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kaisersayzo Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
04-14-2003 02:53 PM
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Do you have trouble making these kind of distinction outside of the internet, too? If you ever wanna be in the sports business, you can't use this kind of logic... And I'm saying this as someone who knows that crappy logic will get you nowhere in a business that pays you for your opinion.
what distinction are you talking about anyway...it is wel' known that lunardi is not well liked in inner circles...ever thought about that logic, or did that slip your youthful exurberant mind?
the distinction between making fun of a person and making fun of something about them or something they believe in. I'm sure you've taken logic classes before... know what an ad hominem is?

nate..you're wrong...trust me, you are wrong...I know you will have a hard time believing that, but you are dead wrong...stop acting like you know everything about everything in the world...it makes you look foolish...this is somthing that you will have to learn about, if you want to suceed in life, period....

And you were saying that I was resorting to making things personal? Please. You act like you know just as much as me, probably more.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive.

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40.

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful.
04-14-2003 04:08 PM
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). Thought so... Only a Terp would equate playing near your home and playing at your home. Completely different psyche I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). Those games happened a long time ago... I'm talking the most recent games buddy... stop talking so much about the distant past. I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. Spin it any way you want... or you could say that Duke outplayed Maryland for 25 minutes of one game, and 40 minutes of another. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive. Yeah, Duke beat UNC when it mattered. Maryland lost to UNC when it mattered. But, I mean... it's all cause of the location! Maryland sucks too bad to be able to win anywhere... I guess...

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40. Location... location... location... I mean, isn't that yours and GW's logic?

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. That would explain his ****** ****** record head to head vs. K He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Yeah, Gary doesn't recruit big time players... to make it tougher for himself... yep... Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits Wilcox wasn't? :rolleyes: like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. [b]Dunleavy was the same caliber of an HS recruit as Wilcox was. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man. LOL... we will see... you love speculation don't you.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful. I keep having dreams of drowning in Gary's large amounts of sweat.
Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
04-14-2003 04:25 PM
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
durham = pure class...
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nate jonesacc Wrote:He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players
but coach k does :rolleyes:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:
kaisersayzo Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). Thought so... Only a Terp would equate playing near your home and playing at your home. Completely different psyche I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). Those games happened a long time ago... I'm talking the most recent games buddy... stop talking so much about the distant past. I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. Spin it any way you want... or you could say that Duke outplayed Maryland for 25 minutes of one game, and 40 minutes of another. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive. Yeah, Duke beat UNC when it mattered. Maryland lost to UNC when it mattered. But, I mean... it's all cause of the location! Maryland sucks too bad to be able to win anywhere... I guess...

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40. Location... location... location... I mean, isn't that yours and GW's logic?

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. That would explain his ****** ****** record head to head vs. K He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Yeah, Gary doesn't recruit big time players... to make it tougher for himself... yep... Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits Wilcox wasn't? :rolleyes: like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. [b]Dunleavy was the same caliber of an HS recruit as Wilcox was. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man. LOL... we will see... you love speculation don't you.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful. I keep having dreams of drowning in Gary's large amounts of sweat.
Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
It's very curious how you leave out very important details. You say Duke won when it counted. Duke lost to NC to make an impressive 3rd ranking in the ACC (right behind MD). MD snapped Dukes winning streak (with an exclamation point). MD beat NC at NC...Duke did not. Oh but that was in the distant past I guess.

OK the fact here is that MD and Duke both left the NCAA tourney at the same time (thanks for the fine display of shooting JJ). MD did lose the ACC tourney once again. Who cares? Even if MD won it, the conference championship (which is always played in NC) means nothing unless you are on the bubble for a #1 selection in the REAL tournament.

As for all your spin talk. Facts are facts. You belittle them any way you see fit to try to make your team look a little less disappionting than they were. That's fine. Most of us know what the truth is. Me, I'm happy with how well MD did this year considering the key player losses. You can babble anything you want and it won't change my opinion.

