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Just looking at common opponents this year should give you an indication of how tough the SVC will be for NIU.

Marshall v WMU: Marshall gets 285 yrds rushing for the game. At home.
NIU v WMU: Huskies roll up 252 yrds rushing for the game.
Troy v Marshall: Troy holds Marshall to 68 yrds rushing. At Marshall. Gets down to a sick 23 yrds after taking out yrds lost due to sacks.

Granted, Marshall's RB's are no where near as talented as Garret Wolfe. But no one beats down Marshall in their house. Do I think NIU has had the benefit of playing in a poor conference? Well, take a look at how Jamario Thomas did against Southern Miss. Take nothing from Wolfe, but he hasn't seen a front 4 like Troy all year. Just like North Texas didn't, until the New Orleans bowl.
12-16-2004 10:16 AM
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With all due respect.. that's not a very good comparison.

North Texas is a bad football team, they beat no one in their non-conference schedule and didn't play troy. They were smoked by Texas, Baylor, Florida Atlantic and Colorado, I mean smoked. I don't think their Southern Miss game has anything to do with our game with Troy.

They won most of their conference games by 10pts or less. Baylor and Colorado are bad Big 12 teams and they got killed.
12-16-2004 10:42 AM
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The Troy State vs. NIU battle should be a good one. Troy State has a solid, well coached team plus a defense the Huskies have not seen the likes of all season long. I expect this to be a tight game. Key to NIU winning will be Josh Haldi stepping up and having one of his finest days ever in the passing department. As great as our offensive line and Garrett Wolfe are, I think Troy State is going to give them a handful.
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Front four really don't matter, he bounces outside of the line and rarely get caught from behind. If our line gets any contain on your ends wolf is running all day.
12-16-2004 11:09 AM
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calvin12 Wrote:Front four really don't matter, he bounces outside of the line and rarely get caught from behind. If our line gets any contain on your ends wolf is running all day.
They'll run away from Ware. Unless Troy has 2 freak DE that are really good at keeping contain. NIU and Wolfe will get their yards. Any idea how good Troy OLBs are?

The real concern is if NIU keeps getting themselves in obvious passing situations. That is when we'll be in some serious s@$t!
12-16-2004 12:31 PM
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all_in Wrote:Just looking at common opponents this year should give you an indication of how tough the SVC will be for NIU.

Marshall v WMU: Marshall gets 285 yrds rushing for the game. At home.
NIU v WMU: Huskies roll up 252 yrds rushing for the game.
Troy v Marshall: Troy holds Marshall to 68 yrds rushing. At Marshall. Gets down to a sick 23 yrds after taking out yrds lost due to sacks.

Granted, Marshall's RB's are no where near as talented as Garret Wolfe. But no one beats down Marshall in their house. Do I think NIU has had the benefit of playing in a poor conference? Well, take a look at how Jamario Thomas did against Southern Miss. Take nothing from Wolfe, but he hasn't seen a front 4 like Troy all year. Just like North Texas didn't, until the New Orleans bowl.
Worst post ever :withstupid:

Common by 2nd degree doesn't work, just like common by 1st degree doesn't.

I think you troy fans should just stick to watching the game, instead of posting some BS about it. It will be close maybe, why? Because there are 2 decent teams on the field, not because Marshall beat WMU....and wmu beat your cousin, who knows a guy, who played at troy state who said..."Troy is the Greatest Team ever"
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In case you missed my point, there has been an outcry for Jamario Thomas and Garret Wolfe alike to get more recognition for their superior accomplishments this year in the ground game. My point is that against similar, weak opponents, ANYONE can churn up ground yardage, as Thomas did all year against a pathetic SunBelt schedule. He was exposed as a fraud against a competent opponent. Wolfe didn't begin his tear until NIU was into their MAC schedule, which was hardly a defensive powerhouse this year. When the unspectacular backfield that Marshall puts on the field has MORE ground yardage against the same opponent as NIU (WMU) it shows anyone with intelligence that the yardage comes from exposing weak defenses, and not a superior ground attack. Troy has a superior defense. End of point. Thanks for playing.
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Yeah, but WMU's pass defense is one of the worst in D-1. We scored 59 points, many on one or two play 70yard drives where we went deep and scored. Look at the stats for that game. We didn't need to run, we were burning a hole in their secondary! By the time the second half rolled around, we had the 2nd and 3rd stringers in. Be careful with looking at just one part of the stats from a game.
12-16-2004 01:19 PM
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Western Michigan game 2004 -

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 Score
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Northern Illinois... 14 28 14 3 - 59 Record: (6-2-0,5-0)
Western Michigan.... 7 10 7 14 - 38 Record: (1-6-0,0-4)



