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Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
For those of you who have the NFL Network, they are televising senior bowl practices this week. I just got done watching the first practice today, and I thought Larry looked good. He looked very explosive, and Mayock and the other anchors had nothing but good things to say about him. At the end of practice it also showed Larry talking with a bunch of Panthers scouts...
They have daily practice updates on this website as well...
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/S...r-Bowl.php
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
This is what NFLDraftCountdown.com had to say about Larry after day 1
• Northern Illinois DE Larry English was more physically impressive than I anticipated and he drew praise from coaches for his technique.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/S...th-119.php
Doesn't seem like people are too excited about this...? I for one am pumped! Not only because I know Larry pretty well, but because NIU had a stud that is drawing praise in the senior bowl and may go 1st round! This could be HUGE for the program! Good luck Larry, keep killin' it down there!
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-20-2009 08:39 AM)huskiealum03 Wrote: anytime an NIU player can get a shot at the big time makes me happy.
I caught some of the pratice yesterday in passing, Larry English looked like a monster physically. He was very explosive and had some nice moves. I didn't really get a chance to see him do anything other than the one on one drills though so I don't have a "full" report but from what I saw he looked good.
The other DE's did not look all that great so I think Larry has a very good chance with a good combine to go round 1/2 (and there is no shame in being a round 2 pick).
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-20-2009 09:58 AM)Huskie359 Wrote: For any of those who may have caught the practice...Was Larry's thumb still wrapped in a cast???
It didn't look like it was from what I could see. He tried an inside move at one point really using his hands and they got a good shot of it - so I don't think either was wrapped up.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
Larry English will be drafted by a team that runs the Tampa-2 defense. For example the Bears or the Colts. He's got the size, speed and athleticism profile to be a pass rushing end in that defense. I will not be surprised to see English wind up in Indianapolis. Seems that the Colts have been following his progression intently. He has lots of raw similarity to current Colt star Dwight Freeney and might look awfully good lined up on the opposite end of the Colt defensive line.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 02:18 PM)Nigel Incubator-Jones Wrote: Larry English will be drafted by a team that runs the Tampa-2 defense. For example the Bears or the Colts. He's got the size, speed and athleticism profile to be a pass rushing end in that defense. I will not be surprised to see English wind up in Indianapolis. Seems that the Colts have been following his progression intently. He has lots of raw similarity to current Colt star Dwight Freeney and might look awfully good lined up on the opposite end of the Colt defensive line.
I like how you tried to repeat something you heard on TV/Radio, but failed to capture the point. It has been said, by some, if he is in a 4 - 3 he is going to have to be in a tampa 2 where his responsibilty to the run is minimal. BUT when the colts were brought up, it was as an example of a team that runs the tampa 2, not as a draftable location.
The Colts have Freeney and MATHIS (Who had 11.5 sacks last season at just 27 years old, and doesn't need to be replaced. Don't let facts stand in the way of anything you post.)
Good effort though!
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 02:31 PM)TheNEWguy Wrote: (01-21-2009 02:18 PM)Nigel Incubator-Jones Wrote: Larry English will be drafted by a team that runs the Tampa-2 defense. For example the Bears or the Colts. He's got the size, speed and athleticism profile to be a pass rushing end in that defense. I will not be surprised to see English wind up in Indianapolis. Seems that the Colts have been following his progression intently. He has lots of raw similarity to current Colt star Dwight Freeney and might look awfully good lined up on the opposite end of the Colt defensive line.
I like how you tried to repeat something you heard on TV/Radio, but failed to capture the point. It has been said, by some, if he is in a 4 - 3 he is going to have to be in a tampa 2 where his responsibilty to the run is minimal. BUT when the colts were brought up, it was as an example of a team that runs the tampa 2, not as a draftable location.
The Colts have Freeney and MATHIS (Who had 11.5 sacks last season at just 27 years old, and doesn't need to be replaced. Don't let facts stand in the way of anything you post.)

Good effort though! 
Fact is that members of the Indianapolis Colts scouting department were in attendance for 7 NIU football games from what I was told by a source. And that Bill Polian himself traveled to Muncie Indiana for express purpose of seeing Larry English play directly. In addition of course to other members of NIU and Ball State who may intrigue the Colt front office.
The presence of Freeney and Mathis isn't going to prevent Indinanapolis from taking English if he is available and slots with where they believe he deserves to be drafted. There is no such thing as a team having too many good pass rush options. Go ask the Chicago Bears if you dont' believe me. A big reason why the Bear defense went into the shitter the past two years is because of the fundamental lack of a quality and consistent rush brought on by Adewale Ogunleye and the overrated Mark Anderson.