By the way, you are right about Dunleavy and Wilcox being on the same caliber of recruiting. Please don't argue that JD, Baxter, Mouton and Blake were any where close to Jones, JWill, and Battier. You know better.

Final note...I will speculate that MD will be giving Duke all the troubles it can handle for at least the next 3 years. Get used to the names Mike Jones, John Gilcrest, Nik Caner-Medley, Jamar Smith, Ekene Ibekwe and Hassan Fofana. Pay special attention to Mike Jones, Chris McCray and John Gilcrest. They will be the ones showing Duke how to hit the three while still having an inside game (you know who I'm talking about?).
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
That's the best insult you can muster? I thought you were smarter than that. How about you pull Chris Duhon out of your ****** and replace it with that worthless Puke degree you have hanging in your parents house.

If you're going to smack-talk, at least bring some imagination.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players
but coach k does :rolleyes:
Coach K has recruited 2 questionable students... name others, please...
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). Thought so... Only a Terp would equate playing near your home and playing at your home. Completely different psyche I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). Those games happened a long time ago... I'm talking the most recent games buddy... stop talking so much about the distant past. I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. Spin it any way you want... or you could say that Duke outplayed Maryland for 25 minutes of one game, and 40 minutes of another. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive. Yeah, Duke beat UNC when it mattered. Maryland lost to UNC when it mattered. But, I mean... it's all cause of the location! Maryland sucks too bad to be able to win anywhere... I guess...

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40. Location... location... location... I mean, isn't that yours and GW's logic?

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. That would explain his ****** ****** record head to head vs. K He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Yeah, Gary doesn't recruit big time players... to make it tougher for himself... yep... Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits Wilcox wasn't? :rolleyes: like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. [b]Dunleavy was the same caliber of an HS recruit as Wilcox was. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man. LOL... we will see... you love speculation don't you.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful. I keep having dreams of drowning in Gary's large amounts of sweat.
Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
It's very curious how you leave out very important details. You say Duke won when it counted. Duke lost to NC to make an impressive 3rd ranking in the ACC (right behind MD). MD snapped Dukes winning streak (with an exclamation point). MD beat NC at NC...Duke did not. Oh but that was in the distant past I guess. Yeah... that impressive ranking of 2nd that Maryland got... especially when both teams were 11-5. :rolleyes: Maryland could have been solely 2nd, but lost to UVA, who Duke demolished. Duke was 14-5... Maryland was 11-6. Cut it any way you want, those are the records... Maryland went 0-2 against UVA, Duke went 0-2... They both were 2-1 against UNC, and Duke won when it mattered.

OK the fact here is that MD and Duke both left the NCAA tourney at the same time (thanks for the fine display of shooting JJ). MD did lose the ACC tourney once again. Who cares? Even if MD won it, the conference championship (which is always played in NC) means nothing unless you are on the bubble for a #1 selection in the REAL tournament. The conference tourney means nothing... LOL YOU ARE GARY WILLIAMS! Go figure that Duke lost to the eventual RUNNER UP (2 seed) and Maryland lost to 7 seed MICHIGAN ST. Yeah, and this was after you demolished that powerhouse of UNC-W.

As for all your spin talk. Facts are facts. You belittle them any way you see fit to try to make your team look a little less disappionting than they were. That's fine. Most of us know what the truth is. Me, I'm happy with how well MD did this year considering the key player losses. You can babble anything you want and it won't change my opinion.
Yeah... winning the ACC and a sweet 16 is pretty damn good for a supposed "rebuilding year".
By the way, you are right about Dunleavy and Wilcox being on the same caliber of recruiting. Please don't argue that JD, Baxter, Mouton and Blake were any where close to Jones, JWill, and Battier. You know better. I never said that... but even so... Jones wasn't even a top 75 player coming out of high school.

