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RE: ACC Network
(09-05-2019 10:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  At least now all ACC fans living with Comcast know that they won't be getting the ACCN for at least 2 years. Lots of good cord-cutting options, though.

Yep. I think that is where it stands now. Overall, the ACCN has great coverage now, with the exception of Xfinity and U-Verse.

As for U-Verse, AT&T seems to be in the middle of big changes to all of their offerings, so I don't see an ACCN deal happening with everything in flux. It seems like DIRECTV may be their only platform where the ACCN resides for a while.

For Xfinity, it sounds like Comcast has made their decision. So, if you are a Comcast customer, you can either sit patiently while you wait on their contract for the Disney and ESPN networks to expire, or maybe for the contract for the FX and Nat Geo networks to expire, and you can either watch live games from a bar/restaurant, or from a friend or relative's house, or you can go through free-trial periods of the various streaming options. That will probably get you through most of the live football games for your favorite team. However, if you also like watching live basketball, baseball, soccer, etc., then you're eventually going to either run out of free-trials or get sick of having to go somewhere else to watch the games. So, at that point, it probably makes sense to ditch Xfinity and move to a satellite carrier or streaming service.

If enough Comcast customers start leaving Xfinity and switching to a satellite carrier or streaming service, then maybe they'll change their mind, and then you can switch back to them once they have the ACCN. It seems like that is what it is going to take for this to happen any sooner than waiting for contracts to expire.
09-06-2019 10:32 AM
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(09-06-2019 09:41 AM)nole Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 08:48 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 09:55 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  What’s happening with ACC Network?

For years, Atlantic Coast Conference sports aired on ESPN and other networks at no additional cost to customers. Now, ESPN has launched the ACC Network, a new TV network that will carry some of the ACC games. Unfortunately, they are demanding a large fee to carry it. This would mean that all customers, even those who do not watch ACC sports, would need to pay more.

Many ACC games are still available on broadcast and cable channels without the new network. However, in support of our customers, Comcast will not carry the ACC Network until we reach an agreement at a fair and reasonable cost.

https://www.xfinity.com/facts/accnetwork...lsrc=aw.ds

It is time for Miami, and especially FSU fans to let Comcast hear their voices, and threats and actions to go to another provider. If FSU is the ACC's biggest tv draw, then they have to flex their muscles. You cant blame it on the ACC if all the other schools were influential in helping their providers to take the ACCN. Comcast is largest remaining puzzle for the ACCN.

To be honest, I am shocked that we cant get the largest provider in Florida on board yet. I thought that all the providers in Florida would be on board before any other provider because I know how crazy people are about football down there. Crazy.


I heard the same BS during the last failed TV contract. "it's FSU fault for sucking at football" (Swofford) after FSU had a few off years post winning the ACC 14 years in a row.

FSU TV ratings are massive. It is why the ACC was attractive to ESPN to start with. The spin of 'FSU is holding us back now' is ridiculous.

I never once blamed FSU for the last tv contract. Its a dumb argument, imo. SU was not even in the ACC at that time so I didnt care about the ACC then. It would have been ridiculous to blame FSU then. Anyway, that was 10 years ago. Today, the ACCN is doing well, with the exception of Comcast, which is the main provider in Florida where FSU gets its "massive" tv ratings. FSU's "massive" tv audiance, along with Miami, and as HokieMark says, VT and UV, have to put pressure on Comcast by getting the ACCN from another provider. No one is saying FSU is holding the rest of us back. FSU is holding itself back. The rest of can get the ACCN.

Its interesting that you want to give FSU all the credit for ESPN being attracted to the ACC, as if we are all profiting from FSU. But if Comcast doesnt take on the ACCN for a couple of years it will be FSU who is profiting off of the other schools efforts for a couple years. Do I really believe that? No, I do not believe that anymore than I believe that FSU is the reason that ESPN is attractive to the ACC. Thats because the ACC is a collection of schools where each school brings value, some more than others, but no single school in this conference can take credit for the ACC's tv contract.
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(09-06-2019 08:09 AM)JAE_VT Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 08:00 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  In a development that may be ACCN related, the B10 Network is now Neilsen rated.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...v-ratings/

That's generally not been the case in the past for conference networks.

If you are using YouTube TV, then you are part of the Neilsen ratings sampling data points. Go to settings and see Neilsen TV Rating System.

