Doggone Wrote:

armour248 Wrote:what is the domer domain board

http://www.domerdomain.com

The same insider later states that he will be eligible in 2008. I don't know how that could be true, but I'm not expert in the transfer rules.

Given that he has played this year, I do not believe that is possible.

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.

Because he played football this semester, and no matter what you have to sit out 2 academic semesters, he could not play until 2009 in 1-AA either. If he had decided this in July or early August, then he could, but it's too late now as he played the opener. Lowe is eligible (ran 2 times for 13 yards in the Georgia Southern opener) because he didn't play a down for us last year.

Well I don't believe it's possible he could play next year, but I've been wrong before. Maybe I'm confusing the transfer rules of football and basketball, they are different since football season is only during 1 semester and basketball season is during 2 different academic semesters.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.

Because he played football this semester, and no matter what you have to sit out 2 academic semesters, he could not play until 2009 in 1-AA either. If he had decided this in July or early August, then he could, but it's too late now as he played the opener. Lowe is eligible (ran 2 times for 13 yards in the Georgia Southern opener) because he didn't play a down for us last year.

I think that is incorrect. If you transfer to 1-AA, you do not have to sit out a year. That is how the 1-AA schools get all the 1-A transfers. I believe he definitely can play 1-AA next year.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.

Because he played football this semester, and no matter what you have to sit out 2 academic semesters, he could not play until 2009 in 1-AA either. If he had decided this in July or early August, then he could, but it's too late now as he played the opener. Lowe is eligible (ran 2 times for 13 yards in the Georgia Southern opener) because he didn't play a down for us last year.

OK that makes sense. So if Lowe had seen some playing time he would not have been able to play at GA southern correct?

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.

Because he played football this semester, and no matter what you have to sit out 2 academic semesters, he could not play until 2009 in 1-AA either. If he had decided this in July or early August, then he could, but it's too late now as he played the opener. Lowe is eligible (ran 2 times for 13 yards in the Georgia Southern opener) because he didn't play a down for us last year.

OK that makes sense. So if Lowe had seen some playing time he would not have been able to play at GA southern correct?

No. Even if Billy Lowe had played, he would be eligible to play this year. The "year out" rule only applies to FBS (1A) to FBS (1A) transfers.

Lowe transferred from a FBS (1A) to a FCS (1AA) school. No "year out" requirement is applicable

God I hate this Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) and Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) garbage.

Btw, if this makes him eligible to play in 2008 it would seem to make sense why he left so early.

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:

BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.

Because he played football this semester, and no matter what you have to sit out 2 academic semesters, he could not play until 2009 in 1-AA either. If he had decided this in July or early August, then he could, but it's too late now as he played the opener. Lowe is eligible (ran 2 times for 13 yards in the Georgia Southern opener) because he didn't play a down for us last year.

OK that makes sense. So if Lowe had seen some playing time he would not have been able to play at GA southern correct?

I think that's correct, but I'm getting dizzy with all these transfer rules i'm looking up.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:I think that's correct, but I'm getting dizzy with all these transfer rules i'm looking up.

Has anyone seen any legitimate media report this yet?

Does everyone just like pretending like they know, or does someone actually want to look it up?

ncaa.org

Last years transfer guide: http://www.ncaa.org/library/general/tran..._guide.pdf

Quote:If you transfer from a two-year school and do not meet the transfer requirements, or you transfer from a four-year school, whether you are a foreign or domestic student, this basic transfer rule applies to you:
You must spend one academic year in residence at your new school before you are eligible to play.

Quote:One academic year in residence = How long you must spend at your new school before you can play. Sometimes people call the year in residence sitting out.
For your academic year in residence to count toward your eligibility to play, you must sit out only at the school where you intend to play. And you must be a full-time student. You cannot meet this requirement by going part time or by not being in school at all.
For a semester or quarter to count toward your one academic year in residence, you must be enrolled full time (which is generally at least 12 credit hours) and you must be enrolled before the 12th day of class.
Full-time = Each school determines the meaning of full-time status on its own.
Typically, you are a full-time student if you are enrolled for at least 12 credit hours a term. However, some schools define a full-time student as someone who takes fewer than 12 credit hours a term.