Final note...I will speculate that MD will be giving Duke all the troubles it can handle for at least the next 3 years. Get used to the names Mike Jones, John Gilcrest, Nik Caner-Medley, Jamar Smith, Ekene Ibekwe and Hassan Fofana. Pay special attention to Mike Jones, Chris McCray and John Gilcrest. They will be the ones showing Duke how to hit the three while still having an inside game (you know who I'm talking about?). Luol Deng. Remember Grant Hill?
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nate jonesacc Wrote:
kaisersayzo Wrote:
nate jonesacc Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). Thought so... Only a Terp would equate playing near your home and playing at your home. Completely different psyche I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). Those games happened a long time ago... I'm talking the most recent games buddy... stop talking so much about the distant past. I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. Spin it any way you want... or you could say that Duke outplayed Maryland for 25 minutes of one game, and 40 minutes of another. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive. Yeah, Duke beat UNC when it mattered. Maryland lost to UNC when it mattered. But, I mean... it's all cause of the location! Maryland sucks too bad to be able to win anywhere... I guess...

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40. Location... location... location... I mean, isn't that yours and GW's logic?

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. That would explain his ****** ****** record head to head vs. K He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Yeah, Gary doesn't recruit big time players... to make it tougher for himself... yep... Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits Wilcox wasn't? :rolleyes: like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. [b]Dunleavy was the same caliber of an HS recruit as Wilcox was. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man. LOL... we will see... you love speculation don't you.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful. I keep having dreams of drowning in Gary's large amounts of sweat.
Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
It's very curious how you leave out very important details. You say Duke won when it counted. Duke lost to NC to make an impressive 3rd ranking in the ACC (right behind MD). MD snapped Dukes winning streak (with an exclamation point). MD beat NC at NC...Duke did not. Oh but that was in the distant past I guess. Yeah... that impressive ranking of 2nd that Maryland got... especially when both teams were 11-5. :rolleyes: Maryland could have been solely 2nd, but lost to UVA, who Duke demolished. Duke was 14-5... Maryland was 11-6. Cut it any way you want, those are the records... Maryland went 0-2 against UVA, Duke went 0-2... They both were 2-1 against UNC, and Duke won when it mattered.

OK the fact here is that MD and Duke both left the NCAA tourney at the same time (thanks for the fine display of shooting JJ). MD did lose the ACC tourney once again. Who cares? Even if MD won it, the conference championship (which is always played in NC) means nothing unless you are on the bubble for a #1 selection in the REAL tournament. The conference tourney means nothing... LOL YOU ARE GARY WILLIAMS! Go figure that Duke lost to the eventual RUNNER UP (2 seed) and Maryland lost to 7 seed MICHIGAN ST. Yeah, and this was after you demolished that powerhouse of UNC-W.

As for all your spin talk. Facts are facts. You belittle them any way you see fit to try to make your team look a little less disappionting than they were. That's fine. Most of us know what the truth is. Me, I'm happy with how well MD did this year considering the key player losses. You can babble anything you want and it won't change my opinion.
Yeah... winning the ACC and a sweet 16 is pretty damn good for a supposed "rebuilding year".
By the way, you are right about Dunleavy and Wilcox being on the same caliber of recruiting. Please don't argue that JD, Baxter, Mouton and Blake were any where close to Jones, JWill, and Battier. You know better. I never said that... but even so... Jones wasn't even a top 75 player coming out of high school.

Final note...I will speculate that MD will be giving Duke all the troubles it can handle for at least the next 3 years. Get used to the names Mike Jones, John Gilcrest, Nik Caner-Medley, Jamar Smith, Ekene Ibekwe and Hassan Fofana. Pay special attention to Mike Jones, Chris McCray and John Gilcrest. They will be the ones showing Duke how to hit the three while still having an inside game (you know who I'm talking about?). Luol Deng. Remember Grant Hill?
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Grant Hill is the best player ever to come out of Duke's halls. What does that have to do with the future of MD vs. Duke though? Remember Steve Francis?

Last time I checked the reports, Deng is listed as an inside player. Jones won the three point contest while being listed as an all-around scorer. Please don't remind me that Duhon won it. Old news and I think you know that he has faultered ever since getting such high praises.