Scoring Summary:
1st 14:43 NIU - WOLFE, Garrett 78 yd run (NENDICK, Chris kick), 1-78 0:17, NIU 7 - WMU 0
05:03 NIU - HURD, Sam 10 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 12-77 4:24, NIU 14 - WMU 0
01:44 WMU - RILEY, Trovon 6 yd run (MENCHINGER, R. kick), 7-70 3:19, NIU 14 - WMU 7
2nd 14:46 NIU - HARRIS, A.J. 3 yd run (NENDICK, Chris kick), 5-65 1:58, NIU 21 - WMU 7
13:19 NIU - SHELDON, Dan 63 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 2-63 0:15, NIU 28 - WMU 7
07:04 WMU - MENCHINGER, R. 31 yd field goal, 9-38 3:19, NIU 28 - WMU 10
06:21 NIU - SHELDON, Dan 45 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 2-63 0:43, NIU 35 - WMU 10
01:42 WMU - JENNINGS, Greg 51 yd pass from CUBIT, Ryan (MENCHINGER, R. kick), 2-51 0:13, NIU 35 - WMU 17
00:41 NIU - HURD, Sam 24 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 7-51 1:01, NIU 42 - WMU 17
3rd 08:09 NIU - SHELDON, Dan 18 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 12-71 4:35, NIU 49 - WMU 17
03:26 WMU - CUBIT, Ryan 14 yd run (MENCHINGER, R. kick), 10-82 4:43, NIU 49 - WMU 24
02:01 NIU - CIESLAK, Brad 12 yd pass from HALDI, Josh (NENDICK, Chris kick), 4-47 1:25, NIU 56 - WMU 24
4th 11:45 WMU - JENNINGS, Greg 93 yd punt return (MENCHINGER, R. kick), , NIU 56 - WMU 31
05:53 NIU - NENDICK, Chris 28 yd field goal, 9-63 5:52, NIU 59 - WMU 31
02:45 WMU - RILEY, Trovon 1 yd run (MENCHINGER, R. kick), 7-69 3:08, NIU 59 - WMU 38



NIU WMU
FIRST DOWNS................... 22 28
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............ 41-265 40-204
PASSING YDS (NET)............. 387 290
Passes Att-Comp-Int........... 25-17-0 45-26-2
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS..... 66-652 85-494
Fumble Returns-Yards.......... 0-0 0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............ 2-18 3-112
Kickoff Returns-Yards......... 5-125 9-180
Interception Returns-Yards.... 2-13 0-0
Punts (Number-Avg)............ 3-44.3 3-39.0
Fumbles-Lost.................. 0-0 2-0
Penalties-Yards............... 8-85 3-20
Possession Time............... 26:32 33:28
Third-Down Conversions........ 9 of 14 11 of 18
Fourth-Down Conversions....... 1 of 1 1 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances....... 5-5 4-5
Sacks By: Number-Yards........ 2-18 0-0

RUSHING: Northern Illinois-WOLFE, Garrett 20-185; HARRIS, A.J. 17-67;
HALDI, Josh 2-10; SHELDON, Dan 1-5; TEAM 1-minus 2. Western Michigan-RILEY,
Trovon 27-159; CUBIT, Ryan 10-32; BONDS, Mark 3-13.

PASSING: Northern Illinois-HALDI, Josh 15-22-0-333; HORVATH, Phil
2-3-0-54. Western Michigan-CUBIT, Ryan 26-45-2-290
12-16-2004 01:23 PM
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Those previous 2 posts weren't made to assert that any kind of blowout will happen on 12/30-I believe the game will be a close one. But look at the whole picture of the game - maybe Marshall's QB was having an off day; maybe their overall(WMU) defense is that bad, maybe it's the strength of our running game. It's probably all 3 - Garrett didn't play, remember, until game 4 with Bowling Green(regularly anyway). I don't care who the hell you play, 200 or 300 yard games are an incredible accomplishments. I think he'll hit 150 for the game on 12/30.
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This game is going to be all about defense! Period! I'm not sure how good Troy is at the pass... but if they are decent, we'll have to rack up some points to win. I just hope their defense is not as good as advertised... or, on the flip side... maybe Wolfe is even better than we/they think. Either way it's going to be fun!
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BMX, you said it perfectly.

Stopping Troy's offense will be easily done by NIU's 4th string D. As long as NIU doesn't make turnovers, this game should be close. But Troy has the most interceptions in the nation (25) and a stupid run defense. Reminds me of the Tampa Bay Bucs before Gruden came to town.
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To say that Wolfe could be exposed as weak would be very incorrect. We played without Wolfe starting in the ISU and Maryland game and AJ had a good game. however I think we would all agree that AJ isn't as good as Wolfe.

Everyone could see a difference in run production with Wolfe out of the Toledo game or not starting. Wolfe has yet to lose a game he started in. AJ has spelled him and has not been as productive.
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all_in Wrote:In case you missed my point, there has been an outcry for Jamario Thomas and Garret Wolfe alike to get more recognition for their superior accomplishments this year in the ground game. My point is that against similar, weak opponents, ANYONE can churn up ground yardage, as Thomas did all year against a pathetic SunBelt schedule. He was exposed as a fraud against a competent opponent. Wolfe didn't begin his tear until NIU was into their MAC schedule, which was hardly a defensive powerhouse this year. When the unspectacular backfield that Marshall puts on the field has MORE ground yardage against the same opponent as NIU (WMU) it shows anyone with intelligence that the yardage comes from exposing weak defenses, and not a superior ground attack. Troy has a superior defense. End of point. Thanks for playing.
Wolfe wasn't the feature back until the 3rd game of the season! Get a clue!
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[QUOTE]Wolfe didn't begin his tear until NIU was into their MAC schedule, which was hardly a defensive powerhouse this year.

I think I covered the part about Wolfe not starting since day 1, thanks.
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