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NIUGAMBLER Wrote:
skiesix Wrote:This state like most others is in big trouble financially.  The answer to all our woes is everywhere around us.  Its those palaces built and maintained tax free (to praise a poor Jew born 2000 years ago, who would have wasted most of these hucksters who claim to be his representative on Earth).  The catholic church alone owns billions of dollars worth of real estate in this state.....TAX FREE BABY! 
Tax organized religion for once, stop hitting Liquor, tobacco and gambling.  For the little we get in return from these huge businesses (organized religions) most could be taxed into non existence and we would all be better off.
I never ever agree with alum until now. All he did was defend his point of view the same way skie did his. Skie started off with an attack on organized religion saying that jesus would have wasted everyone, then alum defended, I don't really see a problem here dan. You can believe whatever you'd like too dan, but the moral of this story is that you have to respect everyone else's view, skie doesn't like Religion, Alum doesn't like skie or white trash, maybe one in the same maybe not but it's his view.

The free speech thing would have been a good one Field Turf except for the fact that it has been proven that on this board there is no free speech AKA the user agreement.

BTW i'm curious what the problem is with people believing in god or having a religion, some people believe in god, some people believe in global warming, heck some people believe in our defense :) , the fact is they all take a leap of faith to believe in so why is it so wrong if it involves god?
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Quote:Daddy taught you how to be an angry young man when it comes to praise and respect for Our Savior, didn't he. Guess Daddy didn't like paying all those exurbient taxes on the three packs of cigarettes he smoked each day and the pint of whiskey he guzzled out on the porch. Perhaps his time would have been better served being a role model and introducing you to the Bible and its meaning.


Dan didn't delete anything. Dan didn't dictate whether a discussion could or couldn't be had. Dan simply stated that intolerance on one side wasn't going to be deleted when intolerance on the other side dictated that it should be. Dan then expressed his opinion about heavy-handed Christians that want to tell people how to live.

I respect everyone's point of view, to the point that I didn't do a thing to alter the direction of this discussion. What I did was NOT delete posts from one side of the argument that angered the other side, despite my obvious siding with one of the two sides. So, what exactly did I do other than let the discussion go (which is actually one of the mod tasks) and not play favorites, and then express my opinion? So I contributed opinion both as a mod and as a poster, at no time altering anything.

BTW - free speech is not guaranteed in a private environment. Just FYI. And for the record, I have absolutely no problem with people believing in whatever floats their boat, as long as they don't tell me that they have all the answers and, more importantly, that my way of living is insufficient. Your beliefs are wonderful until you try to extrapolate them on to why they should be my beliefs. Guess what, Atkins is for you, and I like potatoes and bread. Deal with it - I will.
06-02-2004 11:13 PM
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Nicely put Dan. I think you hit the nail on the head.
06-03-2004 05:00 AM
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For the record, Dan was irritable last night. Dan began to go third-person, and for that Dan apologizes. Dan won't let it happen again. :D
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Now that "Dan The Man" has told us all what bothers him, we should use it to our advantage.

Dan if you don't like people who think that they have all the answers, you must really hate looking in the mirror.
06-03-2004 08:31 AM
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NIUFAN Wrote:Now that "Dan The Man" has told us all what bothers him, we should use it to our advantage.

Dan if you don't like people who think that they have all the answers, you must really hate looking in the mirror.
Nope, got no problem there......except for my severely receeding hairline. 03-razz
06-03-2004 08:32 AM
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My reply to the original message was out of line and made in anger. It does not excuse a scathing attack against organized religion and Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior to be maintained on this post sight. Dan is on a self-righteous liberal minded power kick once again. Proof, once again, why so many on other boards label him as they do. If some of you want to endorse the "right" to post the original message, so be it. I am sad for you. Somehow you have confused freedom of speech with the true meaning of the U.S. Constitution. Somehow you have also lost sight of the fact that this is a board devoted to discussion of Northern Illinois University athletics too.
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Ok, then let's cut ALL the religious crap on this board going forward, and start talking some sports.

Starting a new post. Who will be the surprise player of 2004?
06-03-2004 10:36 AM
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niu85alum Wrote:My reply to the original message was out of line and made in anger. It does not excuse a scathing attack against organized religion and Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior to be maintained on this post sight. Dan is on a self-righteous liberal minded power kick once again. Proof, once again, why so many on other boards label him as they do. If some of you want to endorse the "right" to post the original message, so be it. I am sad for you. Somehow you have confused freedom of speech with the true meaning of the U.S. Constitution. Somehow you have also lost sight of the fact that this is a board devoted to discussion of Northern Illinois University athletics too.
There is a precedent on other boards at this site to not remove political threads even when not in a political area (there is a Spin Room in the Lounge area specifically for political talk), so it will remain. And I didn't touch your response that basically called for the original poster to be smited. So how does my self-righteous liberal leaning allow me to let yours go? :rolleyes:

I also said that no one has any "right" to post here. But I don't see anything wrong with what started this thread as a topic, and that has nothing to do with whether I agree with him or not. It should be obvious that I didn't agree with your comments, but rather than delete them I simply responded to them. Don't call me self-righteous - you're the one trying to get posts you don't agree with removed. 05-nono

And why don't you lecture us about how the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of freedom of speech doesn't apply when criticizing religion. :rolleyes:
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I guess I should have responded to another thread with my remarks about organized religion because that would have made more sense and we maybe wouldn't have needlessly opened up this discussion about who or what anyone believes in. I was simply responding to all the talk about where the money for a new training facility (and improvements on campus in general) could or should come from. I didn't make it clear, thats for sure.
The following has nothing to do with NIU football, so go on to something else if you choose, or Dan knock this off, I guess I wouldn't blame you).
I don't really care what anybody believes in, I just don't want you doing it on my nickel. I want all organized religions to pay taxes on their real estate and their income (from the collection plate, etc.)......... there probably should be an entertainment tax levied as well. I want organized religion to pay for all the people they f&%$ up on a daily basis that require hopitalization or imprisonment or a death sentence as a result of their obsession with devils, infidels, angels, ghosts, spirits, fairies, 72 virgins, whatever. When a guy slaughters his kids and says Jesus told him to do it, then I want to find out who his "Manson" is (you know like in Charlie, who put this crap in his head), and who that guy's "Manson" is and hold them monetarily and physically responsible. We finally went after the catholic church and their all too friendly clergy and thats just the tip of the ice berg.
Cigarettes, gambling and booze may be costing us all a bundle every year for what it does to our citizenry, but that pales compared to what we are paying to stop the effects of organized religion on the earth's inhabitants.
Just where do you think all this ****** coming down since 9/11 came from, what's behind it? Who's behind it? Your going to end up in one and the same place.
Holy War.....ring a bell?
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