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DSniu41 Wrote:one aspect they did not mention in the article was that the citizens of DeKalb built an artificial dam on the Kish, and broke the dam just as the trustees were walking over the lincoln highway bridge. that way, instead of a small lazy river, the Kish looked like a vibrant, roaring river. they did this because Rockford had an edge with the Rock. has anyone else ever heard this story?

Rockford has turned into quite the trash can in recent years. With the increases in gang violence and unemployment, Rockford looks to be pretty much doomed for years to come.

Is this a joke? And where are you from? This post MIGHT have made sense in the late 1990's...but Rockford has made great strides recently. As a PROUD citizen of Rockford, how is my city any different from Aurora, Joliet, Quad Cities, or any other rust belt city? YES there is going to be gang violence in a city with over 150,000 people. And yes, Rockford did have one of the highest unemployment rates in the country - in 1982. Our population is back on the rise, new development is occuring not only on the east side of the city but also on the west side, and our Chicago/Rockford Int'l Airport has become the 22nd busiest cargo airport in the nation. In 2005, Rockford WON the America in Bloom contest for a mid-sized city.
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Boowie Wrote:
DSniu41 Wrote:one aspect they did not mention in the article was that the citizens of DeKalb built an artificial dam on the Kish, and broke the dam just as the trustees were walking over the lincoln highway bridge. that way, instead of a small lazy river, the Kish looked like a vibrant, roaring river. they did this because Rockford had an edge with the Rock. has anyone else ever heard this story?

Rockford has turned into quite the trash can in recent years. With the increases in gang violence and unemployment, Rockford looks to be pretty much doomed for years to come.

Is this a joke? And where are you from? This post MIGHT have made sense in the late 1990's...but Rockford has made great strides recently. As a PROUD citizen of Rockford, how is my city any different from Aurora, Joliet, Quad Cities, or any other rust belt city? YES there is going to be gang violence in a city with over 150,000 people. And yes, Rockford did have one of the highest unemployment rates in the country - in 1982. Our population is back on the rise, new development is occuring not only on the east side of the city but also on the west side, and our Chicago/Rockford Int'l Airport has become the 22nd busiest cargo airport in the nation. In 2005, Rockford WON the America in Bloom contest for a mid-sized city.

I lived in Rockford for over 6 years. My wife (who is a life-long resident of the city) has a cousin was recently shot down and murdered (http://www.topix.com/city/rockford-il/20...in-killing for more info). Police suspect it was due to gang activity. It's pretty aparent that you love your city, but I doubt you live near 11th Street and Sandy Hollow (by the way, that intersection is very close to the church where I was married). While in college, I also worked for the Rockford Register Star (which is in downtown Rockford if you weren't aware) and I have an AA from Rock Valley College. Ask accounting majors at NIU that are from Rockford what the job market for them is like. A friend of mine with a Master's makes $37k in Rockford.

Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
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Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
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Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
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RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).
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RE: History of NIU: The Fight Between DeKalb and Rockford
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BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).
Dallas is a very nice city first off. As is Houston. There are not trailer parks spread throughout these cities despite what you think. The Ballpark at Arlington is one of the nicest baseball stadiums I have ever been to. Just as with any state there are negatives, but Texas is not all hicks with guns, cowboys, and trailerparks. Even Ft. Worth, which is a city that is very western and cowboy themed is a very nice city. Travel to places before you start calling them crapholes or comparing them to Rockford.
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RE: History of NIU: The Fight Between DeKalb and Rockford
RobertN Wrote:
BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).

Good weather, great local economy, cheap cost of living (especially housing), no state income tax. Dallas is big on the arts (concerts, museums, etc.). The city also has tons of shopping & restaurants. Great mexican food & bbq.
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Rockford isn't so bad.

Thru work I have been all over Texas, including Dallas- Ft Worth, Austin, San Antonio, Midland-Odessa, Texarkana, Houston, and Amarillo plus other holes-in the wall you probably have never heard of --my in-laws live also down there.

