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Demetrius Jones
Rivals ND site is indicating that Demetrius Jones may have quit the team at ND and be back home in Chicago. They have been unable to get confirmation from ND yet. Clearly, ND has annointed Jimmy Clausen. NIU recruited Jones pretty hard. He was a high school All-American and State of Illinois Player of the Year. ND lists him as 6'4", 213. Hope he decides to come back "home".
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Interesting.
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Wow, there was still talk that he would get playing time this week because of Michigan's struggles with the spread offense and they were apparantly running more of a spread attack with Jones than Clausen.

Well, if this is true, then I'd love to see him chose NIU.
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This might even be more interesting than we think...phil brown and melvin rice, get to work!!!
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Well, that was quick. What if Jimmy Claussen blows a shoulder this weekend and never plays QB at ND again?

The rule is one calendar year from the transfer, I think. Maybe his intention is to immediately move and be eligible to play a few games in next season.
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Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?
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NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?

Good point. I'm not sure I'd want him either. It does make one question what Weis told him during recruiting versus the current situation.
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NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?

Good point. I'm not sure I'd want him either. It does make one question what Weis told him during recruiting versus the current situation.

I don't get why he ever went to Notre Dame. The reason he didn't go to Illinois was he didn't think he could beat out Juice for the QB job, and Notre Dame has a lot more "quality recruits" at QB than Illinois does. NIU is a legit candidate to get him though between chance to play and knowing people on our roster, whether you like it or not.
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NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?
IF this is true, I'll reserve judgement before jumping to any conclussions. we don't know the whole story of what went on/is going on.
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He might find a spot with alot of aa teams and play some this season later or next rather than sitting behind Nich/Blalock/Grady for a year which makes little sense for him.
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i seriously hope we get him. we have next to nothing at the QB position. id at least give him a chance. if he's a crybaby/poor sport send his *** home.

if he gets the starting job he won't have much reason to complain.
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You knew this was gonna happen. Jones did not go to ND to be a backup for 4 years. Kids of his talent expect to play.
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Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?
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#2 overall dual-threat QB in 2006?

if he came to NIU, which i doubt since it's all speculation right now, anyone who said anything negative about that would be crazy
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bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.
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Yeah...its dumb to not want this talent on our roster...noone on our team would beat him out at qb, thats just stupid...
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bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

I am 99.99 percent sure he would not be eligible for any athletics until 2nd semester next academic year (08-09), so no, and since he didn't get hurt but did play here in 2007, this year counts against him on the clock as well. I'm not sure if he is a redshirt freshman or true sophomore (doesn't matter, he'd just redshirt next year if he didn't in 2006 anyways) but either way I believe if he transferred here, he'd first be eligible to play in 2009 as a 4th year (redshirt) junior.

As for Jones rating in recruiting....he's got a ton of talent, but he went to Notre Dame thus his stock was higher than it should be obviously, they always overrated ND recruits. The attitude thing is a bit concerning though, however the idea of him ending up here fits.
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bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.
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HuskieDave Wrote:
bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.

Yes he did
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HuskieDave Wrote:
bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.

Correct, but that doesn't matter since he's not eligible next year. Whether he redshirted last year or didn't (in which case he would do it next year for his transfer year), he'd have 2 years to play 2 years eligibility left (4th year junior) when he became available to play here starting in 2009.
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epasnoopy Wrote:
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bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.

Yes he did

He was a 2006 recruit and he is considered a sophomore this year, that would mean he didn't redshirt in 2006 as a freshman.
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If he is out of school and looking to transfer, if he went to a FBS team he'd effectively lose 2 seasons between this one and sitting out next season. And again, if he left ND so fast, clearly being on the field matters to him.

Go to a FCS program and he can play right away next season...I'd expect SIU or even Appy State or some other top teams from that level to be strong candidates if he wants to play.
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HuskieDave Wrote:
bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.

