no comparison.

Detroit has its few small hubs of nightlife and atmophere. But you can't walk miles upon miles in the city of Detroit, getting absorbed in bustling shops, restaurants, etc, like you can in most other American (and Canadian and European) cities.

Walk miles upon miles getting absorbed in shops and restaurants? I can think of about 3 cities that fit that descripition- NYC, Chicago, and Toronto.

There's no comparison between Detroit, Chicago, and Toronto because those other two are much bigger. So we're compare Detroit to both huge cities and much smaller (Milwaukee). Doesn't make much sense.
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(07-26-2010 08:21 AM)GRPunk Wrote:  Chicago- Fun town. Expensive though. They have Manhattan prices without, oh being Manhattan. Last time I went it was a pain in the azz because they had Michigan closed at the river to do a movie shoot. Had to walk about 4 blocks out of the way to get around it

You really aren't that familiar with Manhattan prices, are you? I know Chicago seems like Manhattan-style prices to you living in Michigan, but everything about Manhattan is significantly more expensive than Chicago.
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Quote:No kidding, but why start a thread kicking an already hurting area by comparing it to Miwaukeeeeee?

Wasn't about kicking it. The question was, Detroit has many of the same attributes that other major cities have. A waterfront, a major sporting events, ethnic diversity (Greektown, Eastern Market, Mexicantown), and a festival area.

So why can all these other cities downtowns thrive after 5pm, but Detroit's is basically dead, barring a home Tiger game?
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Suburbanites are scared of downtown.
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(07-26-2010 10:11 AM)Chipdip Wrote:  
Quote:No kidding, but why start a thread kicking an already hurting area by comparing it to Miwaukeeeeee?

Wasn't about kicking it. The question was, Detroit has many of the same attributes that other major cities have. A waterfront, a major sporting events, ethnic diversity (Greektown, Eastern Market, Mexicantown), and a festival area.

So why can all these other cities downtowns thrive after 5pm, but Detroit's is basically dead, barring a home Tiger game?

Seemed like a reasonable question- I've been to all but a couple of the Ca towns, minn, Vegas and Milwaukee-but not all recently. I'd ssay I sort of agree with CD that Detroit has less to offer than most on his list. Cleveland doesn't have much and when your downtown economy is based on LeBron James you could be in trouble if he would ever leave for another team. They do have the R&R HOF but I'm not sure that's the going concern it once was. I actually like Cinci but that may be due to misspending a lot of very pleasurable time there in my misspent youth. Last time I was there the area around the campus and Over-theRhine had deteriorated dramatically but Mt. Eden and other fringe downtown areas were still pretty cool.

Just about all the rest I've seen recently seem to have more to offer than Detroit and Milwaukee is probably a pretty good comparison point in terms of demographics. Detroit seems to have trouble picking politicians that are really interested in moving that town forward.
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