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If this is about the C-USA versus the MAC then I agree that the MAC is better.
06-17-2003 01:52 PM
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georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:
bgnormals Wrote:ACC has the best players money can buy :D
I'm sorry -- you seem to be lost.

Perhaps you meant to be here: <a href='http://www.secbbs.com' target='_blank'>http://www.secbbs.com</a>
Go easy on him. He believed the Marshall guys who told us they'd be in the ACC in time for the 2000 season.
06-17-2003 02:24 PM
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GDawgs88 Wrote:If this is about the C-USA versus the MAC then I agree that the MAC is better.
It's not really about anything actually. I just made a statement that anything is possible on a given day. I used FSU losing to Louisville and Marshall beating Louisville as an example.

I did not mean that to be a statement that the MAC was better than C-USA (although I do believe the MAC is) nor that the MAC is better than the ACC.

I agree that ACC teams are going to have more depth and be consistently better than MAC teams. Although again you could take the top teams in the MAC and put them up against the worst teams in the ACC and the MAC teams could play with them on a consistent basis. However, the top MAC teams could not play with the top ACC teams on a consistent basis.

Anyway, something tells me that this thread has become a little stupid.
06-17-2003 06:24 PM
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rocketfootball Wrote:
Paul Wrote:I don't buy the "superior" talk for a moment.

However, ALL Division I schools can compete
with anybody "on the proverbial given day"

The biggest difference between BCS leagues and
mid-majors is depth.&nbsp; (quality depth)

In recent years Toledo has "whipped" Purdue and
Penn St.&nbsp; Miami, O has had some quality wins.&nbsp; Marshall
has excelled in Bowls.

Perhaps one of the greatest MAC claims to fame would
be the three consecutive Tangerine Bowl wins that
Miami, O had in the mid-70's.&nbsp; Defeating...South
Carolina, Georgia and Florida.

But what places the ACC above the MAC is quality
depth.&nbsp; No MAC team would be able to compete
week to week, because they just do not have enough
quality players, to contend with injuries and what-nots
that occur during a season.

It takes 66 quality players to compete at the BCS
level week-to-week.

Which is why Florida State totally dominated the ACC
for the first 10 years.&nbsp; Now the rest of the league
has finally caught up in depth.&nbsp; and it ain't as easy as
it used to be...with the exception of Duke, Wake Forest
and, of course, Maryland!!!!

Maryland is playing 2 MAC schools this year, instead
of the traditional 1.&nbsp; I guess they thought the Wofford
would be "ready" with a rematch...huh?

MAC "far superior"...No, not in your wildest dreams...but the MAC "big boys" can compete with
anybody...(On a Given Day)
You are right Paul! And if a Toledo or Marshall was able to move into a BCS conference we would easily be able to get the same quality recruits and depth. It's all about where you play and how much attention the media gives you.

Of course, this is also why MAC teams do good in the NCAA tournament in basketball. It is a lot easier to win a few games in a row against strong competition than it is to win against them all season long. That is the magic, motivation, and interest the NCAA basketball tournament gives to millions of people.

That is also why there should be a football playoff instead of the BCS! There really is no cinderella in college football because an undefeated Toledo or Marshall will not make the BCS, not alone the National Championship Game!
Yep...

And that is exactly why...there will never be a
National Playoff in College Football.

So much lore, and BS...

#1 The Bowls would suffer. Hogwash, the minor
bowls would flourish. They would have far more
quality teams...rather than all these 6-5 squads.

#2 When the NCAA votes...ALL the schools vote.
Any attempt by the BCS, to have a sanctioned playoff
after the bowls will be soundly defeated. If I were
from a MAC, MWC, WAC, C-USA, whatever...I would
vote against it. Why vote for something that puts
a thumb on you.

#3 How would you select teams. SIMPLE. The
beauty of College Football..."The season means
something!" It doesn't mean squat in Basketball.
They play the regular season for one thing and one
thing only..."To seed the Conf. Tourney's!"
Play 10 cupcakes, a couple of decent intersectional games
and go .500 in the league and your in.

The best way to select the teams...(And Simplest)
Take the Conference Champs. That's it. None of this
"at-large crap.

Logic will tell you...that a playoff is an elimination process.

You eliminate 106 teams in the regular season.

That leaves the 11 conf champs.

A committe seeds those 11 teams (only time "human
hands" are involved.

EXAMPLE:

1st Round: Game 1 MAC vs C-USA
Game 2 WAC vs MWC
Game 3 Sun Belt vs ACC

Quarter Finals: G1Winner vs Big 10 (Game 4)
G2 Winner vs PAC 10 (Game 5)

G3 Winner vs SEC (Game 6)
Big East vs Big 12 (Game 7)

Semi's G4W vs G5W (Game 8)
G6W vs G7W (Game 9)

Finals: G8W vs G9W

Let everybody go to the bowls...Bowls wouldn't mean
anything? I gotta tell ya...There ain't but one bowl game that "means" anything right now...Where the Nat Championship game is being played.

The solution is simple, but so to...is the problem...MONEY

And the 6 BCS leagues..."Ain't gonna share!"
06-18-2003 02:44 AM
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rocketfootball
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Nice playoff format. The difference that I would make is put the Big East in the game against the Sun Belt and give the ACC the bye. Especially if there is expansion in the ACC; and even if it is just Miami going to the ACC.
06-18-2003 08:01 AM
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rocketfootball Wrote:Nice playoff format. The difference that I would make is put the Big East in the game against the Sun Belt and give the ACC the bye. Especially if there is expansion in the ACC; and even if it is just Miami going to the ACC.
That's how I would have seeded them last year.

'Noles lost to Miami...

Of the 6 BCS Champs last year...Fla St would have
been seeded there.

But it would change on a yearly basis.
06-18-2003 09:29 PM
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