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onlinepole Wrote:http://hovpen.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=81705
Marshall Musil 6-3 220 4.64/40 LaCrosse

Matt Weis 6-5 240 4.8/40 Hoxie
http://hovpen.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=82653

KST has few rides to offer and KS has spent several in TX & MO. Musil is a rb/receiver & LB. Weis has the size and speed for DE a hard position for nonBCS teams to fill.

Neither of them have NIU listed. We are probably not even recruiting them.
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RE: Kansas has some talent
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onlinepole Wrote:http://hovpen.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=81705
Marshall Musil 6-3 220 4.64/40 LaCrosse

Matt Weis 6-5 240 4.8/40 Hoxie
http://hovpen.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=82653

KST has few rides to offer and KS has spent several in TX & MO. Musil is a rb/receiver & LB. Weis has the size and speed for DE a hard position for nonBCS teams to fill.

Neither of them have NIU listed. We are probably not even recruiting them.

NIU's not recruiting them yet, however Kill has historically recruited Kansas. These 2 can play several positions and fill multiple needs.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
Akeem Cunningham, who we were talking to as a late addition to the 2008 recruiting class, signed with Vanderbilt.

http://vanderbilt.scout.com/2/753917.html
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
I have been hearing thru the grapevine that Jordan Stepp is really excited about NIU, or has already given NIU his verbal commitment. Now today I go to ESPN.com and they have NIU listed as his top choice. I'd say this all looks pretty good for our defense!
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
QB Roberts at ACS is schedule to be at NIU Senior Camp Friday night June 6th. He keeps in touch with Fleck often. Fleck has those ties with HC Don Beebe. Both r Kaneland WR and Alums. ???
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
realfootballfan Wrote:QB Roberts at ACS is schedule to be at NIU Senior Camp Friday night June 6th. He keeps in touch with Fleck often. Fleck has those ties with HC Don Beebe. Both r Kaneland WR and Alums. ???

I have to think he is not our top qb choice in this class. Although he could be recruited as a WR/DB right now. He can move. But there are a whole lot of talented QBs out there who are wide open right now. I think if we miss out on a few this kid moves up to our #1 target.

And if that's true about Jordan Stepp I was way off about Kill. He is going out there and recruiting on this level no problem...at least on paper. And that's all we can judge right now.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
qball91899 Wrote:I have been hearing thru the grapevine that Jordan Stepp is really excited about NIU, or has already given NIU his verbal commitment. Now today I go to ESPN.com and they have NIU listed as his top choice. I'd say this all looks pretty good for our defense!

If he signs he will be NIU's first top 50 ranked Dline recruit. That would be quite a coup
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
The only reservation I have about Stepp is his height, which is also why his only offers are from the MAC. At 6'0, if he doesn't work out at DT, you can't really move him anywhere else. That said, given his weight, he could be a nice run-stuffer in the middle.

Going into Indiana and beating other MAC program for a kid from Ben Davis is a terrific job. They have an outstanding program down there.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
UIHuskie Wrote:The only reservation I have about Stepp is his height, which is also why his only offers are from the MAC. At 6'0, if he doesn't work out at DT, you can't really move him anywhere else. That said, given his weight, he could be a nice run-stuffer in the middle.

Going into Indiana and beating other MAC program for a kid from Ben Davis is a terrific job. They have an outstanding program down there.

His height could be an issue. He's listed at 6'1 (wink wink) here: http://northernillinois.scout.com/a.z?s=...id=3542420

Who knows what his true height is. But he's young, he can grow his senior year and inch or so.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
UIHuskie Wrote:The only reservation I have about Stepp is his height, which is also why his only offers are from the MAC. At 6'0, if he doesn't work out at DT, you can't really move him anywhere else. That said, given his weight, he could be a nice run-stuffer in the middle.

Going into Indiana and beating other MAC program for a kid from Ben Davis is a terrific job. They have an outstanding program down there.


Geez, what a guy, and many wonder why some may not like some Big Ten/Illinois fans posting here. :muttering:

I guess the almighty U of I and Big Ten Gods overlooked this NIU D-linemen also because of his height.

