NCAAbbs

Okay, after the first two map threads, I decided to see what the conference will look like after expansion. I took several of the most mentioned names, and put them into the C-USA. I tried to make a fair East/West break in there too, so we can see how the divisions will look as well. If an Eastern team is added, I put a blue line which represents Memphis shifting West, and a black line which represents USM shifting West.

Louisiana Tech (no change to footprint):


Miami, Ohio:


North Texas:


Temple:


Toledo:


UTEP:


Part I: <a href='http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/confusa/invision/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=4058&hl=' target='_blank'>Conference USA and BCS Zones Map</a>
Part II: <a href='http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/confusa/invision/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=4183&hl=' target='_blank'>Divison I-A All Conferences Map</a>

Just as long the CUSA map does not spell out "666" I'm fine!:(

North Texas further North? I can drive from Denton to Dallas in 38 minutes. Actually, Denton, Dallas and Fort Worth form a triangle with Denton at the top of that triangle.

Good job. That gives a different perspective
on how far we would travel.

The only thing is NTSU is a little further North, but no
big deal.

NOW....the question. Since we all have agreed it's
on of the six........which one is it?

The board ought to have an official contest. One guess,
....recorded. See who's right and who's wrong.

Winners should be recognized. Listed.

It's going to happen, just a matter of time.

I see now that I put the DFW area too low.... Dallas and Denton should be split by the top border of Louisiana.... moved SMU and UNT up some.

Thanks!

WOW! That third map really puts into perpsective how far UTEP is away from the other Texas schools let alone the other teams. I also didn't know Miami of Ohio was that short of a drive to marshall. BTW congrats marshall fans on your win over Akron last night.

Nice work on the maps. Your maps are a great testament to what an outstanding geographic fit Louisiana Tech is to the NEW CUSA. Eight (8) CUSA schools will literally be within a 5 hour car drive of Ruston.

HD

[quote="Purplehook"] WOW!

When you cross the border from La into Tx on I-10, there's a milage sign that says "El Paso --- 850 Miles" I think that is the best example of how BIG Texas is and how far away UTEP really is.

I wish I could find the picture... I've heard about it, but never seen it. I've wanted to put it on some of the threads before...

That's my only problem with UTEP. I think if UTEP was in UNT or La Tech's place, or anywhere else inside the C-USA footprint, they'd be my first choice, no questions asked.

I agree.....there are a few Memphis Basketball only
junkies that have been pounding for them, but all
things considered they belong in the MWC or WAC.

This map is a good tool to see how far we would drive,
fly or whatever.


I think UTEP is the most unlikely of the 6. No offense
intended. They have good programs for the most part.
Just too far away.

Texarkana, Texas is closer to Chicago than El Paso.
El Paso is closer to Los Angeles than Texarkana.

I think that Temple is too far away too. I don't see them helping the league at all. I know they have good basketball, but I think that we need to be focusing on football, and that is definatley not their strong point.

If La. Tech fits in our "footprint" are they the toe-jam?

Can you re-work the map with some 14 team combinations? I really think that's our best option. The one division (14 team)approach has really been a blessing this year. We have a very strong case for getting six (6) teams in the NCAA tournament this year. In years past, we typically got 2-3 teams with last year being the lone exception (4 teams). Try some of these combinations:

Option 1: Temple, Toledo, Miami-Ohio.
Option 2: Temple, Toledo, Bowling Green
Option 3: Temple, Toledo, La Tech
Option 4: Toledo, Miami-Ohio, La Tech
Option 5: Toledo, Miami-Ohio, Bowling Green

You get the idea. You throw North Texas or even Middle Tennessee State in there if you want too. Not that I'm promo'ing the Blue Raiders.


:own3d:

Here you go... A choose your own teams map...


Pick as many teams as you'd like. The Red lines is the base C-USA footprint outline. If one of the teams you want to see lies outside the red lines (i.e. anyone but La Tech or MTSU), then ignore the red lines and follow the lines of the color of the school you added instead. If you pick Temple and one of the MAC schools, follow the appropriate black line between the two.

I actually think that is kind of funny.

Let's just go ahead and add all 8 and Boise State.

Toe Jam or Athlete's Foot, it's kinda bothersome like they are.

Nice job. In every scenario you have put Memphis in the East. Since we are farther west than Southern Miss, there some cases where we more logically belong in the West (where I much prefer to be). Some of our fans will strongly disagree, but they are the ones who do not appreciate the great value of having SMU and Rice.

Good Maps

But I still say if the 3 northern schools say no, its obvious were down to la tech or north texas. Problems neither one offers much to C-USA. Considering our choices between the two I say we invite neither, stay 11 and play ball.

North Texas is head and shoulders over La Tech, so IF we must pick I would say it must be North Texas. They would only set the conference back a couple of years where La Tech could be the death of C-USA.