Duke has two great recruits this year and I would be SHOCKED if they weren't good players (they have to be). The arguement here seems to always stray from the fact that MD gets less respect in recruiting and does more with what they get than Duke does. Duke gets the best and should be the best. So why aren't they consistently the best? Coaching perhaps?

I'm not going to lie and say Duke sucks...they don't. I just find it humorous when un-educated arrogant Duke fans look past the obvious truth that MD is not going away because of superior coaching. We could argue for years and while Sweaty Gary is coaching MD, Duke will have someone to knock them down off their slippery pedastal. And while MD has success against the over-televised "powerhouse" that is Duke, they will slowly and surely be attracting the recruits that only Duke would have had a chance of getting (Michael Jones - highest recruit in the history of MD basketball would only be considered a 3rd best in a typical Duke recruiting year). Someday when there is a level player playing field, the better coached team will prevail even more so.

And while we are at it, didn't Duke (the team that should have won it all the year before) choke in the sweet 16 again? Say what you want about the teams MD faced in the tourney, the end result was no worse than last year's Duke dump. The result was no worse than Coach K relying on a freshman to carry their team past Kansas this year (1-12 from the 3). Bad coaching.
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:I guess you could call this year a huge ****** choke then... eh?

Those mighty Heels... who you lost to, and Duke SHELLACKED the next day... FEAR THE TURTLE! :laugh:
Wow...great memory. I seem to remember Duke getting beat by NC as well. I also seem to remember Duke getting it's ****** kicked by MD earlier that year as well. Big surprise when NC teams win the conference championship when the last 44 out of 50 tourneys have been played in Dukes back yard. I assure you that when the tourney comes to DC in 2005, things will change quite a bit.
Duke lost... by 3... AT UNC... Interesting how you left those details out...

You sound just like your whiny ****** coach.

BTW... keep trying to deny the facts. You lost to a team that Duke demolished THE NEXT DAY...
The only interesting thing is that Duke lost to UNC at UNC. Gee, MD lost (basically) at UNC (tourney in the back yard). Thought so... Only a Terp would equate playing near your home and playing at your home. Completely different psyche I believe the other two losses that MD handed UNC were for a combined 58 points (at MD and at UNC). Those games happened a long time ago... I'm talking the most recent games buddy... stop talking so much about the distant past. I also beleive Duke beat MD at Duke by 5 and MD kicked the ****** out of Duke at MD. Spin it any way you want... or you could say that Duke outplayed Maryland for 25 minutes of one game, and 40 minutes of another. So I guess what I'm saying is... what point were you trying to make? It would appear that Duke and MD had the same record playing NC. MD's were resoundingly more impressive. Yeah, Duke beat UNC when it mattered. Maryland lost to UNC when it mattered. But, I mean... it's all cause of the location! Maryland sucks too bad to be able to win anywhere... I guess...

As for your BTW....Duke lost to a NC team that MD beat by 40. Location... location... location... I mean, isn't that yours and GW's logic?

As for my whiny coach.... my whiny coach outcoaches coach K consistantly every year. That would explain his ****** ****** record head to head vs. K He consistantly takes lesser recruits and makes them a top conference team. He consistently recruits mediocre students and can't get top notch people and players. Even you can't protest that it's not easier for a coach that recruit 5 all-americans has it much easier than one who doesn't. Yeah, Gary doesn't recruit big time players... to make it tougher for himself... yep... Juan Dixon, LB, Chris Wilcox, and Byron Mouton were NOT all-american recruits Wilcox wasn't? :rolleyes: like Battier, Dunleavy, JWill...etc. [b]Dunleavy was the same caliber of an HS recruit as Wilcox was. So, you can have your coach and we'll see now that MD has top-notch recruits, who is the better man. LOL... we will see... you love speculation don't you.

ps. I keep having these horrible nightmares that I am being poked to death by Coack K's pointy face....it's really awful. I keep having dreams of drowning in Gary's large amounts of sweat.
Will someone nuke College Park to eliminate some morons from the gene pool?
It's very curious how you leave out very important details. You say Duke won when it counted. Duke lost to NC to make an impressive 3rd ranking in the ACC (right behind MD). MD snapped Dukes winning streak (with an exclamation point). MD beat NC at NC...Duke did not. Oh but that was in the distant past I guess. Yeah... that impressive ranking of 2nd that Maryland got... especially when both teams were 11-5. :rolleyes: Maryland could have been solely 2nd, but lost to UVA, who Duke demolished. Duke was 14-5... Maryland was 11-6. Cut it any way you want, those are the records... Maryland went 0-2 against UVA, Duke went 0-2... They both were 2-1 against UNC, and Duke won when it mattered.