Full Name: Hollis Thomas
Born: January 10, 1974
Abilene, TX
Height: 6-0
Weight: 306 lbs
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Experience: 13 years
College: Northern Illinois
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prairiedawg Wrote:Geez, what a guy, and many wonder why some may not like some Big Ten/Illinois fans posting here. :muttering:

I guess the almighty U of I and Big Ten Gods overlooked this NIU D-linemen also because of his height.

Full Name: Hollis Thomas
Born: January 10, 1974
Abilene, TX
Height: 6-0
Weight: 306 lbs
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Experience: 13 years
College: Northern Illinois
I said the kid could be a good run-stuffing DT. I said that the staff is doing a good job (note the word "terrific") recruiting him, getting a kid from out-of-state over other MAC schools is always a good sign. So is getting a kid from Ben Davis, one of the top programs in the State of Indiana. The kid obviously is talented.

And you're upset because I take note of his height? Did you not notice how the poster after me mentioned that his height "could be an issue"? I realize there have been good DT's that are short. I never said there weren't. It's not like I'm just randomly making up stuff here.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
prairiedawg Wrote:
UIHuskie Wrote:The only reservation I have about Stepp is his height, which is also why his only offers are from the MAC. At 6'0, if he doesn't work out at DT, you can't really move him anywhere else. That said, given his weight, he could be a nice run-stuffer in the middle.

Going into Indiana and beating other MAC program for a kid from Ben Davis is a terrific job. They have an outstanding program down there.


Geez, what a guy, and many wonder why some may not like some Big Ten/Illinois fans posting here. :muttering:

I guess the almighty U of I and Big Ten Gods overlooked this NIU D-linemen also because of his height.

Full Name: Hollis Thomas
Born: January 10, 1974
Abilene, TX
Height: 6-0
Weight: 306 lbs
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Experience: 13 years
College: Northern Illinois

That is why I loved the ignore button so much. Post about NIU on this board, and go have your B11 love fest on another one. It seems like a simple request.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
HuskieJ Wrote:That is why I loved the ignore button so much. Post about NIU on this board, and go have your B11 love fest on another one. It seems like a simple request.
I don't happen to see a "B11 love fest" in my post. Feel free to continue ignoring the fact that I pointed out that I think the kid will be a good player for NIU, that I think the staff did a "terrific" job getting him (assuming he is committed), that I think NIU getting into Ben Davis High School in Indianapolis is a good thing given that program's history of turning out quality college players and recruits.

I'm also 100% positive my post was "about NIU", notably because it's in a thread about NIU recruits and 100% of it had to do with an NIU recruit, the NIU coaching staff, the NIU staff's recruiting efforts of him, and the high school the NIU recruit is from.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
HuskieJ Wrote:
prairiedawg Wrote:
UIHuskie Wrote:The only reservation I have about Stepp is his height, which is also why his only offers are from the MAC. At 6'0, if he doesn't work out at DT, you can't really move him anywhere else. That said, given his weight, he could be a nice run-stuffer in the middle.

Going into Indiana and beating other MAC program for a kid from Ben Davis is a terrific job. They have an outstanding program down there.


Geez, what a guy, and many wonder why some may not like some Big Ten/Illinois fans posting here. :muttering:

I guess the almighty U of I and Big Ten Gods overlooked this NIU D-linemen also because of his height.

Full Name: Hollis Thomas
Born: January 10, 1974
Abilene, TX
Height: 6-0
Weight: 306 lbs
.
Experience: 13 years
College: Northern Illinois

That is why I loved the ignore button so much. Post about NIU on this board, and go have your B11 love fest on another one. It seems like a simple request.