I've been opposed to adding another Northern school to this "new" C-USA. However, perhaps we could do the following and make sure everyone has at least one school (travel partner) that is relatively close by:

EAST DIVISION - travel partners
UCF and Florida Atlantic (say what you will, but I like the idea of having both Howard Schnellenberger and George O'Leary in C-USA)
Marshall, East Carolina, and Miami (Ohio)
Memphis and UAB

WEST DIVISION - travel partners
North Texas, Tulsa, and SMU
Rice and Houston
Tulane and Southern Miss

What do you guys think? Positive criticism only, please.

AN UPDATED EPISTLE:

I look at last Fall's power ratings for all schools coming into CUSA or those being discussed about possibly joining and I have to wonder how NORTH TEXAS sets any non BCS conference back 2 years? :rolleyes: UNT would not be coming into CUSA hat in hand while looking down at our shoes. We'd come in as a school that is used to going to bowl games each December. NOTE: UNT Coach Darrell Dickey's football team this next Fall could actually be his best team of date with all the players he has re-loaded with.

UNT basketball? Former Memphis interim coach Johnny Jones is putting together what will eventually be a year in and year out winning basketball program AND in what would immediately be one of CUSA's top 3 on-campus basketball venues, ie, the 10,000 plus seat Super Pit if NORTH TEXAS were a member.

The University of North Texas is not spending what will end up being around $100 million for a new (almost) 200 acre "football oriented" Mean Green Village that sets between 2 Texas interstates adjacent to our campus just so we can become a minor bit player in a BCS football play no matter who becomes (or remains) our conference stage.

<>*<> AN AMAZING NCAA PHENOMENA: University of South Florida was added to CUSA with few from the league knowing about that school at the time that school was added. I mean how many bowl games in their history? How about none? I still marvel at the ascent of the south Florida school who just sits there without having yet to go to a bowl in its history yet becomes a BCS school in the Big East without having unpacked their CUSA bags---simply an amazing story, we all should have our NCAA existence so easy.

Nevertheless, USF was added to CUSA because of their potential and market. UNT comes in with 3 bowl appearances in a row (others in our past) and with possibly our best team in the Darrell Dickey era reporting to Fall camp this August. Bowl game appearances are not going to slow down in Denton no matter our conference affiliation. Yet anyone would agree that teams who go to bowls bring in revenue to each CUSA school and TV coverage to their conference as a good trade-off.

UNT's OOC schedule each Fall is of a national nature (as in Top 10 competition) and one that is prone to be televisied, ie, OU, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee in the near future, etc, etc, etc, We open with the Texas Longhorns this Fall. No petite petunias on the Mean Green non conference schedule and rarely have those Top 10 schools blown us out of the stadium. Hellsbells, UNT played the OU Sooners much closer than the UT Horns did at their annual October State Fair of Texas shootout last Fall.
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Yet whoever CUSA Commissioner Banowsky sees as the best fit(s) for now will be who he proposes and puts in front of the presidents of CUSA who will do the actual voting. I am sure he will make a nice presentation on behalf of that school(s). I'd bet not one of these CUSA CEO's have seen any of our school's or conferences unofficial athletic message boards--you know, as if they have the time to read all our lagniape in the first place?

I wiill be content as a UNT alum with these CUSA CEO's decision whether its us or not because we are in a win-win scenario being in the SBC or CUSA. Either league already gives us a great opportunity to go to a CUSA/SBC bowl game that is arguably one of the top 3 bowl destination cities that Mean Green fans have already traveled to by untold thousands. Traveling fans to CUSA bowl games I would think another important criteria that UNT already has shown to pass that lithmus test.

After its all done and said, its going to those bowl games, getting even more national TV exposure for a league and our football players getting to wear those championship rings that is allowing our program to flourish and be where we are even discussing CUSA membership.

UNT is a work in progress...a simple visit by some of you would show you what the end result of this work in progress will produce and produce in a short time. The work, the construction and the building is happening now as I post and as you read.

Okay, so that was wishful thinking on my part, perhaps.... if it comes to it, I hope USM goes west so that Memphis can be our permanent cross-division rival in the East... if both Memphis and Tulane go west, I'm afraid we'll lose the Battle for the Bell or the Black & Blue game.

But, I've added a blue line that instead puts Memphis in the West and USM in the East on the ones that add an Eastern team.

memphis needs to stay east then if usm goes west, the tulane & memphis games (plus ecu) are the only games i hope wont get screwed up in the new cusa

:rofl: The maps look like you are trying to find some sacred geometry to the destruction of the BCS conferences! :rofl:

When they can get more than 7,500 a game come back and talk to me... And don't come back with well if they had better competiton they would... The fact is they avg 7,211 a game. NO THANKS

From a geographical standpoint, the combination of Miami-Ohio, Middle Tennessee State & La Tech looks very attractive. However, I think that a combination involving Toledo, Miami-Ohio and either Temple or La Tech would be more fruitful in the long run.

Agreed...they sure are far off. :eek:

Amen to that!!!

NO FAU

Big foot....