On Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility - Dale Arnett does a good job at keeping the number of bowl eligible teams and the number of teams that can become eligible.
Currently there are 52 teams eligible for 68 slots. By my count, there are 21 teams that have the possibility of becoming eligible. So worst case, there will be 5 teams that are eligible but not playing anywhere.
It's really too bad that this WMU team could go to a bowl game when the Tim Lester / Jeff Welsh teams sat home. Nothing against this team, it's just unfortunate the way the system is now and was then.
(11-14-2009 04:21 PM)thegeneral Wrote: [ -> ]On Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility - Dale Arnett does a good job at keeping the number of bowl eligible teams and the number of teams that can become eligible.
Currently there are 52 teams eligible for 68 slots. By my count, there are 21 teams that have the possibility of becoming eligible. So worst case, there will be 5 teams that are eligible but not playing anywhere.
It's really too bad that this WMU team could go to a bowl game when the Tim Lester / Jeff Welsh teams sat home. Nothing against this team, it's just unfortunate the way the system is now and was then.
Thats amazing. If your numbers are right, which I do not doubt, it almost seems inevitable that WMU gets in w/a win over BSU.
NIU and Sun Belts FAU got in w/6 last year.
Do we really want WMU to go to a bowl?
(11-14-2009 04:55 PM)BCBronco Wrote: [ -> ]Do we really want WMU to go to a bowl?
for the sake of practice time...yes
for the sake of getting our fudge packed on national tv...no
(11-14-2009 05:00 PM)broncos24 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2009 04:55 PM)BCBronco Wrote: [ -> ]Do we really want WMU to go to a bowl?
for the sake of practice time...yes
for the sake of getting our fudge packed on national tv...no
Good point, and LOL.
Mmmmm, I love fudge!
Yes, a bowl game would provide more benefits than downsides.
This team is has lost to three Big 10 teams, a very good CMU team, and a decent NIU team. One bad loss to Kent State.
The sky has not fallen.
Are you buying what I'm sellin'?
Also, the marketing for a possible bowl game would be that Western would be showcasing it's NCAA record breaking running back, Brandon West, and one of the most prolific MAC quarterbacks in history, Tim Hiller.
Western was predicted to be 7 and 4 by Sporting News. They came up short of that prediction by one game to possibly conclude 6 and 6.
I agree, that that loss to Indiana was painful for it would have given us a winning season and a bowl bid. The team was erratic but certainly shows much promise. I also think Hiller will have a chance to play at the next level as will West.
Arnheim has emerged as an amazingly dependable receiver.
Wouldn't a bowl game let Hiller pad his TD stats?
(11-14-2009 06:42 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't a bowl game let Hiller pad his TD stats?
CMU prof? WOW, sometimes I kid my students telling them, "if you're not careful, you may end up at CMU!"
(11-14-2009 06:58 PM)BCBronco Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2009 06:42 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't a bowl game let Hiller pad his TD stats?
CMU prof? WOW, sometimes I kid my students telling them, "if you're not careful, you may end up at CMU!"
LOL! For real LOL!!! I needed that, thanks.
I don't think we deserve a bowl game, but it would be great to get one. Added practice time is a nice benefit that would result from it. But I hope like heck we play a manageable team (is Hofstra available?) because we will get smoked by just about everyone else. Another embarrassment would be no fun.
Oh get over yourself. Jeeze, a bowl game would be good for everyone, and who knows? Maybe they fix what ails then in the weeks in between.
D@mn bunch of panzies.
(11-14-2009 05:24 PM)MmphsBronco Wrote: [ -> ]Mmmmm, I love fudge!
Its posts like this that keep me coming back to this board every time I turn the laptop on. That's just funny; I don't care who you are.
So far, the MAC should get an easy four bowls. So far, it's on with GMAC, Little Caesar's, Toronto, and EagleBank. Getting one more will be tough.
The ACC should screw up and provide the MAC with the EagleBank bid. Army can't beat Navy so C-USA should face the MAC, again.
Due to the Big 12 maxing out some of their previous bowl tie-ins, they're losing a bowl to ND or the Big East. The Big East may lose that hand-me-down anyway so that might open up. Hopefully, ND travels far away where they can't bother the rest of us.
At best, I think the fifth bid will be either WMU or BG. I'd be ecstatic with six bids.
Just by looking at the "must win out" category....These teams are unlikely to pull it off...Duke, Louisville, Michigan, Kansas St., Baylor, Toledo and UNLV.
(11-14-2009 10:03 PM)AFLAGWA Wrote: [ -> ]Just by looking at the "must win out" category....These teams are unlikely to pull it off...Duke, Louisville, Michigan, Kansas St., Baylor, Toledo and UNLV.
General great site.
Updated
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility
I saw something on this site that brought up this question...
for Duke, it says that their win against North Carolina Central does NOT count towards their bowl eligibility...I know the rule is only 1 win against a FCS teams can count toward your bowl eligibility...
However, Duke lost to Richmond (FCS) in their season opener...so why doesn't their win over NCC count??
I would say that since it is their second game against a D1-AA school, that it does not count.
(11-14-2009 06:42 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't a bowl game let Hiller pad his TD stats?
I was thinking the same thing. Give Hiller and West the first half to do some things, then put in the up-and-comers to get some game experience before next season. Treat it like the third pre-season game for the NFL; all the starters get some quality minutes, then see what the future holds.
(11-15-2009 11:39 AM)GRPunk Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2009 06:42 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't a bowl game let Hiller pad his TD stats?
I was thinking the same thing. Give Hiller and West the first half to do some things, then put in the up-and-comers to get some game experience before next season. Treat it like the third pre-season game for the NFL; all the starters get some quality minutes, then see what the future holds.
Yeah, that won't happen unless...well it won't happen.
So, there are basically 23 teams that are competing for 8 spots. I didn't study it super closely, but I would imagine that some of those teams will wind up eliminating each other. For example, Toledo has to win out, BG has to win one of two, and they play each other (I should have paid more attention to BG's other opponent). Point being, mathematically, it probably isn't possible for all 23 teams to even be eligible. Truth be told, I just want to see us win one more game and let the chips fall where they may.
Chips falling usually warms my heart. But I don't see it happening.
(11-14-2009 04:21 PM)thegeneral Wrote: [ -> ]On Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility - Dale Arnett does a good job at keeping the number of bowl eligible teams and the number of teams that can become eligible.
Currently there are 52 teams eligible for 68 slots. By my count, there are 21 teams that have the possibility of becoming eligible. So worst case, there will be 5 teams that are eligible but not playing anywhere.
It's really too bad that this WMU team could go to a bowl game when the Tim Lester / Jeff Welsh teams sat home. Nothing against this team, it's just unfortunate the way the system is now and was then.
I would have played in 4 bowl games under the current system. We won 7 games each of the four years I lettered all in 11 game seasons.
Yep, you would have. Would have loved to have seen you play against Georgia Tech's triple option this year Kimbo, that would have been an epic matchup of strengths. I can't get enough of that offense.
On the wikipedia page, I now count 26 teams that may still become bowl eligible and only 7 spots remaining.
So it seems the page wasn't quite accurate when I originally posted it. It's not that likely we will get a bowl game.
Getting to a bowl would mean a month to 1 1/2 months extra practice this fall. It'd also be a reward to the seniors. But it would mean less focus on recruiting by the coaches, so it's a tradeoff.
And I wonder how much better Hiller's knees would feel with a month off...if they don't need surgery again that is.