OK the fact here is that MD and Duke both left the NCAA tourney at the same time (thanks for the fine display of shooting JJ). MD did lose the ACC tourney once again. Who cares? Even if MD won it, the conference championship (which is always played in NC) means nothing unless you are on the bubble for a #1 selection in the REAL tournament. The conference tourney means nothing... LOL YOU ARE GARY WILLIAMS! Go figure that Duke lost to the eventual RUNNER UP (2 seed) and Maryland lost to 7 seed MICHIGAN ST. Yeah, and this was after you demolished that powerhouse of UNC-W.

As for all your spin talk. Facts are facts. You belittle them any way you see fit to try to make your team look a little less disappionting than they were. That's fine. Most of us know what the truth is. Me, I'm happy with how well MD did this year considering the key player losses. You can babble anything you want and it won't change my opinion.
Yeah... winning the ACC and a sweet 16 is pretty damn good for a supposed "rebuilding year".
By the way, you are right about Dunleavy and Wilcox being on the same caliber of recruiting. Please don't argue that JD, Baxter, Mouton and Blake were any where close to Jones, JWill, and Battier. You know better. I never said that... but even so... Jones wasn't even a top 75 player coming out of high school.

Final note...I will speculate that MD will be giving Duke all the troubles it can handle for at least the next 3 years. Get used to the names Mike Jones, John Gilcrest, Nik Caner-Medley, Jamar Smith, Ekene Ibekwe and Hassan Fofana. Pay special attention to Mike Jones, Chris McCray and John Gilcrest. They will be the ones showing Duke how to hit the three while still having an inside game (you know who I'm talking about?). Luol Deng. Remember Grant Hill?
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Grant Hill is the best player ever to come out of Duke's halls. What does that have to do with the future of MD vs. Duke though? Remember Steve Francis?
Remember the names... Luol Deng and Grant Hill. BTW... who is Steve Francis? Ask Chris Carawell... he might remember him.

Last time I checked the reports, Deng is listed as an inside player. Jones won the three point contest while being listed as an all-around scorer. Please don't remind me that Duhon won it. Old news and I think you know that he has faultered ever since getting such high praises. Deng is a Grant Hill clone. He can play inside... however... his strengths are on the wings and in transition. Jones wasn'ttop 75 player and was not a McDonald's AA.

Duke has two great recruits this year and I would be SHOCKED if they weren't good players (they have to be). The arguement here seems to always stray from the fact that MD gets less respect in recruiting and does more with what they get than Duke does. Duke gets the best and should be the best. So why aren't they consistently the best? Coaching perhaps? Duke isn't consistently the best? WTF? Duke has won the ACC tournament 5 straight years... and has won the ACC Regular season 5 out of the last 7 years. In the past 5 years, Duke has been to 2 FFs, been ranked #1 in every year, won an NC, and been at least to the sweet 16 every year. Duke's overall record in the past 5 years is something like 190-25. Look at the last line in my sig for more info. You're an idiot.

I'm not going to lie and say Duke sucks...they don't. I just find it humorous when un-educated arrogant Duke fans look past the obvious truth that MD is not going away because of superior coaching. We could argue for years and while Sweaty Gary is coaching MD, Duke will have someone to knock them down off their slippery pedastal. And while MD has success against the over-televised "powerhouse" that is Duke, they will slowly and surely be attracting the recruits that only Duke would have had a chance of getting (Michael Jones - highest recruit in the history of MD basketball would only be considered a 3rd best in a typical Duke recruiting year). Someday when there is a level player playing field, the better coached team will prevail even more so. If only it was that simple...

