Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Duke Lacrosse
Author Message
oldbronco1 Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 565
Joined: Aug 2006
Reputation: 0
I Root For: WMU/Alabama
Location: Southeast of disorder
Post: #41
 
I apologize in advance if I come off as an azzhole. It just seems in consistant. I don't like Imus, I used to like stern when I was younger but I grew out of it. They are more alike than they are different. Both want to play on the edge. Did Imus mean harm? probably not. Did he cause harm? yes. Could CBS, Imus, the Rutgers players, coaches, and admins could have handled it. As soon as Sharpton and JJ get involved the issues become clouded. I have said it a million time MLK jr. would slap the **** out of JJ if he was alive today. JJ is a piece of crap that was able to get close to MLK and has used that to his advantage. Imus should have had to sit infront of each one of those girls until the girls were satisfied. CBS and les are responsible to their shareholders. The market would have taken care of Imus.

Duke Lax hard to find a decent ADULT in the whole situation. Were all the kids at fault? hell ya. Did they commit misdomenor crimes? probably. The girls were providing a legit service that is legal. Obviously the accuser is off her rocker. Nifong should be disbarred. Being a prossecuter is tough but you can't run for election based on a case that was not a case. College kids are going to drink underage and do other things they are not supposed to. I don't think athletes do it at a disproportionate amount compared to regular students. We did lots of things wrong when I was playing at wmu. Kids got in trouble, it happens. Not as extreme as this or toledo or purdue but it happens. We have had a football player kill a swan and we had one accused of killing a dog then trying to bury it. I was there he did not kill it but he was drunk and tried to bury it. He got into a good bit of trouble. The guy is a damn doctor now. Liam I think you have to lighten up on the fact that college kids are going to do things they are not supposed to do but that does not make them bad people.

Damn drugs keeping me up half the night typing about this crap :microwave:
04-12-2007 11:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Chipdip1 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,679
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 37
I Root For:
Location:

Donators
Post: #42
 
[Image: MLKbalcony_000.jpg]

Jesse was in the right place at the right time. Happened to be on the balcony when MLK was killed, and two months later he was ordained a minister. He was off to the races with his own newly created industry. He has managed to extort enough out of corporate America to keep his family rich for a long long time. Got his kid set up with his own beverage distributorship.

I personally dont fault Jesse for it. What I fault him for is not being up front about his true agenda. Operation PUSH????? Laughable. It's operation line Jesse's pockets. I'd respect him more if he'd just own up to what he really does.
04-13-2007 12:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #43
 
oldbronco1 Wrote:Liam, you bashed the hell out of Imus for calling someone "nappy headed hoes" yet in this thread you call a women of color a "hooker". What makes you different than Imus?

I didn't bash the hell out of anyone, I never even said he should have been fired. I said his remarks were mean spirited and ignorant. This "woman of color," was a hooker not a colllege basketball player. Call her a stripper if you want, but lets face it she was booked through an escort service. You are really reaching on this one ob1, to try and make a link between the two. Imus called student athletes who he had never met a derogatory name. I am refering to a woman whose profession is known. For you to even attempt to make that connection shows a certain desperation to change the subject.
04-13-2007 07:40 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Motown Bronco Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,858
Joined: Jul 2002
Reputation: 188
I Root For: WMU
Location: Metro Detroit
Post: #44
 
NJ's governer Jon Corzine was seriously injured in a vehicle crash. Thank God no brain damage, and he'll be fine.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/3404...07.article

He was en route to a meeting between Imus and the Rutgers players. I'm wondering why a face-to-face apology from an aging shock jock to a few college students requires the presence of the highest-ranked governing official in the state? I'm sure Corzine's advisors thought it'd score some warm-fuzzy political points, but there's really no need for him to be part of it.
04-13-2007 08:21 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #45
 
Photo opps often bring politicans to places where there would seem to be no need for them. I Seem to recall one on an aircraft carrier not to long ago.
04-13-2007 08:35 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Motown Bronco Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,858
Joined: Jul 2002
Reputation: 188
I Root For: WMU
Location: Metro Detroit
Post: #46
 
Liam9903 Wrote:Photo opps often bring politicans to places where there would seem to be no need for them. I Seem to recall one on an aircraft carrier not to long ago.

