Do 8-4 teams get priority at an at-large bowl invitation before 7-5 teams? I thought I remember reading that an 8-win team get's taken before a 7-win team, but I'm not sure anymore if that's right. Just wondering in case either MT, Troy, ULM, or UL finish 2nd place with an 8-4 record. Would that team get an at-large spot in a bowl over... say a 7-5 NIU if the MAC has already filled their bowl slots?

Nope 7 or better has priority over 6-6 at-large but that's it. If a bowl prefers 7-5 Kansas over 9-3 NIU they are free to take Kansas

Thanks for the answer. I had a feeling that was likely the case. I'd hate to see an 8-4 team not go bowling this year like Troy in 07.

Arkstfan,
As a ULM fan, what do you think it will take for us to get into a bowl and who do we need to be hoping loses to help our chances? Thanks.

(11-03-2009 02:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Nope 7 or better has priority over 6-6 at-large but that's it. If a bowl prefers 7-5 Kansas over 9-3 NIU they are free to take Kansas

Pray that the ACC starts beating each other up leaving a couple games short.

Root like heck that South Carolina, LSU and Troy beat Arkansas.

Hope the Big 10 beats each other up and Iowa and Penn State make the BCS.

Hope the Big XII produces 6-6 schools rather than 7-5 because they are going to have at least two more eligible than they have bowls for.

Last year was a perfect storm. ASU, ULL, and FAU stagnated out at 6-6 but would have been locked in at 7-5 and as a result only FAU went any place. This year, I think 7-5 can leave you home.

(11-03-2009 12:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  This year, I think 7-5 can leave you home.

This year, I think not winning the SBC can leave you at home. No matter the record.

Yeah, I'm worried about that. I wonder if 8-4 would do it?

(11-03-2009 12:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Pray that the ACC starts beating each other up leaving a couple games short.

Root like heck that South Carolina, LSU and Troy beat Arkansas.

Hope the Big 10 beats each other up and Iowa and Penn State make the BCS.

Hope the Big XII produces 6-6 schools rather than 7-5 because they are going to have at least two more eligible than they have bowls for.

Last year was a perfect storm. ASU, ULL, and FAU stagnated out at 6-6 but would have been locked in at 7-5 and as a result only FAU went any place. This year, I think 7-5 can leave you home.

(11-03-2009 02:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Yeah, I'm worried about that. I wonder if 8-4 would do it?

(11-03-2009 12:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Pray that the ACC starts beating each other up leaving a couple games short.

Root like heck that South Carolina, LSU and Troy beat Arkansas.

Hope the Big 10 beats each other up and Iowa and Penn State make the BCS.

Hope the Big XII produces 6-6 schools rather than 7-5 because they are going to have at least two more eligible than they have bowls for.

Last year was a perfect storm. ASU, ULL, and FAU stagnated out at 6-6 but would have been locked in at 7-5 and as a result only FAU went any place. This year, I think 7-5 can leave you home.

Record is going to have very little to do with it. After you get to 7 wins to guarantee you priority over 6 win at large teams, you've done pretty much all you can do. Your team and your fanbase will be viewed pretty much the same way with 7, 8 or 9 wins.

I'm glad all this hoping for at-large bids comes to an end next season.

(11-03-2009 02:15 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Yeah, I'm worried about that. I wonder if 8-4 would do it?

(11-03-2009 12:00 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Pray that the ACC starts beating each other up leaving a couple games short.

Root like heck that South Carolina, LSU and Troy beat Arkansas.

Hope the Big 10 beats each other up and Iowa and Penn State make the BCS.

Hope the Big XII produces 6-6 schools rather than 7-5 because they are going to have at least two more eligible than they have bowls for.

Last year was a perfect storm. ASU, ULL, and FAU stagnated out at 6-6 but would have been locked in at 7-5 and as a result only FAU went any place. This year, I think 7-5 can leave you home.

nope 7 is the plateau 8 wins does ntohing other then look good on the record. but bowls will be looking at your fan base and your history and what you bring more then your record

Either root for a Troy collapse, or start hoping the BCS conferences dont fill their bowls this year. our usual help from the SEC most likely wont come this year. While Vandy and Kentucky wont make bowls and MSU is a longshot. youre going to need either Ole Miss to lose to Tennessee LSU and Miss State, or Arkansas to lose to everyone but Troy, or to everyone but Miss State

Big 12 proposal seeks more leniency
Updated: November 2, 2009, 2:52 PM ET
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe wants the NCAA to treat teams with 6-6 records the same as teams with winning records when it comes to bowl games.

