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I kind of like this thought. You can not say that attendance would not be much higher. Travel costs offset by actual participation in TV package. For Sports other than Football and Basketball it would suck, so that would be the stopper.
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Been there, done that, bad move IMO. The travel costs would be astronomical. If we can't get our way, way overdue football facility built, we're certainly not in a financial situation conducive to making this kind of move.

We're in the MAC for the time being, regardless of what the prognosticators are suggesting. If we get our act together, maybe in a few years we could look at this kind of thing, but right now it'd be premature.

And please, none of this nonsense about "it may not be possible in a few years". Things in college sports are almost certain to remain in flux for many, many years to come, particularly if the NCAA actually decides to enforce these ridiculous attendance requirements.
01-23-2004 11:50 AM
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Anybody catch whiff of the garbage on the general MAC board? Yet another uninformed "rumor" that NIU is contemplating a conference switch. Stupid things like this take on a life of their own. Is there nothing else "real" we can talk about, say for instance our lousy basketball team or how good our football program has become?

Way too many morons with way too much time on their hands.
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niu85alum Wrote:Anybody catch whiff of the garbage on the general MAC board? Yet another uninformed "rumor" that NIU is contemplating a conference switch. Stupid things like this take on a life of their own. Is there nothing else "real" we can talk about, say for instance our lousy basketball team or how good our football program has become?

Way too many morons with way too much time on their hands.
The discussions about the conference switching hullaballoo are endless on the MAC board, partly because of the inclusion of Marshall and UCF fans, and partly due to the anxiety about the prospective NCAA attendance regs. Most of the discussions, are actually pretty interesting and informative (unlike so many similiar exercises on the other NIU boards 03-banghead 03-banghead :rolleyes: 03-puke ) , although there are invariably yahoos who chime in with some whacked out ideas.

That said, I think the idea of CUSA potentially being interested in NIU is not that implausible. They're losing their foothold in Chicago with the departure of DePaul, and I'm sure they'd love to retain that market, particularly with a school which is potentially an up and coming powerhouse in football.
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I don't disagree with your contention. But a dose of reality is needed too. The fact is CUSA is crumbling and the MAC is steadily improving, especially in football which plays very nicely to developments with Joe Novak and crew in DeKalb. Plus, whether we care to admit it or not, the world doesn't view NIU as a "Chicago" school. NIU and DePaul are vastly different schools who cater to a vastly different fan base.

Something else to consider is that the foundation of CUSA has always been in basketball, not really football. How could CUSA possibly be attracted to an NIU basketball program that has always been fairly lousy, has spit for media coverage, and has very little real fan base? I know the equation would change for the better if we were in CUSA, but still...
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Flying Corn Wrote:
niu85alum Wrote:Anybody catch whiff of the garbage on the general MAC board?&nbsp; Yet another uninformed "rumor" that NIU is contemplating a conference switch.&nbsp; Stupid things like this take on a life of their own.&nbsp; Is there nothing else "real" we can talk about, say for instance our lousy basketball team or how good our football program has become?&nbsp;

Way too many morons with way too much time on their hands.
The discussions about the conference switching hullaballoo are endless on the MAC board, partly because of the inclusion of Marshall and UCF fans, and partly due to the anxiety about the prospective NCAA attendance regs. Most of the discussions, are actually pretty interesting and informative (unlike so many similiar exercises on the other NIU boards 03-banghead 03-banghead :rolleyes: 03-puke ) , although there are invariably yahoos who chime in with some whacked out ideas.

That said, I think the idea of CUSA potentially being interested in NIU is not that implausible. They're losing their foothold in Chicago with the departure of DePaul, and I'm sure they'd love to retain that market, particularly with a school which is potentially an up and coming powerhouse in football.
Even if NIU were to go to the CUSA, the CUSA would still not have a foothold in the Chicago market. Remember...we are NOT a Chicago team! The media still wouldn't consider us worthy unless, of course, we were to join the Big 10, which will never happen. 05-nono
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Don't get me wrong, I understand the reality of our demographics, but keep in mind part of our frustration as NIU fans has ALWAYS been the fact the school has never really tapped into it's potential as a Chicago school.