You people need to get a grip and stop taking things so personally. Geez, anyone who even hints at any affiliation with U of I just gets pissed on in this forum. Let it go. Keep posting UIHuskie.
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I've never understood the height issue regarding DT's. A 6-0 DT has an advantage over a OG who's 6-3/6-5 in that his pad level is lower and therefore gets more leverage and a better opportunity to clog up the middle of the line. Height is an issue for DE"s since you want them to be able to knock down passes at the line of scrimmage.
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onlinepole Wrote:I've never understood the height issue regarding DT's. A 6-0 DT has an advantage over a OG who's 6-3/6-5 in that his pad level is lower and therefore gets more leverage and a better opportunity to clog up the middle of the line. Height is an issue for DE"s since you want them to be able to knock down passes at the line of scrimmage.
It's not as big of an issue for a DT, but most are still taller than 6'0. That said, there have been plenty of good ones who were around 6'0 (as was correctly pointed out with the Hollis Thomas reference). It just, in part, gets tied into arm length, and you generally like your DL to have longer arms so that the OL can't get into their body and limit their mobility.

But, as you said, it's a much bigger deal for DE's.

My point was more that it limits the ability of the coaching staff to move the kid around if they want. If he's a good DT, which I think he can/will be, that won't make any difference.

FWIW, I asked a buddy of mine that lives in the Indy area about Stepp. He said he'd heard nothing but good things about the kid.
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qball91899 Wrote:I have been hearing thru the grapevine that Jordan Stepp is really excited about NIU, or has already given NIU his verbal commitment. Now today I go to ESPN.com and they have NIU listed as his top choice. I'd say this all looks pretty good for our defense!

The fact that Novak and his staff spent considerable time and resources working Indiana will benefit Kill. I'm sure whoever is responsible for recruiting Stepp made him aware there are already 10 Indiana HS players on the roster. It's not as if he would be a guinea pig, as Indiana has been in the NIU recruiting footprint for a long time.
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RE: 2009 FB prospects considering NIU
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onlinepole Wrote:I've never understood the height issue regarding DT's. A 6-0 DT has an advantage over a OG who's 6-3/6-5 in that his pad level is lower and therefore gets more leverage and a better opportunity to clog up the middle of the line. Height is an issue for DE"s since you want them to be able to knock down passes at the line of scrimmage.
It's not as big of an issue for a DT, but most are still taller than 6'0. That said, there have been plenty of good ones who were around 6'0 (as was correctly pointed out with the Hollis Thomas reference). It just, in part, gets tied into arm length, and you generally like your DL to have longer arms so that the OL can't get into their body and limit their mobility.
But, as you said, it's a much bigger deal for DE's.

My point was more that it limits the ability of the coaching staff to move the kid around if they want. If he's a good DT, which I think he can/will be, that won't make any difference.

FWIW, I asked a buddy of mine that lives in the Indy area about Stepp. He said he'd heard nothing but good things about the kid.


And their ability to get their arms up high to knock down or get in the passing lane. Height at times can be an issue. I'm not sure what his "true" height is, and that is going to be the issue. He does seem like he is a player and IF kill did get a verbal out of him it's a very good get regardless of it he is 5'10 or 6'1.
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I would think the height issue could go either way. Tall guys can bat down passes, short guys can bowl over tall O-linemen. Bottom line is I don't think he would be in the top 50 if he couldn't play. My next question is about Tyquan Hammock. Is he any realtion to Thomas Hammock that used to play RB for our beloved cardinal and black? Could he be any help in recruiting the young man to come to NIU? It's actually too bad that Thomas had heart problems that ended his career or he might be the one the NFL is going nuts over instead of Michael "the Burner" Turner.
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qball91899 Wrote:I would think the height issue could go either way. Tall guys can bat down passes, short guys can bowl over tall O-linemen. Bottom line is I don't think he would be in the top 50 if he couldn't play. My next question is about Tyquan Hammock. Is he any realtion to Thomas Hammock that used to play RB for our beloved cardinal and black? Could he be any help in recruiting the young man to come to NIU? It's actually too bad that Thomas had heart problems that ended his career or he might be the one the NFL is going nuts over instead of Michael "the Burner" Turner.

Tyquan is Thomas' brother. I believe Tyquan is leaning towards Minnesota, where Thomas is currently the RB coach.
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