I really don't like the state and would prefer Rockford if I had a choice.
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boowie - i definately understand the viewpoint you have. i think its safe to admit that there are many areas in Rockford where i don't feel particularly safe. and no, i don't live near 11th and Sandy Hollow, i live a bit farther southeast towards Jefferson High School. but regardless, i guess i just get sick of people from the suburbs and the rest of illinois dogging my city when many of them have never even been. but its good to know that at least your a fellow Rockfordian, so i can respect your opinion.
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Lord Stanley Wrote:A location on the Rock River would of been purdy nice. No matter how you cut it, the Kish is no river in the DeKalb area.

Funny other story about school location - I went to HS in Kankakee, and the rumor was always the the City of Kankakee was give a choice by the State of Illinois if the city wanted a college, or a mental health facility. Being as far back in time as it was when this decision was made, the town elders thought that higher education would never catch on and that big money could be made housing the insane. The named their new money wagon the Illinois Eastern Hospital for the Insane.......

Well we know how well that turned out, considering the cities of Champaign and Urbana snapped up the new University of Illinois and the city of Kankakee now has nothing but the ruins of Shapiro Developmental Center. http://www.rootsweb.com/~asylums/kankakee_il/index.html


When I went to high school, I heard that exact same rumor, only it was Elgin choosing the mental hospital over a university. Funny how these stories get around

hahaha I heard the same deal with Joliet. We took a prison
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RE: History of NIU: The Fight Between DeKalb and Rockford
Boowie Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).

Good weather, great local economy, cheap cost of living (especially housing), no state income tax. Dallas is big on the arts (concerts, museums, etc.). The city also has tons of shopping & restaurants. Great mexican food & bbq.
I guess "good" for weather is subjective. 80-100 degrees and humid is not my idea of good weather. I do notice that you did leave the pollution problems out.
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DSniu41 Wrote:boowie - i definately understand the viewpoint you have. i think its safe to admit that there are many areas in Rockford where i don't feel particularly safe. and no, i don't live near 11th and Sandy Hollow, i live a bit farther southeast towards Jefferson High School. but regardless, i guess i just get sick of people from the suburbs and the rest of illinois dogging my city when many of them have never even been. but its good to know that at least your a fellow Rockfordian, so i can respect your opinion.
You should just come back with: "Hey, at least it isn't Gary or East Saint Louis". 03-lmfao
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RE: History of NIU: The Fight Between DeKalb and Rockford
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).

Good weather, great local economy, cheap cost of living (especially housing), no state income tax. Dallas is big on the arts (concerts, museums, etc.). The city also has tons of shopping & restaurants. Great mexican food & bbq.
I guess "good" for weather is subjective. 80-100 degrees and humid is not my idea of good weather. I do notice that you did leave the pollution problems out.

Yeah it gets hot, but we got 0 inches of snow this year. How much did you get?
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Boowie Wrote:Yeah it gets hot, but we got 0 inches of snow this year. How much did you get?

I like snow. I can't stand 90+ degree weather. When its cold out you can do something by wearing layers of clothes to keep warm. When its that hot out all you can do is try to find shade or stay inside in the air conditioning.
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Boowie Wrote:Yeah it gets hot, but we got 0 inches of snow this year. How much did you get?

I like snow. I can't stand 90+ degree weather. When its cold out you can do something by wearing layers of clothes to keep warm. When its that hot out all you can do is try to find shade or stay inside in the air conditioning.

Pretty much no matter where you live in the US (with a reasonable cost of living), there are going to be 3 months of the year with unpleasant weather. In Illinois, those 3 months will be in frigid cold & filled with much snow. In Texas, those 3 months will be very hot.

My cars are going to last much longer in Texas. My kids are go to a public school system that is ranked #2 in the entire country Forbes Article. There are negatives and positives to living in any place.
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I've never been to Texas, but if I was given the opportunity to live there, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Every time I look at the good old snow shovel, I'm reminded why.
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Lord Stanley Wrote:A location on the Rock River would of been purdy nice. No matter how you cut it, the Kish is no river in the DeKalb area.