Under current rules, teams with .500 records can receive a bowl bid only if the school's conference already has a deal with a bowl and all other teams with winning records have been invited to postseason games.

Beebe's proposal would eliminate those exceptions and permit 6-6 teams to be accepted immediately.

Consideration of the Big 12's proposal could lead to a broader discussion about the bowl system.

The Big 12's proposal is expected to be discussed during the NCAA convention in January.

This article appeared on the ESPN website on Monday, November 2, 2009.

(11-04-2009 06:35 PM)Krocker Krapp Wrote:  Big 12 proposal seeks more leniency
Updated: November 2, 2009, 2:52 PM ET
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe wants the NCAA to treat teams with 6-6 records the same as teams with winning records when it comes to bowl games.

Under current rules, teams with .500 records can receive a bowl bid only if the school's conference already has a deal with a bowl and all other teams with winning records have been invited to postseason games.

Beebe's proposal would eliminate those exceptions and permit 6-6 teams to be accepted immediately.

Consideration of the Big 12's proposal could lead to a broader discussion about the bowl system.

The Big 12's proposal is expected to be discussed during the NCAA convention in January.

This article appeared on the ESPN website on Monday, November 2, 2009.

That won't take effect this bowl season though, correct?

(11-04-2009 07:03 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 06:35 PM)Krocker Krapp Wrote:  Big 12 proposal seeks more leniency
Updated: November 2, 2009, 2:52 PM ET
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe wants the NCAA to treat teams with 6-6 records the same as teams with winning records when it comes to bowl games.

Under current rules, teams with .500 records can receive a bowl bid only if the school's conference already has a deal with a bowl and all other teams with winning records have been invited to postseason games.

Beebe's proposal would eliminate those exceptions and permit 6-6 teams to be accepted immediately.

Consideration of the Big 12's proposal could lead to a broader discussion about the bowl system.

The Big 12's proposal is expected to be discussed during the NCAA convention in January.

This article appeared on the ESPN website on Monday, November 2, 2009.

That won't take effect this bowl season though.

Just being propose. Hopefully it won't float.

(11-04-2009 06:35 PM)Krocker Krapp Wrote:  Big 12 proposal seeks more leniency
Updated: November 2, 2009, 2:52 PM ET
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe wants the NCAA to treat teams with 6-6 records the same as teams with winning records when it comes to bowl games.

Under current rules, teams with .500 records can receive a bowl bid only if the school's conference already has a deal with a bowl and all other teams with winning records have been invited to postseason games.

Beebe's proposal would eliminate those exceptions and permit 6-6 teams to be accepted immediately.

Consideration of the Big 12's proposal could lead to a broader discussion about the bowl system.

The Big 12's proposal is expected to be discussed during the NCAA convention in January.

This article appeared on the ESPN website on Monday, November 2, 2009.

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!

Coincidentally, the Big XII looks like they're going to have more Bowl teams (10: assuming K-State wins 2 more; and ISU, KU, UNL, A&M and Mizzo all win 1 more. Looking at schedules, this is fairly possible, if not probable) than slots (8).

You know they're going to be pissed when a 7+ win MTSU or Louisiana-Monroe gets a bid into an unfilled bowl before their lousy 6-6 teams (though, IMO, the Sun Belt teams will deserve it more).

The bottom of the article says it will be debated in January, so it would not take effect this season, but that does not make it any less unfair. It is exactly right that the Big 12 is doing this because, for the first time ever, they will have 10 bowl teams this year but only 8 spots. Just because this happens one time does not mean it will be a normal occurrence every fall.

The NCAA would be very shortsighted to change the 7-5/6-6 rule just because the Big 12 is having a mediocre season. South Carolina went 6-6 and sat home two years ago, so the SEC signed the Papa John's Bowl for their #9, and has not filled it yet. This would be similar. What the Big 12 wants is a 6-6 Missouri in an at-large bowl slot while an 8-4 ULM gets left out.

A deal is a deal. The 6-6 bullcrap won't fly. But you never know............. we've been crapped on before.

(11-04-2009 11:19 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  A deal is a deal. The 6-6 bullcrap won't fly. But you never know............. we've been crapped on before.

Where's 'the deal' written? Is it part of the BCS agreement? If so, they would have to ammend the current agreement; and reading the comments on the above linked ESPN article, it's not a very popular idea. It's only going to help a few 'undeserving' bottom tier BCS schools and hurt some much more deserving non-AQ's.