And while we are at it, didn't Duke (the team that should have won it all the year before) choke in the sweet 16 again? Say what you want about the teams MD faced in the tourney, the end result was no worse than last year's Duke dump. The result was no worse than Coach K relying on a freshman to carry their team past Kansas this year (1-12 from the 3). Bad coaching. Only a Maryland fan would consider a 3 seed losing to a 2 seed as a choke... LMFAO!! Keep diggin that hole buddy!
Please nuke this guy.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Grant Hill is the best player ever to come out of Duke's halls. What does that have to do with the future of MD vs. Duke though? Remember Steve Francis?
Remember the names... Luol Deng and Grant Hill. BTW... who is Steve Francis? Ask Chris Carawell... he might remember him.

Last time I checked the reports, Deng is listed as an inside player. Jones won the three point contest while being listed as an all-around scorer. Please don't remind me that Duhon won it. Old news and I think you know that he has faultered ever since getting such high praises. Deng is a Grant Hill clone. He can play inside... however... his strengths are on the wings and in transition. Jones wasn'ttop 75 player and was not a McDonald's AA.

Duke has two great recruits this year and I would be SHOCKED if they weren't good players (they have to be). The arguement here seems to always stray from the fact that MD gets less respect in recruiting and does more with what they get than Duke does. Duke gets the best and should be the best. So why aren't they consistently the best? Coaching perhaps? Duke isn't consistently the best? WTF? Duke has won the ACC tournament 5 straight years... and has won the ACC Regular season 5 out of the last 7 years. In the past 5 years, Duke has been to 2 FFs, been ranked #1 in every year, won an NC, and been at least to the sweet 16 every year. Duke's overall record in the past 5 years is something like 190-25. Look at the last line in my sig for more info. You're an idiot.

I'm not going to lie and say Duke sucks...they don't. I just find it humorous when un-educated arrogant Duke fans look past the obvious truth that MD is not going away because of superior coaching. We could argue for years and while Sweaty Gary is coaching MD, Duke will have someone to knock them down off their slippery pedastal. And while MD has success against the over-televised "powerhouse" that is Duke, they will slowly and surely be attracting the recruits that only Duke would have had a chance of getting (Michael Jones - highest recruit in the history of MD basketball would only be considered a 3rd best in a typical Duke recruiting year). Someday when there is a level player playing field, the better coached team will prevail even more so. If only it was that simple...

And while we are at it, didn't Duke (the team that should have won it all the year before) choke in the sweet 16 again? Say what you want about the teams MD faced in the tourney, the end result was no worse than last year's Duke dump. The result was no worse than Coach K relying on a freshman to carry their team past Kansas this year (1-12 from the 3). Bad coaching. Only a Maryland fan would consider a 3 seed losing to a 2 seed as a choke... LMFAO!! Keep diggin that hole buddy!
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Direct from the McDonald's AA web site you F*cking moron.

Starting for the East Team.

MICHAEL JONES
Thayer Academy - Braintree, MA
Guard - 6'5 - 195 Pounds
University of Maryland

Michael is a slender but smooth shooting guard out of the talented New England prep school league. At 6'5, Michael has a versatile arsenal that includes a deadly shot and handle. Michael has been consistently ranked as one of the top high school players in country at the guard position with his phenomenal agility. He is a four time All-League and three time All-New England selection. His ability to penetrate to the basket, but also score from the outside makes him a tough match-up for any opponent. The three time CO-MVP of his team is also a Mr. Basketball candidate. Michael will join one of the top recruiting classes in 2003 at the University of Maryland next season.

Direct from ESPN you idiot. (this would mean he is indeed top 75)

#24. Mike Jones 6-4 SG Thayer Academy/
Braintree, Mass.

#37. Ekene Ibekwe 6-9 PF Carson H.S./
Carson, Calif.