Sort of. It's not the same as a quantified household. YouTube will know there is for sure one person watching a given stream. They won't know who or if there are others.
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A potential solution for Comcast customers could be to reduce their cable plan as much as possible & then subscribe to one of the streaming platforms. The beauty of these are that you can cut them off/on whenever you like. But i would atleast sign up fir the free preview to watch this week.
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Is Comcast trying to protect the SEC??
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(09-06-2019 01:26 PM)mj4life Wrote:  A potential solution for Comcast customers could be to reduce their cable plan as much as possible & then subscribe to one of the streaming platforms. The beauty of these are that you can cut them off/on whenever you like. But i would atleast sign up fir the free preview to watch this week.

Or end service and cut the cord or sign up with DISH & DirectTV
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(09-06-2019 07:45 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Is Comcast trying to protect the SEC??

It's probably all the SEC fans in the state calling up and saying they'll switch to another service if they pick up the ACCN.
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(09-06-2019 12:47 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 09:41 AM)nole Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 08:48 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 09:55 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  What’s happening with ACC Network?

For years, Atlantic Coast Conference sports aired on ESPN and other networks at no additional cost to customers. Now, ESPN has launched the ACC Network, a new TV network that will carry some of the ACC games. Unfortunately, they are demanding a large fee to carry it. This would mean that all customers, even those who do not watch ACC sports, would need to pay more.

Many ACC games are still available on broadcast and cable channels without the new network. However, in support of our customers, Comcast will not carry the ACC Network until we reach an agreement at a fair and reasonable cost.

https://www.xfinity.com/facts/accnetwork...lsrc=aw.ds

It is time for Miami, and especially FSU fans to let Comcast hear their voices, and threats and actions to go to another provider. If FSU is the ACC's biggest tv draw, then they have to flex their muscles. You cant blame it on the ACC if all the other schools were influential in helping their providers to take the ACCN. Comcast is largest remaining puzzle for the ACCN.

To be honest, I am shocked that we cant get the largest provider in Florida on board yet. I thought that all the providers in Florida would be on board before any other provider because I know how crazy people are about football down there. Crazy.


I heard the same BS during the last failed TV contract. "it's FSU fault for sucking at football" (Swofford) after FSU had a few off years post winning the ACC 14 years in a row.

FSU TV ratings are massive. It is why the ACC was attractive to ESPN to start with. The spin of 'FSU is holding us back now' is ridiculous.

I never once blamed FSU for the last tv contract. Its a dumb argument, imo. SU was not even in the ACC at that time so I didnt care about the ACC then. It would have been ridiculous to blame FSU then. Anyway, that was 10 years ago. Today, the ACCN is doing well, with the exception of Comcast, which is the main provider in Florida where FSU gets its "massive" tv ratings. FSU's "massive" tv audiance, along with Miami, and as HokieMark says, VT and UV, have to put pressure on Comcast by getting the ACCN from another provider. No one is saying FSU is holding the rest of us back. FSU is holding itself back. The rest of can get the ACCN.

Its interesting that you want to give FSU all the credit for ESPN being attracted to the ACC, as if we are all profiting from FSU. But if Comcast doesnt take on the ACCN for a couple of years it will be FSU who is profiting off of the other schools efforts for a couple years. Do I really believe that? No, I do not believe that anymore than I believe that FSU is the reason that ESPN is attractive to the ACC. Thats because the ACC is a collection of schools where each school brings value, some more than others, but no single school in this conference can take credit for the ACC's tv contract.

Not to mention Comcast's reach in South Carolina (Charleston)
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(09-07-2019 08:02 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 07:45 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Is Comcast trying to protect the SEC??

It's probably all the SEC fans in the state calling up and saying they'll switch to another service if they pick up the ACCN.

Not sure if you were just kidding, but I know for a fact there's at least SOME of this.
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Looks like things are coming to a head with ATT.
https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/espn-bl...looms.html
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ACC Network will soon be on U-verse and AT&T Now (Use to be Direct TV Now)

How do I know....The current deal between the companies allowing DirecTV, U-verse and AT&T Now to carry Disney programming will expire soon, Disney said. The looming blackout comes just as football season got underway. ABC and ESPN carry a full slate of college and professional games.Disney began showing warnings to subscribers during Monday Night Football that said "AT&T has refused to reach a fair, market-based agreement with us, despite the fact that the terms we are seeking are in line with recent marketplace deals we have reached with other distributors,"

Once they reach an agreement like DISH/Sling did with Disney ..the ACC Network will be on all three DIRECT TV (sat) U-verse & AT&T Now (use to be DIRECT TV Now) products..