True, he didn't 'need' to be on the aircraft carrier, spending taxpayer money in the process for what was basically a photo opp.

But despite what anyone thinks of his foreign policy, Bush is the commander in chief of the armed forces, so at least there's an official connection there. NJ's governor has no association to Imus nor Rutgers' women basketball players whatsoever.
04-13-2007 08:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #47
 
Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.
04-13-2007 08:51 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
connerito Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,179
Joined: Feb 2005
Reputation: 0
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #48
 
Liam9903 Wrote:Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.

And Hillary is there for what ?
04-13-2007 09:02 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
moe24 Offline
Original Lawson Lunatic
*

Posts: 3,503
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 43
I Root For: WMU
Location: Plainwell, MI
Post: #49
 
connerito Wrote:And Hillary is there for what ?
To pretend she cares.
04-13-2007 09:04 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Motown Bronco Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,858
Joined: Jul 2002
Reputation: 188
I Root For: WMU
Location: Metro Detroit
Post: #50
 
Quote:Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.

It's a bit of a stretch. If Drew & Mike insulted a Bronco player using a racial term then wanted to meet with her to apologize, I might expect Haenicke to get involved, but I wouldn't see the point of Granholm jumping in her car and driving to Kalamazoo.

But I definitely agree with your overall point, though, about photo opps and neverending campaigns.
04-13-2007 09:04 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #51
 
connerito Wrote:
Liam9903 Wrote:Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.

And Hillary is there for what ?

Not that I feel like defending Hillary but she is running for president. Every presidential candidate has weighed in on this at some level. Maybe she is after Sharptons endorsement, who knows. She is a politican doing what politicans do, pandoring to voters. I find it amusing when people accuse politicans of playing politics. Its as if we are constantly disappointed to find out that all of these carefuly staged media events might actually be designed to get peoples attention, votes, and money. Everyone who is serious about holding office does it. During 9/11 our president was in the middle of a photo opp with school children, a few days later he is in NYC for a photo opp on top of the WTC rubble. Did he really need to be at either? Probably not but that is what we expect from politicans. It is to the point where we are critical of them if they don't go places. For instance when Bush didn't get to New Orleans soon enough after Katrina. Its a big game that everybody plays and it is silly for us to get worked up over it.
04-13-2007 09:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bronco79 Offline
Bench Warmer
*

Posts: 181
Joined: Apr 2005
Reputation: 0
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #52
 
Quote:As soon as you make a statement like that you show your true colors. You started the post saying, we should be able to look at both sides and decide for ourselves. But that was basically bullspit because you end the post with Foxnews this and foxnews that. The far extremes of both sides are nutty as a fruit cake. I try to decide each case or issue on its merit but when you basically say that if you agree with something foxnews says you are a mindless zombie. You have taken out any room for debate. Its a cheap shot and has nothing to do with your original topic.

OB1 - I see the argument you are making but I don't buy it...and here's why. The ONLY reason I took the cheap shot at the end was because a thread about the Duke Lax players was turned into something else completely by someone bringing up the Liberal media and how they are to blame. We all know that only one cable news station goes on and on about that every day. I give you my word that if someone had chosen to use talking points from Keith Olbermann's show my cheap shot would have gone the other way.

So, with that all said, you can see how I was using that to actually bolster my original argument, rather than to discredit it.
04-13-2007 09:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
connerito Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,179
Joined: Feb 2005
Reputation: 0
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #53
 
Liam9903 Wrote:
connerito Wrote:
Liam9903 Wrote:Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.

And Hillary is there for what ?

