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B.S.

The coach got fired because the limp wristed PC president cant fire the players. Coach was the closest thing he could find to the players, so in order to look good on the cocktail circuit with his leftist buds in academia, he fired the coach. Ya think if Coach K's players were in the same situation Kr$%*&&*^**&ski gets canned?????? Hell no.

Reminds me of when a similar limpwristed PC puzzy at K-College gave Joe Haklin the ziggy. Joe didnt fit in with the rest of mush mouth PC nerds at K-College. He took his players to task when they made mistakes, and the sissified prez just couldnt stomach it. Never mind that Joe won, and K hasnt won since. All is well at K now. Like the prez at Puke, the K College folks exacted their pound of flesh in order to make things right with their PC pals at their lefty cocktail clubs.
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You certainly do have it all figured out. Do you ever find it difficult to lump every situation in to an indictment on the liberal PC establishment?

You also have a real talent for changing any discussion into something else so that it is more comfortable and consistent with your point of view. You have tried to discuss every element of this case except the conduct of the players, and that is what ultimately put them in this position.
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Chipdip1 Wrote:B.S.

The coach got fired because the limp wristed PC president cant fire the players. Coach was the closest thing he could find to the players, so in order to look good on the cocktail circuit with his leftist buds in academia, he fired the coach. Ya think if Coach K's players were in the same situation Kr$%*&&*^**&ski gets canned?????? Hell no.

Reminds me of when a similar limpwristed PC puzzy at K-College gave Joe Haklin the ziggy. Joe didnt fit in with the rest of mush mouth PC nerds at K-College. He took his players to task when they made mistakes, and the sissified prez just couldnt stomach it. Never mind that Joe won, and K hasnt won since. All is well at K now. Like the prez at Puke, the K College folks exacted their pound of flesh in order to make things right with their PC pals at their lefty cocktail clubs.

So you're a leftist if you think your coach didn't crack down and you're a PC puzzy if you think your coach cracked down too hard? I must be missing something.

P.S. the death penalty for dook lax mustn't have been too bad. Last I checked they were #3 in the computer rankings and #4 in the polls ahead of the likes of UVA, Johns Hopkins, Maryland, 'Cuse, and Navy.
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I find it laughable that you are fixating on an athetic team having a stripper at a party, but appear oblivious to the fact that someone perpetrated a lie that would have thrown the average Joe (someone without the resources to hire gobs of attorneys) in prison for 30 years.

This is not an issue of "class." They are rich, therefore they are evil. She is poor, therefore she is pure. This is an issue of truth vs. lies.

If someone told a lie that cost you your job, should you still be consided the villian, because you had once smoked a joint, and in the same year had sex out of wedlock?

That fornecatting pothead, he deserved to lose his job.
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I am wondering how many people can say that they did not do dumb things while drinking in college. I think dumb and drunk walk hand in hand. To say these kids have no fault is faulty logic. To say the women who did this work is a saint is a faulty logic as well. She knew what she did for a living.

There was a lot of stupid people, doing things for themselves and their school. At the time it seemed the right thing to do. An example being firing the coach and getting rid of the kids. This should rest on the shoulders of the prosecution who misled the school, the state and many others with his statements and hiding of evidence. Will the school be held responsible and have to pay out millions? I like the odds. Will the girl ever be held accountable? Not likely, because she has some heavy hitters in her corner and she is a minority. Will Nilfong be held accountable? You bet.... Though the state will be the financially hit party in all this. The kids will be well off from the suits they will settle. I am sure these "poor" little boys with all their money will make it in life. Heck if anything the stupid girl may get an education via Jesse Jackson and make something of herself. Keep you fingers crossed!
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The coach got fired because it came out amongst all this that his team was breaking NCAA rules. Don't make it more than it was Ann.

Kind of like Wilkinson getting fired back when, his team was breaking rules, living in his house, and it came out when something went wrong. How it goes.

I've seen good people lose their jobs for a lot less, nobody's exempt. Ask Imus about job security....
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Quote:The coach got fired because it came out amongst all this that his team was breaking NCAA rules.
Link please
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Quote:Ask Imus about job security....
That's a great point. Since Imus has been making these kinds of statements for years, shouldn't the execs at CBS get the ziggy for allowing the behavior to go unchecked????? I mean, if the coach at Duke gets the ziggy for his players behavior, doesnt the management at CBS deserve the same treatment. Don's a dumbazz and likely got what he deserved, but others should take the fall with him.

