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Rock Bottom Wrote:I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY (did I say REALLY) find it hard to believe that Billy Lowe wouldn't have been a better option (no pun intended).

...well ask georgia southern what their issue is with him. He's on their bench too.

I just think 2 teams can't be wrong. He may be better than morris, but...I think a lot of people could be better than morris.

Well, since so many of you (not saying you newguy) comment on how important learning the playbook is, I don't think you can compare what he is doing with Georgia S. to what you COULD have done here.

That might be the issue. He may have problems learning the playbook. It all kind of comes together. Morris for sure isn't more talented than him.
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And Nicholson definitely isn't either.
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Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....
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Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....

My opinion. Obviously there is no way to prove who's better unless all three played against the same competition, but Nicholson's brutal and I find it hard to believe that a QB for the #1 HS team in the nation could be worse.
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
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Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....

My opinion. Obviously there is no way to prove who's better unless all three played against the same competition, but Nicholson's brutal and I find it hard to believe that a QB for the #1 HS team in the nation could be worse.

So your opinion is the #4 qb at georgia Southern is "definatly" better than Nicholson?
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
TheNEWguy Wrote:
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Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....

My opinion. Obviously there is no way to prove who's better unless all three played against the same competition, but Nicholson's brutal and I find it hard to believe that a QB for the #1 HS team in the nation could be worse.

So your opinion is the #4 qb at georgia Southern is "definatly" better than Nicholson?

Yes. Can you prove that I'm wrong? No, you can't; and I can't prove that I'm right -that's why it is called an opinion.
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
Rock Bottom Wrote:
TheNEWguy Wrote:
Rock Bottom Wrote:
TheNEWguy Wrote:
Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....

My opinion. Obviously there is no way to prove who's better unless all three played against the same competition, but Nicholson's brutal and I find it hard to believe that a QB for the #1 HS team in the nation could be worse.

So your opinion is the #4 qb at georgia Southern is "definatly" better than Nicholson?

Yes. Can you prove that I'm wrong? No, you can't; and I can't prove that I'm right -that's why it is called an opinion.


Just checking on your opinion. Didn't say I proved you wrong. Just wanted to make sure you were saying the #4 Georgia Southern QB who was #3 here is better than our starter. Not saying you are wrong.
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COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

+1.

Whats so complex about handing the ball to justin anderson, and then every so often rolling out and throwing the ball away to prevent a coverage sack?


In all seriousness though, why wouldnt Harnish at least have enough of a grasp of the offense to be able to play in a game? That doesnt make much sense to me...what do you guys think he does in practice, plays catch for 3 hours? He must know at least most of the offense, if not all of it...If anything they may have to dumb it down for him, much like the bears did for kyle orton in 2005, but id still take that. I want to see what we have coming up at the qb position. I want to see a playmaker.
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
clcfball11 Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

+1.

Whats so complex about handing the ball to justin anderson, and then every so often rolling out and throwing the ball away to prevent a coverage sack?


In all seriousness though, why wouldnt Harnish at least have enough of a grasp of the offense to be able to play in a game? That doesnt make much sense to me...what do you guys think he does in practice, plays catch for 3 hours? He must know at least most of the offense, if not all of it...If anything they may have to dumb it down for him, much like the bears did for kyle orton in 2005, but id still take that. I want to see what we have coming up at the qb position. I want to see a playmaker.


So, you want to waste a Red Shirt right now.

BUT, you also want Novak gone.

So what you are saying is you want to waste a QBs redshirt, learning an offense that a new coach will not be running next year?
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
TheNEWguy Wrote:
Rock Bottom Wrote:
TheNEWguy Wrote:
Rock Bottom Wrote:
TheNEWguy Wrote:
Rock Bottom Wrote:And Nicholson definitely isn't either.

Based on....

My opinion. Obviously there is no way to prove who's better unless all three played against the same competition, but Nicholson's brutal and I find it hard to believe that a QB for the #1 HS team in the nation could be worse.

So your opinion is the #4 qb at georgia Southern is "definatly" better than Nicholson?

Yes. Can you prove that I'm wrong? No, you can't; and I can't prove that I'm right -that's why it is called an opinion.


Just checking on your opinion. Didn't say I proved you wrong. Just wanted to make sure you were saying the #4 Georgia Southern QB who was #3 here is better than our starter. Not saying you are wrong.

He's got a blown out L5 vertebrae . He will need surgery but he's still there # 2 qb. He has got to play in a mop up game and threw for a TD and he had some decent rushing yards in another game. Your season isn't over yet so why is everyone throwing in the towel. Support your team win or lose and you will be the winner.
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
TheNEWguy Wrote:
clcfball11 Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

+1.

Whats so complex about handing the ball to justin anderson, and then every so often rolling out and throwing the ball away to prevent a coverage sack?


In all seriousness though, why wouldnt Harnish at least have enough of a grasp of the offense to be able to play in a game? That doesnt make much sense to me...what do you guys think he does in practice, plays catch for 3 hours? He must know at least most of the offense, if not all of it...If anything they may have to dumb it down for him, much like the bears did for kyle orton in 2005, but id still take that. I want to see what we have coming up at the qb position. I want to see a playmaker.