Not that I feel like defending Hillary but she is running for president. Every presidential candidate has weighed in on this at some level. Maybe she is after Sharptons endorsement, who knows. She is a politican doing what politicans do, pandoring to voters. I find it amusing when people accuse politicans of playing politics. Its as if we are constantly disappointed to find out that all of these carefuly staged media events might actually be designed to get peoples attention, votes, and money. Everyone who is serious about holding office does it. During 9/11 our president was in the middle of a photo opp with school children, a few days later he is in NYC for a photo opp on top of the WTC rubble. Did he really need to be at either? Probably not but that is what we expect from politicans. It is to the point where we are critical of them if they don't go places. For instance when Bush didn't get to New Orleans soon enough after Katrina. Its a big game that everybody plays and it is silly for us to get worked up over it.

Airtran has direct flights into North Carolina should she desire to look at the criminality of what went on down there.

In addition I don't remember her going down to NJ after hearing the governors young homosexual lover headed up NJ's Homeland Security as compensation for his romantic friendship immediately after 9/11,.
04-13-2007 09:59 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ESSSS Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,707
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 38
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #54
 
Quote:And Hillary is there for what ?

Women voters.

She is surprisingly unpopular with that demographic!
04-13-2007 10:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #55
 
connerito Wrote:
Liam9903 Wrote:
connerito Wrote:
Liam9903 Wrote:Well Rutgers is the State University of New Jersey and he IS the governor of New Jersey so he does have a connection

I really do think that politicans waste enough money on photo opps every year to end world famine. It s just a way to use free media in a never ending campaign for attention. Just the nature of politics and government.

And Hillary is there for what ?

Not that I feel like defending Hillary but she is running for president. Every presidential candidate has weighed in on this at some level. Maybe she is after Sharptons endorsement, who knows. She is a politican doing what politicans do, pandoring to voters. I find it amusing when people accuse politicans of playing politics. Its as if we are constantly disappointed to find out that all of these carefuly staged media events might actually be designed to get peoples attention, votes, and money. Everyone who is serious about holding office does it. During 9/11 our president was in the middle of a photo opp with school children, a few days later he is in NYC for a photo opp on top of the WTC rubble. Did he really need to be at either? Probably not but that is what we expect from politicans. It is to the point where we are critical of them if they don't go places. For instance when Bush didn't get to New Orleans soon enough after Katrina. Its a big game that everybody plays and it is silly for us to get worked up over it.

Airtran has direct flights into North Carolina should she desire to look at the criminality of what went on down there.

In addition I don't remember her going down to NJ after hearing the governors young homosexual lover headed up NJ's Homeland Security as compensation for his romantic friendship immediately after 9/11, which appeared to have a much greater effect the safety of her nation.

I guess Hillary Clinton is responsible for those things too because she didn't go down there for a photo op eh Dip...excuse me Connerito. I'm sure that there is alot of "criminality," that goes on in North Carolina, but I'm not sure why anyone would rest easier at night if Hillary Clinton was down there getting her picture taken. The Duke lacrosse players are still a bunch of thugs btw, so I wouldn't throw around words like criminality when coming to their defense. Their rap sheet is still longer than Nifongs who is going to get whats coming to him.

I guess she carefully choses where to be in order to gain votes, and attention. What a shocking revelation. I hope other politicans don't pick up on this new trend she started.
04-13-2007 10:11 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
moe24 Offline
Original Lawson Lunatic
*

Posts: 3,503
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 43
I Root For: WMU
Location: Plainwell, MI
Post: #56
 
ESSSS Wrote:
Quote:And Hillary is there for what ?

Women voters.

She is surprisingly unpopular with that demographic!
Not at all surprising. She is hated equally by everyone not trying to be a hanger-on and big-money donor.
04-13-2007 10:18 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
connerito Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,179
Joined: Feb 2005
Reputation: 0
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #57
 
Liam,
Have a nice day.
04-13-2007 10:24 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Liam9903 Offline
Field Marshal
*

Posts: 4,253
Joined: Jul 2006
Reputation: 80
I Root For: WesternMichigan
Location: Lake Michigan
Post: #58
 
I'm having a beautiful day thanks.

04-wine
04-13-2007 10:26 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2019 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2019 MyBB Group.