Someone has did a good job of developing him and Jordan has done a good job of wanting to develop. He did alot of things that won't show up in the stat sheet.
1) He knows how to read the defense. Every time we did a hard double team he quickly got the ball out his hand. When we did a soft double team he quickly went through the crease for an easy shot or pass to the open man. He was very patient with the ball and took what was given to him.
2) On defense he went straight up to block or alter shots. He didn't lean into the player. Of course it helps that he is 7 feet.
3) As a defender, he rotated quickly and was aware where the ball was at and anticipated passes and didn't overplay the lane or the person he was defending.
Our post players would benefit reviewing how he played. He'll be in the league next season.
Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
(11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
(11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
(11-18-2009 01:08 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
Big men are the hardest to develop but give you the most bang for the buck when the hard work starts to pay off. Alot of people fail to realize that when big men get to college they are young men that are not use to their body and usually don't have the right techniques for balance and stamina. In high school they could dominate because of their height and really didn't have to go up against other tall dominating kids frequently. So fundamentally they usually don't have the proper footwork, stances, and know how to play patiently. Also they don't know how to read offenses and defenses since more than likely they just relied on their height to shoot over defenders or block shots of smaller players. Hopefully Bails will get it together. He has the potential.
(11-18-2009 01:08 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
I see Gus Leeper as that type of player. Still maturing, but very bright and coachable. As he gets in the weight room and gets stronger, plus develops his skills working with Big Joe, he probably will be the type of inside player we're looking for. Not spectacular, but very solid. Hopefully a good free throw shooter. Two or three years from now, he could be the man inside for us.

(11-18-2009 01:08 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
Jordan has a pretty interesting back story. He's from Jamaica and tried to catch on with a couple of prep school teams in the US; one was a hoax and had him selling cookies to pay his way in NYC and the other belonged to a league that wouldn't let him play his senior year. Wojcik found out about him; our board got word that we might be looking at a seven footer from a school in Florida that sat out, and lo and behold, someone found a site that listed a 7'0, 18 year old trainer.
If he had played that year, he would have been at Duke or somewhere like that. A couple of schools, like St. John's, offered him sight unseen when they found out we had offered,
He was really rough his first year. He would get bad cramps and could really only make a couple of trips back and down the court. He was just totally raw. But, by the end of the year they threw him in the starting lineup and he blossomed late the next season. Larry Brown noticed him in the C-USA tourney that year and JJ eventually got an invite to LeBron James Skills Academy
Many thought he would be in the NBA this year, but he came back and that was huge for our team. It's also a lot of fun because a lot of our own message board experts used to say he would never start for us.
My apologies if the diatribe bored anyone, but in case you're interested, I thought you might enjoy that.
(11-18-2009 03:09 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:08 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
Jordan has a pretty interesting back story. He's from Jamaica and tried to catch on with a couple of prep school teams in the US; one was a hoax and had him selling cookies to pay his way in NYC and the other belonged to a league that wouldn't let him play his senior year. Wojcik found out about him; our board got word that we might be looking at a seven footer from a school in Florida that sat out, and lo and behold, someone found a site that listed a 7'0, 18 year old trainer.
If he had played that year, he would have been at Duke or somewhere like that. A couple of schools, like St. John's, offered him sight unseen when they found out we had offered,
He was really rough his first year. He would get bad cramps and could really only make a couple of trips back and down the court. He was just totally raw. But, by the end of the year they threw him in the starting lineup and he blossomed late the next season. Larry Brown noticed him in the C-USA tourney that year and JJ eventually got an invite to LeBron James Skills Academy
Many thought he would be in the NBA this year, but he came back and that was huge for our team. It's also a lot of fun because a lot of our own message board experts used to say he would never start for us.
My apologies if the diatribe bored anyone, but in case you're interested, I thought you might enjoy that.
That was not boring at all. Thank you for sharing this pretty amazing stories. We've had a few players in the past who would have been better off selling cookies!

(11-18-2009 03:15 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 03:09 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:08 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 01:05 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ] (11-18-2009 12:57 PM)The Big Kielbasa Wrote: [ -> ]Cool post. Thanks for doing that!
There wasn't much not to like about him. Thanks for your insightful post. I may not watch as much of the finer point of the game, as you do, but I just know he looked like a heck of a player.
Someone at Tulsa did a heck of a job developing that young man. I think they said on the broadcast that he didn't play, or played very little, in high school. I had hopes we could develop Derrick Bails into a player like that. Unfortunately, our time is running out to do that.
Jordan has a pretty interesting back story. He's from Jamaica and tried to catch on with a couple of prep school teams in the US; one was a hoax and had him selling cookies to pay his way in NYC and the other belonged to a league that wouldn't let him play his senior year. Wojcik found out about him; our board got word that we might be looking at a seven footer from a school in Florida that sat out, and lo and behold, someone found a site that listed a 7'0, 18 year old trainer.
If he had played that year, he would have been at Duke or somewhere like that. A couple of schools, like St. John's, offered him sight unseen when they found out we had offered,
He was really rough his first year. He would get bad cramps and could really only make a couple of trips back and down the court. He was just totally raw. But, by the end of the year they threw him in the starting lineup and he blossomed late the next season. Larry Brown noticed him in the C-USA tourney that year and JJ eventually got an invite to LeBron James Skills Academy
Many thought he would be in the NBA this year, but he came back and that was huge for our team. It's also a lot of fun because a lot of our own message board experts used to say he would never start for us.
My apologies if the diatribe bored anyone, but in case you're interested, I thought you might enjoy that.
That was not boring at all. Thank you for sharing this pretty amazing stories. We've had a few players in the past who would have been better off selling cookies!
That's about as good as the story about Erwin Johnson, the center who played at UNO and then for a long time in the NBA. Was bagging groceries at the local grocery store. Called the UNO coach and said he was "Erwin Johnson" and wanted to try out for his team. Coach said "sure you are", but apparently told him to come by. Turned out to be a great player for New Orleans, and apparently a decent NBA player.