Redshirting is something completely different than the NCAA requirement that you MUST sit out a year if you transfer from one FBS school (1A) to another FBS school. The transfer requirement is entirely seperate and has nothing to do with redshirting.
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DogTracks Wrote:If he is out of school and looking to transfer, if he went to a FBS team he'd effectively lose 2 seasons between this one and sitting out next season. And again, if he left ND so fast, clearly being on the field matters to him.

Go to a FCS program and he can play right away next season...I'd expect SIU or even Appy State or some other top teams from that level to be strong candidates if he wants to play.

He couldn't play for an FCS team next year either. The point of the 1-AA rule is that transfers in the case of coaching changes/changes of heart BEFORE the season have a chance to play. But no matter what, you have to be out for 2 academic semesters (not participate in athletics) after your last one at the previous school. So even if Jones went to 1-AA, he wouldn't be eligible to play until 2nd semester of the 2008-2009 academic year because he played in a game this fall, and obviously football is over by 2nd semester.
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sounds right, going to a high caliber 1AA team.

i dont really see the attitude problem thing unless there's stuff I don't know about. people transfer all the time due to lack of PT. nobody labels them as crybabies. if i was a very skilled QB I know I wouldn't be fine sitting around on the bench of 5 years.
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HuskieDave Wrote:
epasnoopy Wrote:
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bikechuck Wrote:Would he be eligible next season if he did land in DeKalb?

No. He would not be eligible next season.

Right, the kid already saw playing time at QB vs. Georgia Tech. I think he could be redshirted next season and not lose a year because i don't believe he redshirted as a freshman at ND.

Redshirting is something completely different than the NCAA requirement that you MUST sit out a year if you transfer from one FCS school to another FCS school. The transfer requirement is entirely seperate and has nothing to do with redshirting.

Your correct, but if you still have your redshirt year available, you can use it during the transfer year to keep the year of playing time. We have an example of that on our team this year actually in Anthony Mason, who played at Valpo in 2005 as a true freshman, redshirted during his transfer year last year in 2006, and is a redshirt sophomore this year.
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See post #9 in this thread:

http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/showthread...pid2484692

Thank you, thank you very much.
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I don't see any way he goes 1-AA either. Perhaps if he had been smart and decided this before the season, and could just use this academic years 2 semesters as his transfer time he'd go 1-AA and start as a 3rd year sophomore in 2008 somewhere. But since he screwed the pooch and waited until after he played a game this fall, he can't play any athletics anywhere until 2nd semester next year (aka no football, not even 1-AA) and he obviously wants to play right away and at somewhere of relevance and close to home where he knows people. I think we'd be the favorite to get him right now when you consider the QB situations at places like Northwestern (Bacher), Indiana (Lewis), Iowa (Christensen), and Illinois (Juice, McGee).

Just remember, no matter what your friends at gateway schools tell you, he can't play football at a 1-AA school in 2008 so I doubt he ends up in 1-AA.
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I heard about this a week ago. I think he feels he got blamed for the Georgis Tech game and Clausen is going to be their QB come hell or high water. He made a mistake going there. He would be a nice addition as he would sit out Nicholson's last year and then compete for the starting position. Lets hope the Yorden begins paying dividends.
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The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.
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gcd Wrote:I heard about this a week ago. I think he feels he got blamed for the Georgis Tech game and Clausen is going to be their QB come hell or high water. He made a mistake going there. He would be a nice addition as he would sit out Nicholson's last year and then compete for the starting position. Lets hope the Yorden begins paying dividends.

I am correct in saying he couldn't play 1-AA football next year either because he has to sit out 2 semesters and obviously played this one with the Georgia Tech game correct gcd? I am 99.99 percent sure, but want to make it 100.
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An insider on the Domer Domain message board has stated that it is a done deal and he is headed to NIU. We shall see.
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NIUHuskies86 Wrote:Less than 2 WEEKS after he started the opener at QB, he cried, pouted, quit, and ran home instead of trying to get better?? I don't want somebody like that on our football team, who's to say he won't do it again if Grady or Harnish end up being very good?

you could see it 2 ways:

1. he quit lin the manner you said

2. he saw a situation, that no matter how much he worked, he had no hope of overtaking the "golden boy" Clausen.....

clearly he has talent, and he needs a new change of scenery. i wouldn't mind having him - if agreed to start at the bottom of the depth chart and work his way up....
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NIUHuskies86 Wrote:I don't get why he ever went to Notre Dame. The reason he didn't go to Illinois was he didn't think he could beat out Juice for the QB job, and Notre Dame has a lot more "quality recruits" at QB than Illinois does. NIU is a legit candidate to get him though between chance to play and knowing people on our roster, whether you like it or not.