Larry English WILL be drafted by a team that employs the Cover-2.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
I guess I don't see the fit in a 3-4. I also don't see the legitimate comparison to being a Demarcus Ware type player. To me English is made for the Cover-2...phyisical size, speed and raw athleticism. He would be less effective in a traditional 4-3 because he would be too often manhandled.
Bottom line, Larry English has a promising future playing football on Sundays.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 03:21 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote: A lot of teams rotate at least three defensive ends. The pressure they get from their ends is what makes their defense go, and having a third playmaker to rotate in would be big for them. Considering Freeney's age it seems about the right time to find a guy who can spell him when he's tired and be his eventual replacement. Not saying the Colts will pick him, but NIJ isn't wrong for saying the Colts could use him.
Let's be clear ANY team can use him.
But he is wrong for saying the colts would pick him, and here is why:
Dwight Freeney $72 Million
Robert Mathis (I don't have the total) but is making over $4 million a season.
And while I think it's neat to have 3 pass rushing DE's who make a TON of cash, I don't think a lot of teams feel that way. But it's not like they have any guys on the other side of the ball to pay....except for some manning guy, or addai guy, or wayne guy, or....  (Your point would make more sense if English was a 3rd rounder but he seems to be an early riser in this years draft.)
You guys are right, where do I order my Colts English Jersey?
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 04:03 PM)TheNEWguy Wrote: (01-21-2009 03:21 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote: A lot of teams rotate at least three defensive ends. The pressure they get from their ends is what makes their defense go, and having a third playmaker to rotate in would be big for them. Considering Freeney's age it seems about the right time to find a guy who can spell him when he's tired and be his eventual replacement. Not saying the Colts will pick him, but NIJ isn't wrong for saying the Colts could use him.
Let's be clear ANY team can use him.
But he is wrong for saying the colts would pick him, and here is why:
Dwight Freeney $72 Million
Robert Mathis (I don't have the total) but is making over $4 million a season.
And while I think it's neat to have 3 pass rushing DE's who make a TON of cash, I don't think a lot of teams feel that way. But it's not like they have any guys on the other side of the ball to pay....except for some manning guy, or addai guy, or wayne guy, or.... (Your point would make more sense if English was a 3rd rounder but he seems to be an early riser in this years draft.)
You guys are right, where do I order my Colts English Jersey?
Where English ends up will probably depend on who is taken where before him. I know there are at least two other DEs that are projected to go 1st round, so depending on where they go, we may see English's name pop up around 20-25.
And you've also seen what happens when guys who are projected to go high in the draft drop down the order, ala Aaron Rogers and Brady Quinn. Teams will do stuff they normally wouldn't if someone like that suddenly drops in their laps.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 04:27 PM)BarsemaBone Wrote: (01-21-2009 04:03 PM)TheNEWguy Wrote: (01-21-2009 03:21 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote: A lot of teams rotate at least three defensive ends. The pressure they get from their ends is what makes their defense go, and having a third playmaker to rotate in would be big for them. Considering Freeney's age it seems about the right time to find a guy who can spell him when he's tired and be his eventual replacement. Not saying the Colts will pick him, but NIJ isn't wrong for saying the Colts could use him.
Let's be clear ANY team can use him.
But he is wrong for saying the colts would pick him, and here is why:
Dwight Freeney $72 Million
Robert Mathis (I don't have the total) but is making over $4 million a season.
And while I think it's neat to have 3 pass rushing DE's who make a TON of cash, I don't think a lot of teams feel that way. But it's not like they have any guys on the other side of the ball to pay....except for some manning guy, or addai guy, or wayne guy, or.... (Your point would make more sense if English was a 3rd rounder but he seems to be an early riser in this years draft.)
You guys are right, where do I order my Colts English Jersey?
Where English ends up will probably depend on who is taken where before him. I know there are at least two other DEs that are projected to go 1st round, so depending on where they go, we may see English's name pop up around 20-25.
And you've also seen what happens when guys who are projected to go high in the draft drop down the order, ala Aaron Rogers and Brady Quinn. Teams will do stuff they normally wouldn't if someone like that suddenly drops in their laps.