Hey, I never said Duke didn't have impressive numbers. I did say that with the overwhelming talent they bring in, the last two year's have been a bust.

I am simply amazed that you can articulate anything with your head so far up your ******. I'm gonna keep digging my hole because I know one day I'll be able to kick you in it.

ps. Please do your best to again avoid that you are so obviously wrong as usual. I'm at least man enough to admit when I am wrong.
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It's just as predictable as the sun rising, a Maryland fan will start a seemingly intelligent discussion for as long as their brain can keep from busting and then they start making fun of someone's appearance and then it quickly goes to using obscenities and calling people names.
It's a sure bet.

doh :laugh:
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nate jonesacc Wrote:Coach K has recruited 2 questionable students... name others, please...
william avery...

want some more?
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Coach Doh Wrote:It's just as predictable as the sun rising, a Maryland fan will start a seemingly intelligent discussion for as long as their brain can keep from busting and then they start making fun of someone's appearance and then it quickly goes to using obscenities and calling people names.
It's a sure bet.

doh :laugh:
Doh...It's only fitting that a MD fan would resort to obsenities and name calling when a Duke fan brings it first. You might want to read a little higher on the board. I can't help if Duke fans can't handle the back-lash of their own trash talking. As for the brain busting....there isn't a Duke fan in here that could bring that on. I do find it interesting how you Duke fan's overlook "a seemingly intelligent discussion" when it doesn't go Dukes way.
I find it especially interesting how Nate chooses not to respond to obvious facts that I provide that prove his tainted views wrong.

Stick with your buddy and waist someone else's time.
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kaisersayzo Wrote:
Coach Doh Wrote:It's just as predictable as the sun rising, a Maryland fan will start a seemingly intelligent discussion for as long as their brain can keep from busting and then they start making fun of someone's appearance and then it quickly goes to using obscenities and calling people names.  
 It's a sure bet.  

doh :laugh:
Doh...It's only fitting that a MD fan would resort to obsenities and name calling when a Duke fan brings it first. You might want to read a little higher on the board. I can't help if Duke fans can't handle the back-lash of their own trash talking. As for the brain busting....there isn't a Duke fan in here that could bring that on. I do find it interesting how you Duke fan's overlook "a seemingly intelligent discussion" when it doesn't go Dukes way.
I find it especially interesting how Nate chooses not to respond to obvious facts that I provide that prove his tainted views wrong.

Stick with your buddy and waist someone else's time.

Please tell me what your whole point was. All I could get from what you posted with all your statistics was that Maryland was a better team than the one they finished behind in the conference for the last 5 years.
How does that work?

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nate jonesacc Wrote:Coach K has recruited 2 questionable students... name others, please...
william avery...

want some more?
William Avery and Sean Dockery are the 2... more please.
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nate jonesacc,Apr 15 2003, 11:29 AM Wrote:Grant Hill is the best player ever to come out of Duke's halls. What does that have to do with the future of MD vs. Duke though? Remember Steve Francis?
Remember the names... Luol Deng and Grant Hill. BTW... who is Steve Francis? Ask Chris Carawell... he might remember him.

Last time I checked the reports, Deng is listed as an inside player. Jones won the three point contest while being listed as an all-around scorer. Please don't remind me that Duhon won it. Old news and I think you know that he has faultered ever since getting such high praises. Deng is a Grant Hill clone. He can play inside... however... his strengths are on the wings and in transition. Jones wasn'ttop 75 player and was not a McDonald's AA.

Duke has two great recruits this year and I would be SHOCKED if they weren't good players (they have to be). The arguement here seems to always stray from the fact that MD gets less respect in recruiting and does more with what they get than Duke does. Duke gets the best and should be the best. So why aren't they consistently the best? Coaching perhaps? Duke isn't consistently the best? WTF? Duke has won the ACC tournament 5 straight years... and has won the ACC Regular season 5 out of the last 7 years. In the past 5 years, Duke has been to 2 FFs, been ranked #1 in every year, won an NC, and been at least to the sweet 16 every year. Duke's overall record in the past 5 years is something like 190-25. Look at the last line in my sig for more info. You're an idiot.