He was probably told he would be their quarterback of the future when he committed to Weis *before* they signed Jimmy Clausen. With Clausen now entrenched as the ND quarterback for the next 3-4 years he wants out.
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Any report on Paul Blalock and how well he is doing on the scout team?
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HuskieDave Wrote:The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.

Why would he be considering Illinois? Does he want to be a backup there? Illinois is sticking with Williams all four years, they benched their senior QB Tim Brasic to play Williams as a true freshman.
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HuskieDave Wrote:The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.

It would be interesting if he went to Tennessee, where Clausen's brother played.
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HuskieDave Wrote:The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.

Why would he be considering Illinois? Does he want to be a backup there? Illinois is sticking with Williams all four years, they benched their senior QB Tim Brasic to play Williams as a true freshman.

Their backup QB, Eddie McGee, might be even better than Juice, and they just got a verbal this week from a 4 star QB from North Carolina. No way Jones ends up down there.
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Doggone Wrote:An insider on the Domer Domain message board has stated that it is a done deal and he is headed to NIU. We shall see.

It makes the most sense. I'll ask around, and I'm sure others here will too.
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Quick, someone check his facebook....isn't that how we confirmed Paul Blalock's transfer?
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Doggone Wrote:An insider on the Domer Domain message board has stated that it is a done deal and he is headed to NIU. We shall see.

It makes the most sense. I'll ask around, and I'm sure others here will too.

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I could be wrong but that is why I am asking, if he transfers to a I-AA he would be eligable to play next fall correct? Isn't that why Billy Lowe went to 1-AA, so he could play this year? I know that if he goes to a I-A school he can not play till 2009. I am just trying to figure out the transfer rules.
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RE: Demetrius Jones
wow.....Dan Nicholson best start playing up to his abilities now! (if this is true)
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RE: Demetrius Jones
illinoisportsfan Wrote:
HuskieDave Wrote:The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.

It would be interesting if he went to Tennessee, where Clausen's brother played.

Two Clausens played QB at Tennessee. But Tennessee has Jonathan Crompton who was rated the 2nd best QB by Rivals.
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huskiealum03 Wrote:wow.....Dan Nicholson best start playing up to his abilities now! (if this is true)
It has ZERO effect on Nicholson.

Jones wouldn't be eligible until 2009 as a RS Junior, and Nicholson will be gone by then.

I hope D-Jones comes to NIU, and it sounds like he might.

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armour248 Wrote:what is the domer domain board

http://www.domerdomain.com

The same insider later states that he will be eligible in 2008. I don't know how that could be true, but I'm not expert in the transfer rules.
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RE: Demetrius Jones
please, what is the domer dome message board? lol

edit: thanks
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RE: Demetrius Jones
Doggone Wrote:
armour248 Wrote:what is the domer domain board

http://www.domerdomain.com

The same insider later states that he will be eligible in 2008. I don't know how that could be true, but I'm not expert in the transfer rules.
Oh my God if he is eligible next year I will die.

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RE: Demetrius Jones
epasnoopy Wrote:
HuskieDave Wrote:The Rivals ND board indicates that Jones is considering Illinois, Tennessee, Arizona State, Northwestern, and NIU.

Why would he be considering Illinois? Does he want to be a backup there? Illinois is sticking with Williams all four years, they benched their senior QB Tim Brasic to play Williams as a true freshman.

I think he would only consider Illinois if he were willing to play a position other than quarterback. He and Juice Williams are good friends and reportedly didn't want to compete against each other for playing time.
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