This year's Huskie football team gave us a glimpse into the possibilities. I'm sure CUSA is looking at the attention and excitement generated by our football team and is looking at us as a school with tremendous untapped potential athletically.

Yeah, CUSA is about hoops, and we suck right now in hoops, but again, the potential is there. We've historically been a better basketball school than a football school, and we do have a sparkling state-of-the-art hoops facility.
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Yeah, CUSA is about hoops, and we suck right now in hoops, but again, the potential is there. We've historically been a better basketball school than a football school, and we do have a sparkling state-of-the-art hoops facility.




Yeah, a sparkling new facility with about 1,000 true blue fans. If there is more then 2,500 at any remaining home game, I will fall on the floor. NIU box scores can't possibly be buried any lower in the Chicago Tribune.

Right now, things ain't pretty in hoops. Lets hope Tate and Pancratz attract fans from Homewood Flossmor and the Schaumburg area next year. Maybe then there will be enough for NIU to attract another "big" advertiser to kick in $50 bucks to rent another sign in the joint.

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It is moronic not to check out every opportunity as it presents itself. It will never happen, but I would stop supporting the program if they at least did not check it out. Come back and tell me it is fiscally not doable even with the increased revenues, and I will say good job.
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The point is the "opportunity" probably hasn't been presented. Look at the origin of the discussion on the other board. Once again, somebody posting a hypothetical or making up some story about as ludicrous as "a friend of a friend of a friend told me NIU is going to drop football and make Huskie Stadium an orchestra hall."

When there is a development with another conference involving NIU that is actually legitimate, then we will have something concrete to debate. Despite what some would like to think, NIU was never approached by CUSA in the fall nor did Peters, Groth, etc. approach anybody directly.
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niu85alum Wrote:Anybody catch whiff of the garbage on the general MAC board? Yet another uninformed "rumor" that NIU is contemplating a conference switch. Stupid things like this take on a life of their own. Is there nothing else "real" we can talk about, say for instance our lousy basketball team or how good our football program has become?

Way too many morons with way too much time on their hands.
I don't mean to be rude but PLEASE read what the post said. It was a joke. It was a pretend rumor from somebody who had a DOG who's uncle...(or something along those lines) . It was a joke based on previous topics that included Miami and Toledo going to C-USA and the topic of C-USA voting against the MAC in the attendance requirement(meaning C-USA planning on taking the top MAC teams when the conference falls apart because of the requirements).

I also agree with HuskieJ. We need to look at EVERY opportunity should one arise. Not looking would mean we are satisfied where we are and quite frankly, we should strive to be the in the best situation possible(money and conference strength). If it happens to be the MAC, then it is the MAC with no complaints. One thing you guys may not know is that the DeKalb airport is supposed to be expanded and it was mentioned it would then be big enough to fly the athletes out of DeKalb if they wanted to.
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niu85alum Wrote:The point is the "opportunity" probably hasn't been presented. Look at the origin of the discussion on the

When there is a development with another conference involving NIU that is actually legitimate, then we will have something concrete to debate. Despite what some would like to think, NIU was never approached by CUSA in the fall nor did Peters, Groth, etc. approach anybody directly.
No kidding. We ALL it hasn't presented itself at this time., but why is it bad to THINK about the what-ifs? It is just something to talk about during these dark days of the b-ball season. Quite frankly, I actually think we should be pro-active in looking/talking rather than sitting back and wonder if someone is interested. You can't get a job if you don't go out and look because nobody knows you are interested. The same applies here.
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Great news about the Hooterville, er DeKalb, airport. Since our school is severly cash strapped and can't possibly afford to buy an actual plane or even charter one, maybe we can compel some farmer in the area who has a crop duster to fly Joe Novak ahead of the bus for a relative nominal amount.

By the way, ever catch a load of the Huskie Athletic buses? Circa 1965.