I'm not going to lie and say Duke sucks...they don't. I just find it humorous when un-educated arrogant Duke fans look past the obvious truth that MD is not going away because of superior coaching. We could argue for years and while Sweaty Gary is coaching MD, Duke will have someone to knock them down off their slippery pedastal. And while MD has success against the over-televised "powerhouse" that is Duke, they will slowly and surely be attracting the recruits that only Duke would have had a chance of getting (Michael Jones - highest recruit in the history of MD basketball would only be considered a 3rd best in a typical Duke recruiting year). Someday when there is a level player playing field, the better coached team will prevail even more so. If only it was that simple...

And while we are at it, didn't Duke (the team that should have won it all the year before) choke in the sweet 16 again? Say what you want about the teams MD faced in the tourney, the end result was no worse than last year's Duke dump. The result was no worse than Coach K relying on a freshman to carry their team past Kansas this year (1-12 from the 3). Bad coaching. Only a Maryland fan would consider a 3 seed losing to a 2 seed as a choke... LMFAO!! Keep diggin that hole buddy!
Please nuke this guy.
Direct from the McDonald's AA web site you F*cking moron.

Starting for the East Team.

MICHAEL JONES
Thayer Academy - Braintree, MA
Guard - 6'5 - 195 Pounds
University of Maryland

Michael is a slender but smooth shooting guard out of the talented New England prep school league. At 6'5, Michael has a versatile arsenal that includes a deadly shot and handle. Michael has been consistently ranked as one of the top high school players in country at the guard position with his phenomenal agility. He is a four time All-League and three time All-New England selection. His ability to penetrate to the basket, but also score from the outside makes him a tough match-up for any opponent. The three time CO-MVP of his team is also a Mr. Basketball candidate. Michael will join one of the top recruiting classes in 2003 at the University of Maryland next season.

Direct from ESPN you idiot. (this would mean he is indeed top 75)

#24. Mike Jones 6-4 SG Thayer Academy/
Braintree, Mass.

#37. Ekene Ibekwe 6-9 PF Carson H.S./
Carson, Calif.

Hey, I never said Duke didn't have impressive numbers. I did say that with the overwhelming talent they bring in, the last two year's have been a bust.

I am simply amazed that you can articulate anything with your head so far up your ******. I'm gonna keep digging my hole because I know one day I'll be able to kick you in it.

ps. Please do your best to again avoid that you are so obviously wrong as usual. I'm at least man enough to admit when I am wrong.[/quote]
LOL... OK... so you lump player X in WITH A BUNCH OF DUKE GUYS AND GIVE HIM THE LAST NAME JONES. Somehow, I'm supposed to think this guy is Michael Jones, and not Duke superstar Dahntay Jones? :rolleyes:

Dahntay Jones was not a top 75 player, you moron. :rolleyes:

Michael Jones is/was.
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nate jonesacc Wrote:LOL... OK... so you lump player X in WITH A BUNCH OF DUKE GUYS AND GIVE HIM THE LAST NAME JONES. Somehow, I'm supposed to think this guy is Michael Jones, and not Duke superstar Dahntay Jones? :rolleyes:

Dahntay Jones was not a top 75 player, you moron. :rolleyes:

Michael Jones is/was.
I would think your enormous Duke brain could decipher the difference between the name Michael (or just Mike) and Dahntay. Oh and by the way, calling Dahntay Jones a "superstar" is a huge stretch. He is a good/solid player at best. Usually a "superstar" would at least lead the conference (if not the NCAA) in scoring or anything for that matter (he lead in nothing and was fifth in scoring). You do realize I'm talking about Dahntay Jones right? I guess under your wise assesment, Drew Nicholas would be a super-superstar? (I'm not even dumb enough to state that)

Perhaps next time we talk I should include pictures so you know who I am really talking about. I wouldn't want you to confuse Daniel Ewing with Patrick Ewing or anything.

I think we see who the moron is here.

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