Quote:If you are now in a four-year school …
If you are now in a four-year school and want to transfer to another four-year school, we sometimes refer to you as a 4-4 transfer. Generally, these rules apply to you.
If you transfer from a four-year school to another four-year school, generally you are not eligible to play at a Division I school until you sit out a year.
But, don’t give up yet. Read this section to see if an exception can apply to you to allow you to play right away.

Exceptions are applied by the new school (sometimes called the certifying school). The certifying school determines whether you are eligible to play right away without sitting out a year.
The certifying school has the authority to grant exceptions, based on the conditions that we explain here.
■ You can use an exception during your first year of enrollment at the new school only if you are a qualifier.
(Note: if you are a qualifier, have signed a National Letter of Intent, and transfer during the first year after you enrolled full-time, you may have to sit out for a period of time at the certifying school, even if you meet an exception. (For more information about the National Letter of Intent program, go to Page 27.)
■ If you are a partial qualifier or a nonqualifier, you must spend at least one academic year in residence before you are allowed to use an exception.
■ You cannot use an exception if you are sitting out a year at your current school.

If this is your first transfer …
If you have never transferred before from a four-year school, you might be able to use the one-time transfer exception to play right away at a Division I or II school.
To use this exception, you must:
■ be playing a sport other than basketball in Division I, football in Football Bowl Division (formerly Division I-A), or men’s ice hockey in Division I (Note: You may be eligible to use this exception in football if:
■ You transfer from a Football Bowl Division (formerly Division I-A) school to an NCAA Football Championship Division (formerly Division I-AA) school and have at least two seasons of competition remaining or
■ You transfer from an NCAA Football Championship Division (formerly Division I-AA) school that offers athletics scholarships to an NCAA Football Championship Division (formerly Division I-AA) that does not offer athletics scholarships or
■ All sports, you were not recruited by your current institution and have never received an athletics scholarship.)
■ be in good academic standing and making progress toward your degree;
■ have been considered eligible if you had stayed in your first school; and
■ have a release agreement from your first school saying that it does not object to your receiving an exception to the transfer

In Divisions I and III,
If you did not practice or play in your sport for two years …
If you did not participate in your sport for the two years immediately before you want to transfer, you may be able to use this exception.
You may use this exception if you:
■ did not practice or play in intercollegiate sports for two years before you practice or play for the new school; or
■ did not practice or play in noncollegiate amateur competition while you were enrolled as a full-time student during the two-year period.
If you have never been recruited …
If you have never been recruited by the Division I or II school you plan to attend, you may be able to use this exception if you:
■ have not received an athletics scholarship; and
■ have not practiced beyond a 14-consecutive day period at any school or played in intercollegiate competition before you transfer.
If you return to your first school without participating at the second school …
To go back to your first school in Division I or II, you may use this exception if you did not practice or play at the second school.
If you are transferring to a Division III school …
If you transfer to Division III and you have never participated in your sport on the college level, you may be eligible to play right away after you transfer.
However, if you did participate at your first school, you may be immediately eligible only if you would have been both academically and athletically eligible had you stayed at your first school.[/

Looks like he needs to enroll by the 12th day of class in order to play next year. How many days have the students been in class?

Isn't this the second week? That would be under twelve.

Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

Big Dog Wrote:Looks like he needs to enroll by the 12th day of class in order to play next year. How many days have the students been in class?

This was the 15th day. What if he took 12 hours spring and summer 2008? That would be a year's worth of school.

Another thread worth checking out:

http://www.goldhelmet.com/forums/showthr...#post30031

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

Now when you are "enrolled" do you have to be attending classes? Or do you just have to be enrolled?

Maybe he already enrolled this week. I would imagine that this is why the transfer is happening so fast. - Assuming this is true at all.

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Big Dog Wrote:Maybe he already enrolled this week. I would imagine that this is why the transfer is happening so fast. - Assuming this is true at all.

Exactly what I was thinking. The pieces seem to fit together.

NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Charlie's fat Irish *** is on the line and he is going to let Clausen get experience in the hope that will save his job with a "big" year in 2009. D Jones or Shapley(?) never had a chance.

Good luck D. Jones!

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Nice find. Cross referencing that with the ND phonebook, you'll notice that ARMOND is indeed his middle name.

http://apps.nd.edu/webdirectory/director...rius+jones

Woot.

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Can someone confirm this is him? Is his middle name "Armond"?

EDIT!!!!:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

This thread along with it being Friday @ 4:00 has brought a smile to my face....only 19 hours till game time....

Bartindekalb Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Can someone confirm this is him? Is his middle name "Armond"?

EDIT!!!!:

I assume the edit is that you saw the post right above yours?

:ncaabbs

a new better billy lowe

dynovinyl Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Nice find. Cross referencing that with the ND phonebook, you'll notice that ARMOND is indeed his middle name.

http://apps.nd.edu/webdirectory/director...rius+jones

Woot.

Can I get some "rep" for being the first to find this?

[begging]

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

dynovinyl Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Nice find. Cross referencing that with the ND phonebook, you'll notice that ARMOND is indeed his middle name.

http://apps.nd.edu/webdirectory/director...rius+jones

Woot.

Can I get some "rep" for being the first to find this?

[begging]

Um, have you ever pissed me off before? Where was your cross referencing. This is like woodward and bernstein stuff here.

I'll rep ya.

dynovinyl Wrote:

Bartindekalb Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Can someone confirm this is him? Is his middle name "Armond"?

EDIT!!!!:

I assume the edit is that you saw the post right above yours?

illinoisportsfan Wrote:Can I get some "rep" for being the first to find this?

[begging]

Done!

+=

dynovinyl Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

NIU1981 Wrote:Classes started August 27. Factoring in Labor Day, the 12 day of classes was this Wednesday.

http://www3.niu.edu/cgi-bin/ph/qi.niu.ed...rius+jones

Nice find. Cross referencing that with the ND phonebook, you'll notice that ARMOND is indeed his middle name.

http://apps.nd.edu/webdirectory/director...rius+jones

Woot.

OH OH OH OH OH OH

IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!




Great find both of you.

Imagine how this would help our recruiting. Demetrius Jones was apparently helping Notre Dame a lot with their recruiting. Morgan Park churns out tons of talent.

I guess you could say this "boosts" our 2006 recruiting class!

people, you just blew my mind.

Great research work.

Well...I pretty much feel like a lazy jerk.

Demetrius Jones =

dynovinyl Wrote:Um, have you ever pissed me off before? Where was your cross referencing. This is like woodward and bernstein stuff here.

I'll rep ya.

Thanks! I'm sorry about not giving you credit for the cross-reference!

epasnoopy Wrote:

illinoisportsfan Wrote:Can I get some "rep" for being the first to find this?

[begging]

Done!

Thanks!

HuskiesRule73 Wrote:NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Charlie's fat Irish *** is on the line and he is going to let Clausen get experience in the hope that will save his job with a "big" year in 2009. D Jones or Shapley(?) never had a chance.

Good luck D. Jones!

Are you sure his fat *** is all Irish?

Now THIS is what a message board is all about! Wow.

Fantastic work by you guys. GREAT job!!

illinoisportsfan Wrote:

dynovinyl Wrote:Um, have you ever pissed me off before? Where was your cross referencing. This is like woodward and bernstein stuff here.

I'll rep ya.

Thanks! I'm sorry about not giving you credit for the cross-reference!

you're little detective work has been discovered by the ND message board. Say hi!

http://domerdomain.com/forum/i-guess-we-...07-20.html

huskiealum03 Wrote:you're little detective work has been discovered by the ND message board. Say hi!

http://domerdomain.com/forum/i-guess-we-...07-20.html

Hi Notre Dame fans! Go Big Blue! (I feel dirty even saying that.)

http://jgwebblogs.typepad.com/notre_dame/

We had a transfer last month from Michigan, Cobrani Mixon, an LB who was ranked in the top 10 LB's in the country and one of the top 5 overall players in Ohio when he graduated HS in Cincy in 2006. He spent one year at UM and decided to come to KSU to play with one of his HS teammates. The UM board was crying about this loss as he looks like a gem and their defense is, well, we all know. Kelly at UC was working hard to get him to transfer to UC but he picked the Flashes. Word is he is a monster in practice now and a great addition in every repsect. He'll have 3 years of eligibility starting next year.
GL getting this guy!

axeme is a very clever user name.