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Honest to goodness I think the NIU administration thinks the MAC is the best and most appropriate home for us. That happens to parallel my thinking but that's not the point.

Academics will always be the priority at NIU, not sports. The same is true at all of the other MAC schools too. Via my involvement with the school over the past 20 years (first as student then as an alum) I have never seen any appetite on the part of the administration or the student and alumni community to make mega-investment, assuming dollars where available which they are not, into athletics. Just take a look at how long it took to get enough embrace and support for the Convocation Center, a facility that isn't even for full athletic use.

I want nothing more than the profile of NIU athletics to significantly increase. Though progress has been painfully slow, I do feel good about the future. Most importantly to the fortunes of Huskie athletics is the fact that the MAC conference is getting stronger and stronger, not the opposite. Even under the unlikely scenario the NCAA enforces the 15,000 rule in football, NIU will come out a winner along with probably a handful of schools we love being in the company of (Miami, Toledo, Ball State, Bowling Green, Western Michigan). Under this scenario next year we might not even be talking about the Buffalos and Akrons and Ohios in football anymore. Instead, the remaining core of MAC teams may be in the midst of merging with a number of other good schools in a new MAC or a new conference all together. Regardless, things are going to work out for NIU simply by staying in the MAC.

I don't begrudge the discussion on this subject. I just lament the fact that its all wishful thinking and speculation with no basis of fact.
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Messageboard, i agree this is something that is fun to look at. I also happen to agree that NIU should shop itself. NI85ALUM feels that the MAC will be stronger if the NCAA applies a rule which you have to have 15,000 fans per game....but i also happen to argue that a 6 team conference isn't very strong. He thinks we can draw in even stronger teams with the core of the MAC and form a nice conference...Where are these teams going to come from? NO where, they aren't real. The good teams/programs have already aligned themselvs with a conference amid all this moving in the past year.
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crazywilly Wrote:The good teams/programs have already aligned themselvs with a conference amid all this moving in the past year.
So you are saying that the two teams that beat NIU this year are not good? Last I saw Toledo and BG beat NIU and they are both in the MAC. Only Marshall and UCF have left.
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Didn't realize "Robert" is reincarnation of Messageboardwatcher on the old board. What a one two punch he forms with the famous Willy.

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niu85alum Wrote:Great news about the Hooterville, er DeKalb, airport. Since our school is severly cash strapped and can't possibly afford to buy an actual plane or even charter one, maybe we can compel some farmer in the area who has a crop duster to fly Joe Novak ahead of the bus for a relative nominal amount.

By the way, ever catch a load of the Huskie Athletic buses? Circa 1965.


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DeKalb International North (aka Rockford Airport) has a nice terminal and can handle any plane. Even the Concorde landed there. Of course it is a bus ride down I 39 but only about 45 minutes max. Instead of buses we can load up the hay racks and the John Deeres.
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crazywilly Wrote:The good teams/programs have already aligned themselvs with a conference amid all this moving in the past year.
So you are saying that the two teams that beat NIU this year are not good? Last I saw Toledo and BG beat NIU and they are both in the MAC. Only Marshall and UCF have left.
Forgive, Willy. Happy hour sometimes starts early for him. Yes, Toledo is VERY good and so is Bowling Green. Since I said something nice about Toledo, can I please get one of those Amstutz bobbleheads? Please??? I really want one of those!
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That wasn't my point...but you are from toledo, so i guess i'll spell it out.

The 6 left will be good, but what good is a 6 team conference?

SUN BELT!!!!!!!!

I was responding to this comment by our friend NIU85Alum, who just started following huskie sports again...WHAT A SUPPORTER!

"Instead, the remaining core of MAC teams may be in the midst of merging with a number of other good schools in a new MAC or a new conference all together."

SO let me ask this again, Toledo fans, read this carefully, Of the "Number of good schools" that will merge with the current MAC who are they, that they haven't already moved? Remember Toledo fans you are in the MAC so you count as the remaining MAC teams, i have full faith that you can draw over 15,000 a game, you have a solid team.
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