Funny other story about school location - I went to HS in Kankakee, and the rumor was always the the City of Kankakee was give a choice by the State of Illinois if the city wanted a college, or a mental health facility. Being as far back in time as it was when this decision was made, the town elders thought that higher education would never catch on and that big money could be made housing the insane. The named their new money wagon the Illinois Eastern Hospital for the Insane.......

Well we know how well that turned out, considering the cities of Champaign and Urbana snapped up the new University of Illinois and the city of Kankakee now has nothing but the ruins of Shapiro Developmental Center. http://www.rootsweb.com/~asylums/kankakee_il/index.html


What high school did you attend? I am a Kankakee Eastridge Raider myself. I sure hope you aren't one of the hated Kayhawks. As I understand it, the option was given to Kankakee regarding the UI and they selected the mental health facilty due to the fact that, at the time, it employed more people.
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Boowie Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:
RobertN Wrote:
Boowie Wrote:Since you asked, I now live in Dallas. I feel safer working in downtown Dallas than I did working in downtown Rockford. I haven't been robbed either (which happened to me several times while living in Rockford).
Well, that makes sense. The white trash shoot at each other while drunk hunting. BTW, is it true that it is legal do drive through Dallas with a shotgun in a shotgun rack on the back of a pickup? I hear there is another new subdivision going in too. I heard it is to be a 500 new housing units. That is going to be a nice size trailer park. I would expect a tornado to hit it in the next couple years. 03-lmfao
Have you even been to Dallas, or even Texas? You have such a skewed view of the world.
No. I have never been to Texass(and quite frankly, would prefer not to). But please, tell me what Texass is like(besides hot, humid and heavily polluted).

Good weather, great local economy, cheap cost of living (especially housing), no state income tax. Dallas is big on the arts (concerts, museums, etc.). The city also has tons of shopping & restaurants. Great mexican food & bbq.
I guess "good" for weather is subjective. 80-100 degrees and humid is not my idea of good weather. I do notice that you did leave the pollution problems out.

Yeah it gets hot, but we got 0 inches of snow this year. How much did you get?
I would guess about 15 inches of snow. We got mostly rain and this winter. Of course, I don't live in Illinois. But to be honest, I actually like snow. The other thing is I am always hot and sweat a lot so 100 and humid just would not be pleasant for me.
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RobertN Wrote:I would guess about 15 inches of snow. We got mostly rain and this winter. Of course, I don't live in Illinois. But to be honest, I actually like snow. The other thing is I am always hot and sweat a lot so 100 and humid just would not be pleasant for me.

If you think we got 15 inches of snow, it is clear you do not live in Illinois. I live in the suburbs, probably 35 miles east and a few miles north of DeKalb. We probably got 48-60 inches of snow this winter (normal is approximately 36 inches). It may have been the snowiest winter since the infamous winter of 1979.
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RobertN Wrote:I would guess about 15 inches of snow. We got mostly rain and this winter. Of course, I don't live in Illinois. But to be honest, I actually like snow. The other thing is I am always hot and sweat a lot so 100 and humid just would not be pleasant for me.

If you think we got 15 inches of snow, it is clear you do not live in Illinois. I live in the suburbs, probably 35 miles east and a few miles north of DeKalb. We probably got 48-60 inches of snow this winter (normal is approximately 36 inches). It may have been the snowiest winter since the infamous winter of 1979.
I mentioned I don't live in Illinois. It is also meentioned in my screen name info. But where I live, 15 is about right. However, we have had about 13-14 inches of rain(which would have been a hell of a lot of snow had it been cold enough for snow-which would be about 168 inches of snow-using approx 12 inches snow= 1 inch rain. However, given changes in the difference in the amount of water the atmosphere can hold as you get colder, I would guess it probably would actually have been the 140-150 inch range.
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