Must be a slow newsday, or maybe anything that happens in NYC is BIG NEWS according to the media cesspool of a America. Imus is on only 60 stations nationwide. His rating have been tanking for years. Not sure why anyone outside of NY should even care about this. Anyhow, it's always a pleasure to watch the left eat their own.
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Some accounts say that he actually resigned the day the president suspended lax for the season, the team had been in trouble quite often before this incident, he either was fired due to the teams poor behavior or forced to resign depending upon whose account you choose to believe. In the interviews that have followed, it was depicted as a 'last straw' type of deal when it came to those guys acting as a group and getting in trouble.

So you think that CBS execs should be held to the same standards that the NCAA holds their coaches when it comes to student athletes behavior? I don't think that to be right, and I don't see that as a parallel. Corporate world is one thing, college coaches and their student athletes are quite another, but if he's not accountable, and you feel that he shouldn't be when his team had a history of acting up as a team, then who is accountable?

If that's the case, then BK is off the hook? That would make arro right? 05-stirthepot

As far as Imus, I didn't know he was a leftist, I thought he was just an idiot and that he catered to the lowest common denominator. Nothing more, and not to be taken seriously.

I still don't think he should be fired, but that's my personal take, not because I like the man.

Where does it say Imus is leans towards the left?
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Imus a lib???? You're kidding right?

Imus was on WKMI for 4 years. I listened to him regularly. Even saw him do his show from the State Theater. Imus is an a-hole, but his staff is pretty funny. As to the I-man being a lib. He endorsed Dems damn near exclusively. He was a Kerry man to the end.

Imus was an equal opportunity insulter. But politically, when it came to endorsements, he almost always leaned left.
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Guess I didn't know and didn't care, his humor didn't appeal to me, but then, I thought that Dick the Bruiser was funny back then.....
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Chipdip1 Wrote:Imus a lib???? You're kidding right?

Imus was on WKMI for 4 years. I listened to him regularly. Even saw him do his show from the State Theater. Imus is an a-hole, but his staff is pretty funny. As to the I-man being a lib. He endorsed Dems damn near exclusively. He was a Kerry man to the end.

Imus was an equal opportunity insulter. But politically, when it came to endorsements, he almost always leaned left.

In an interview, Imus stated he was personally very conservative.
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I actually thought that I had heard that about him too, but I wasn't sure.
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The I-man tried to play every side of the fence, but you always knew come election time where his heart was. Like I said, he was an equal opportunity offender up until a month before the general election. Goes with the territory. You cant live on Central Park West and be a conservative, it's not permitted.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/...-headlines

The La times sure thinks that it is a big loss for liberals. Mainly because he gave them a place to be heard. Talk radio is not too friendly to the left. Imus had many, many people from the left on. Now they have very few outlets(radio) to be heard.
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Personally, I don't see why anyone would want to listen to, or watch, news that was slanted right OR left. Isn't the true mark of intelligence the ability to hear both sides of an argument and draw your own conclusions of the truth (which usually lies somewhere in the middle)???

I fully understand that each outlet is trying to market to a specific demographic to get ratings but you can't get an accurate portrayal of men by watching the Oxygen channel. Similarly, you can't understand world politics by listening/watching Ann Culter any better than you can by watching Olbermann.

How the heck did this thread become about politics anyway? Did Fox News give some commentary about the case (because they rarely report straight fact) that someone felt the need to regurgitate? While I personally don't care for Fox News they sure are damn effective at getting 30% of the public to say the same $hit they say. Amazing.
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Quote:Did Fox News give some commentary about the case (because they rarely report straight fact) that someone felt the need to regurgitate? While I personally don't care for Fox News they sure are damn effective at getting 30% of the public to say the same $hit they say. Amazing.

As soon as you make a statement like that you show your true colors. You started the post saying, we should be able to look at both sides and decide for ourselves. But that was basically bullspit because you end the post with Foxnews this and foxnews that. 03-melodramatic The far extremes of both sides are nutty as a fruit cake. I try to decide each case or issue on its merit but when you basically say that if you agree with something foxnews says you are a mindless zombie. You have taken out any room for debate. Its a cheap shot and has nothing to do with your original topic.
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Liam, you bashed the hell out of Imus for calling someone "nappy headed hoes" yet in this thread you call a women of color a "hooker". What makes you different than Imus?
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Imus regularly shilled for Chris Dodd, John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Pat Leahey, on the left side of the isle.

Jim Bunning, John McCain, Joe Lieberman, were moderates who were always treated kindly.

On the right he gave Pat Buchanan and Orin Hatch got a free pass.

He did a nice job of mocking Ted Kennedy and Dick Nixon. He's been off the air here for nearly two years, so I'm not sure how he felt about Hillary carpet bagging NY.

There was never a strong lean to the left, but his wife was a huge lib (admittedly so), and as I stated he always came out of the Dems in the final month.

He'll resurface somewhere in NY, and will likely be successful in that market again. National syndication likely wont happen, but it was dying for him anyway.
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