So, you want to waste a Red Shirt right now.

BUT, you also want Novak gone.

So what you are saying is you want to waste a QBs redshirt, learning an offense that a new coach will not be running next year?

I guess what i want is to see if we have any hope at the qb position, and i admit i am losing patience. I guess the wise idea could be to let the ryan morris/dan nicholson slow white guy experience finish up the remainder of the season because novak is gonna be gone next season, but i just am being selfish and want to see what weve got coming up, i admit it
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RE: Will Ryan Morris really start for our homecoming....?
COHUSKIE Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

Yeah, that's all we did with Nicholson in the game today. Our offense can't be too easy to run as Morris looked lost out there and has been in our system for a lot longer than the true freshmen QB's and on the last play before our last punt he gets sacked going the wrong way on the play.
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You play Harnish. Morris is garbage and you're not going to learn anything by having him at QB. At least with Harnish, you can build for 08.
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clcfball11 Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

+1.

Whats so complex about handing the ball to justin anderson, and then every so often rolling out and throwing the ball away to prevent a coverage sack?


In all seriousness though, why wouldnt Harnish at least have enough of a grasp of the offense to be able to play in a game? That doesnt make much sense to me...what do you guys think he does in practice, plays catch for 3 hours? He must know at least most of the offense, if not all of it...If anything they may have to dumb it down for him, much like the bears did for kyle orton in 2005, but id still take that. I want to see what we have coming up at the qb position. I want to see a playmaker.

What if all you see is a confused kid that has absolutely zero idea of what he's doing? That's the overwhelming possibility if you put in a true freshman right now. Even if he plays, he won't be learning anything, because he has to have a grasp of the offense in order to do that. It almost always takes a solid year in a system to start to understand the nuances of the offense.

And yes, COHUSKIE, it is a compex offense. Any offense that involves at least four receivers in the pattern every play is complex. The fact that we haven't developed quarterbacks adequately may be blameworthy, but this offense is capable of a heck of a lot more than we currently are able to do with it.

The scheme isn't the problem. Playing a freshman isn't the answer. It's merely a new problem to throw in there.
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cawoo22 Wrote:
clcfball11 Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
COHUSKIE Wrote:Bank on it. If Dan can't go Morris will be the starter guaranteed! This is Joe, only the upperclassman can play, Novak.

Yes, because a third string true freshmen who has had minimal snaps in practice, doesn't know our playbook, and is playing with an injury-depleted team is going to have a lot of success.

Yeah its such a difficult playbook. 1st down...run, 2nd down... run, 3rd down.. maybe pass but probably run. Geez you make it sound like we run somekind of complex offense?

+1.

Whats so complex about handing the ball to justin anderson, and then every so often rolling out and throwing the ball away to prevent a coverage sack?


In all seriousness though, why wouldnt Harnish at least have enough of a grasp of the offense to be able to play in a game? That doesnt make much sense to me...what do you guys think he does in practice, plays catch for 3 hours? He must know at least most of the offense, if not all of it...If anything they may have to dumb it down for him, much like the bears did for kyle orton in 2005, but id still take that. I want to see what we have coming up at the qb position. I want to see a playmaker.

What if all you see is a confused kid that has absolutely zero idea of what he's doing? That's the overwhelming possibility if you put in a true freshman right now. Even if he plays, he won't be learning anything, because he has to have a grasp of the offense in order to do that. It almost always takes a solid year in a system to start to understand the nuances of the offense.

And yes, COHUSKIE, it is a compex offense. Any offense that involves at least four receivers in the pattern every play is complex. The fact that we haven't developed quarterbacks adequately may be blameworthy, but this offense is capable of a heck of a lot more than we currently are able to do with it.

The scheme isn't the problem. Playing a freshman isn't the answer. It's merely a new problem to throw in there.

+1

Good post.
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If Nicholson is out for multipe weeks, you should just start Harnish. Odds are Morris will miss a play due to injury and you would have to play Harnish anyway, so I would just start him and let him get expierence.
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Didn't Nate Davis at Ball State start playing midway through his freshman season?
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DiehardHuskie Wrote:Didn't Nate Davis at Ball State start playing midway through his freshman season?
Pretty sure it was less then that. His first start came against us, which I believe was the 5th game of the season.

Although I doubt Harnish is as good as Davis is.
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This is really far-fetched but at this point I would like to see what Britt Davis could do at QB. This week is probably too soon but if he is healthy, I'd like to see him at QB for the final five games. He knows the offense, why not give it a try? I'm not expecting them to do it, but I would like to see it anyway.
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Huskie-82 Wrote:This is really far-fetched but at this point I would like to see what Britt Davis could do at QB. This week is probably too soon but if he is healthy, I'd like to see him at QB for the final five games. He knows the offense, why not give it a try? I'm not expecting them to do it, but I would like to see it anyway.

He'd still have to learn a few things. He knows where he should block on the run plays now, but as the QB he has to know where to go. Why not have him as our #2 if danny is out for any amount of time? Saves a redshirt!
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