English NEEDS to go out and really do well at the combine. Senior bowl practices seem to be going well, but a poor combine won't help him. He can be a 1st/2nd round pick easy, and depending on his 40 and shuttle times he could really place himself in the 1st round being able to play both the OLB and DE spots.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-21-2009 03:18 PM)Nigel Incubator-Jones Wrote: Fact is that members of the Indianapolis Colts scouting department were in attendance for 7 NIU football games from what I was told by a source. And that Bill Polian himself traveled to Muncie Indiana for express purpose of seeing Larry English play directly. In addition of course to other members of NIU and Ball State who may intrigue the Colt front office.
Several NFL teams scouted English throughout the year, many of them more than once. During a home game there was only one time when a scout from the Colts was in Huskie Stadium. So unless he went to 5 other away contests (excluding BSU) your source is kinda over exaggerating a bit.
Anyways, I really like what I'm reading on the practice blogs about English. Can't wait to watch him Saturday and on draft day
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
• Northern Illinois DE Larry English had a very good day, flashing on a number of occasions and appearing to have a good motor. Early on English looked real impressive in bag drills then later he showcased a nice inside move and even recorded a sack in 11-on-11's. English is solidifying himself as a Day One pick.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/S...th-121.php
Also said, he had a long talk with the Jets after practice yesterday
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-22-2009 08:38 AM)tubaguy21 Wrote: Mel Kiper's 1st mock draft has English going #24 to the Falcons!!!
I am really ssurprised that he has been projected this high in the draft. Good for Larry English hope it happens.....
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
Larry English should be a definite possiblilty for the Bears at # 18. The Bears have screaming need for a defensive end who can rush the passer given the declining ways of Adewale Ogunleye and the fact that Mark Anderson is garbage. Like I mentioned before, English is also ideal fit for the Cover-2 or Tampa-2 defense that Lovie Smith, Rod Marinelli and Bob Babich are infatuated with.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
NIUs' Larry English hope Bears Call his Name
My favorite quote from Larry:
"I don't know where my stock is going," English said. "All I'm doing is coming out and trying to have fun. I'm really trying not to be too conscious of things I can't control. But if I had the choice, I'd say I'd be the No. 1 pick."
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-22-2009 12:19 PM)Nigel Incubator-Jones Wrote: Larry English should be a definite possiblilty for the Bears at # 18. The Bears have screaming need for a defensive end who can rush the passer given the declining ways of Adewale Ogunleye and the fact that Mark Anderson is garbage. Like I mentioned before, English is also ideal fit for the Cover-2 or Tampa-2 defense that Lovie Smith, Rod Marinelli and Bob Babich are infatuated with.
I have a feeling the Bears will avoid picking Larry, as they recently used a high draft pick on a MAC speedy defensive end type from Central Michigan named Dan Bazuin. They got burned by this pick, and right or wrong, they may avoid picking another player from the MAC who played the same position.
I'm not comparing Dan to Larry or anything...it was just an observation that I had...
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-22-2009 12:32 PM)Huskie359 Wrote: (01-22-2009 12:19 PM)Nigel Incubator-Jones Wrote: Larry English should be a definite possiblilty for the Bears at # 18. The Bears have screaming need for a defensive end who can rush the passer given the declining ways of Adewale Ogunleye and the fact that Mark Anderson is garbage. Like I mentioned before, English is also ideal fit for the Cover-2 or Tampa-2 defense that Lovie Smith, Rod Marinelli and Bob Babich are infatuated with.
I have a feeling the Bears will avoid picking Larry, as they recently used a high draft pick on a MAC speedy defensive end type from Central Michigan named Dan Bazuin. They got burned by this pick, and right or wrong, they may avoid picking another player from the MAC who played the same position.
I'm not comparing Dan to Larry or anything...it was just an observation that I had...
You make a good point about the Dan Bazuin debacle. Also, the Bears have gotten virtually nothing out of a 3rd round draft pick out of the MAC that goes by the name of Garrett Wolfe.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/01/...1_the.html
Quote:Q: What kind of buzz is there about Larry English, the defensive end from Northern Illinois?
Scott T., Aurora
A: There's more and more buzz every day about English, who prepped at Marmion Academy in Aurora. He's turned heads all week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., and right now he's in the top five of a lot of lists at defensive end. English was the MAC MVP and defensive player of the year and produced 31 1/2 sacks during his career in DeKalb. The thing scouts are going to have to do is project him at the NFL level, something the Bears didn't do a very good job of with another MAC pass rusher in Dan Bazuin. English has good size at 6-3, 255 pounds and in the most recent mock draft by ESPN guru Mel Kiper Jr., he had English going in the first round.