Are you black?

If not - have you not offended all those diversity warriors?

Quote:HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL DATA: Graduated from Morgan Park High School in Chicago, Ill. ... one of seven quarterbacks on Parade prep All-America team ... rated 33rd on list of top 100 prep players nationally by USA Today ... rated 39th on list of top 100 players nationally by Chicago Sun-Times ... rated third on list of top 20 players in Midwest on Detroit Free-Press Best in the Midwest team ... Gatorade Player of the Year for 2005 in Illinois ... rated 55th on list of top 100 players in the nation by Dallas Morning News ... rated 105th on list of top 150 players nationally by CollegeFootballNews.com ... MVP of Chicago Prep Bowl after catching game-winning TD pass for Morgan Park High School in Chicago, Ill., in 14-13 overtime win over Brother Rice ... threw 23-yard TD pass on final play of game to beat Simeon 18-14 ... selected for U.S. Army All-American Bowl prep all-star game ... only quarterback on 25-member 2005 Illinois large-school (5A, 6A, 7A, 8A) all-state team by Chicago Sun-Times ... rated top senior player in Illinois by Chicago Tribune ... second-team all-state quarterback by Chicago Tribune ... 12-2 season mark helped earn him mention on Illinois all-state team for `05 by Champaign News-Gazette... threw for 2,000 yards and 25 TDs as senior in '05 ... listed 99th on '05 preseason list of top players in the country (and 14th among quarterbacks) by The Sporting News ... one of 50 players overall and seven quarterbacks on '05 preseason prep All-America team by Street & Smith's ... one of 10 quarterbacks on '05 preseason top 100 list by Lindy's ... one of nine quarterbacks on '05 national preseason top 100 by CBS SportsLine.com ... Chicago Tribune honorable mention all-state selection as junior ... threw for 2,300 yards and 21 TDs with only three interceptions as junior in '04 when he helped Morgan Park to state playoff semifinal ... rushed for another 1,000 yards and 16 TDs on the ground ... from same high school as `05 senior Irish linebacker and current New England Patriot Corey Mays ... born Jan. 3, 1988 ... high school coach was Lexie Spurlock ... enrolled in College of Arts and Letters.

Based on the following line, I do not think he will be eligible in 2008:

Quote:For your academic year in residence to count toward your eligibility to play, you must sit out only at the school where you intend to play.

Because he has already played a game this season, I think the NCAA would tell you he is NOT sitting out this season. He has played and has participated, therefore his one-year clock would not start until the 2nd semester this year at NIU.

He could appeal that, but based on that sentence, I don't think his one-year clock starts right now, regardless of when he enrolled at NIU.

Remember, the purpose of the rule is to cost the kid a year of eligibility, and considering he's played this year, that wouldn't happen if he's cleared for 2008.

I may be wrong, but that sentence would indicate that you have to actually sit out for a full year, which can't happen now that he's already played a game.

I doubt we still offer that QB from Iowa James Vandenberg now. We don't need two QB's in our 2008 class when we have so few scholarships and have so many QB's on our roster.

From Irish Insights:

Quote:Charlie Weis released a statement a few moments ago addressing the matter.

"At 2:30 today, while boarding the bus to Michigan, I was notified that Demetrius Jones had decided not to make the trip. I have not spoken to Demetrius and can only say he missed the team bus. Any additional comment would be without all the facts."

OH MY GOD I AM SO PUMPED!!! if there is ANY way for him to play next year...we need to make it happen..HOLY SH1T!!!!! IMAGINE NEXT YEARS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ahhh!!!!!!