The only question is when (or long will it take to reach a deal)???

Link

https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/att-tv-n...y-channel/

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/busines...ney-warns/
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Once the ACCN is added to AT&T Uverse and AT&T Now (Formerly DirectTV Now) how many Subscriptions will we have and at $1.00 what is the potential $$??
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Anyone know how many Networks have the ACC Network on the same package as the SEC Network?

There was some talk on an FSU board the there was a big difference there.
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(09-10-2019 05:47 PM)nole Wrote:  Anyone know how many Networks have the ACC Network on the same package as the SEC Network?

There was some talk on an FSU board the there was a big difference there.

I keep meaning to research that but just haven't gotten around to it... maybe tonight?
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Once we get past ATT, will ESPN use similar tactics on Comcast, that is, announcements on ACC football games on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPNU shown only on the Comcast feed telling fans what they’re missing on ACCN because greedy Comcast won’t accept the same terms as every other carrier? Why not?
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(09-10-2019 05:16 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Once the ACCN is added to AT&T Uverse and AT&T Now (Formerly DirectTV Now) how many Subscriptions will we have and at $1.00 what is the potential $$??

It won't average $1.00 overall. It'll be somewhere between $0.40-$0.80 on average based on other conference networks.
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(09-10-2019 06:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  Once we get past ATT, will ESPN use similar tactics on Comcast, that is, announcements on ACC football games on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPNU shown only on the Comcast feed telling fans what they’re missing on ACCN because greedy Comcast won’t accept the same terms as every other carrier? Why not?

I get that you guys want the ACC network to watch your teams play.
but not 1 single person outside your schools footprint wants to pay for this garbage. I hate conference tv networks; it’s why I cut the chord—seeing that I was getting (thus paying for) the SEC network when I lived in Phoenix (temporary work gig)
That made me sick. I dropped cable forever after that
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(09-10-2019 06:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 06:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  Once we get past ATT, will ESPN use similar tactics on Comcast, that is, announcements on ACC football games on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPNU shown only on the Comcast feed telling fans what they’re missing on ACCN because greedy Comcast won’t accept the same terms as every other carrier? Why not?

I get that you guys want the ACC network to watch your teams play,
but not 1 single person outside your schools footprint want to pay for this garbage. I hate conference tv networks;i it’s why I cut the chord—seeing that I was getting (thus paying for) the SEC network when I lived in Phoenix (temporary work gig)
That made me sick. I dropped cable

Well, I guess you should blame Jim Delaney and the Big Ten.

They started this ****. The rest are just trying to keep up.
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(09-10-2019 06:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 06:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  Once we get past ATT, will ESPN use similar tactics on Comcast, that is, announcements on ACC football games on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPNU shown only on the Comcast feed telling fans what they’re missing on ACCN because greedy Comcast won’t accept the same terms as every other carrier? Why not?

I get that you guys want the ACC network to watch your teams play.
but not 1 single person outside your schools footprint wants to pay for this garbage. I hate conference tv networks; it’s why I cut the chord—seeing that I was getting (thus paying for) the SEC network when I lived in Phoenix (temporary work gig)
That made me sick. I dropped cable forever after that

And why, exactly, did you feel compelled to come here to tell us this?
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(09-10-2019 06:26 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(09-10-2019 06:09 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  Once we get past ATT, will ESPN use similar tactics on Comcast, that is, announcements on ACC football games on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPNU shown only on the Comcast feed telling fans what they’re missing on ACCN because greedy Comcast won’t accept the same terms as every other carrier? Why not?

I get that you guys want the ACC network to watch your teams play.
but not 1 single person outside your schools footprint wants to pay for this garbage. I hate conference tv networks; it’s why I cut the chord—seeing that I was getting (thus paying for) the SEC network when I lived in Phoenix (temporary work gig)
That made me sick. I dropped cable forever after that


You pay and have paid for all kinds of crap you never wanted DECADES before college athletic networks.

Nothing new about this at all.
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