Here is what ESPN.com's Todd McShay had to say about English today:
"Northern Illinois OLB/DE Larry English continues to make a case for himself as one of the premier pass-rushers of the senior crop. English turned another strong performance during one-on-ones, showcasing a variety of pass-rush moves. He displays the ability to bend when coming off the edge, which makes it extremely hard for tackles to get their hands on and control him. He has also lined up at defensive tackle at times, using his explosive first step to disrupt a play in the backfield on one snap and surprisingly driving Oregon C Max Unger back into the pocket on the next play. That's not all either. Texas DE Brian Orakpo skipped Senior Bowl week and English has seized the opportunity to step into the spotlight and making a name for himself."
Sounds like he's turning in a terrific week in Mobile. Watch for him during the game Saturday.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
Senior Bowl practice report, Day 3
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/fo...bowl.day3/
Thursday January 22, 2009
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Larry English/DE-OLB/Northern Illinois: The undersized defensive end beat opponents all day by playing with speed and athleticism. English is a fluid lineman who easily moves about the field and exploited big, immobile blockers to makes plays behind the line of scrimmage.
Senior Bowl: Standouts from Wednesday's practice
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49e...18817.html
January 21, 2009
Quote:Northern Illinois' Larry English is one of the best edge rushers here. He's solely played defensive end at the Senior Bowl, but at 254 pounds is far too light to be an end in the 49ers' scheme. The question is whether he's agile enough to stand up and play linebacker, something he did from time to time at Northern Illinois. "That wasn't our dominant scheme, but there were times I got to do that and build a certain comfort level doing that," English said after the morning practice. English said he had not spoken to the 49ers.
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-22-2009 05:07 AM)7 Wrote: Quote:The North defensive lineman that continued his strong showing was Northern Illinois defensive end Larry English. There were only a few plays that offensive linemen were able to stonewall him, and that happened when they got into English's body and didn't let him go. One of those tackles was Connecticut's William Beatty, who interviewed with Tampa Bay this week.
Other then just a few plays, English showed why he is a pure pass rusher. He is lightning fast off the snap and works his way to the quarterback going outside and inside the offensive tackle. The main thing that has prevented Bucs defensive end Gaines Adams from capitalizing on his speed is that he does not get his hips turned to the quarterback when he does a speed rush around the tackle. English is very agile and quickly turns his hips to the quarterback after getting a step on the offensive tackle. He closes in an instant and is on the quarterback.
English does a lot of moves to cut to the inside of the offensive tackle as well. That is another thing the Buccaneers are working on with Adams. English makes fabulous cuts and has a wicked spin move to turn back to the inside. On one play English rushed from over the guard and center at defensive tackle. Despite being an undersized defensive end, English still got the quarterback in a hurry as a tackle. He was blur as he went one direction and cut back around the guard and center to hit the quarterback. The speed at which English plays leads to offensive linemen getting off balance, and then English accelerates by them to the quarterback.
The Buccaneers met with English at Mobile, and if they want to acquire him they will have to use their first-round pick on him. After his week in Alabama, English will not fall to the Bucs' pick in the second round.
I would love this.
I was just about to post that, The Bucs really seem to be falling in love with Larry, all I know is he gets drafted by the Bucs, I will be adding his jersey to my collection of Bucs jerseys
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
(01-22-2009 07:56 PM)armour248 Wrote: Rey Maualuga at #2? Quite a stretch.
As of now, and assuming English has at least an above average combine, I'd almost guarantee he goes in the 15-30 range. He's going to end up being one of the top 5 DE's taken.
Yes , you heard that correctly, Maualuga has impressed Rams scouts so much at Senior Bowl workouts, they have moved him up to a top 5 pick on their board. They are extremely thin at LB and think he along with Chris Long could be the start of a dominate defense. This is from Rams Park. They, however, are projecting that although English has had 1st round stuff, players like him typically drop out of the 1st round on draft day do to many foolish things, but one being MAC play. I don't agree with it, but that is the word!
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
Follett’s counterpart, OLB Larry English, looked very stiff in space. He was routinely beaten by Barwin and lacks the straight-line speed or redirection skills needed to dip and close on the ball. He looks like a statue at times and showed he is not much of an asset in space.
Posted today on NationalFootballPost.com
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RE: Larry English @ the Senior Bowl
The best pass rusher during Senior Bowl practices was Northern Illinois' Larry English. In the game, English showed the versatility that will endear him to NFL decision makers. Besides lining up at defensive end, English also played outside linebacker. He showed the ability to be a disruptive force playing in space and the speed and athletic ability necessary to effectively stop the run.
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