Every fan I talk to seems to have an idea of what the Grizzlies need to do or SHOULD HAVE done with trades, draft picks, etc. SO here is a thread dedicated to the fans who think they can be a GM. Post ur trade proposals or draft picks and let's see the reaction u get..
Conley, Mayo and 2nd Round Pick to PHX for Amare Stoudemire.
Picked up Raymond Felton in FA
Draft Tyreke Evans with #2 pick
First of all, I would have gone with Tyreke/Blair instead of Thabeet/Young. Then I would ship Conley as far away from this organization as I could get him. All the rest of the off-season moves were ok with me. I'd start AI at point. The main argument against that is people say he is not a point guard. So what. He has better leadership skills, ball handling skills, court vision, and confidence than anyone else on the team. I want the ball in his hands.
PG - Allen Iverson/Tyreke Evans/Marcus Williams
SG - OJ Mayo/Tyreke Evans/Allen Iverson
SF - Rudy Gay/DeMarre Carroll/Trey Gilder
PF - Zach Randolph/DeJuan Blair/Darrell Arthur
C - Marc Gasol/Steven Hunter/Hamed Haddadi
Victory.
Then after this season when Hollins contract expires, I let him walk and promote Dave Joerger to head coach. 8th seed guaranteed next season...guaranteed.
The Griz have too much talent to suck consistanly. Sooner or later it has to come around. Mayo is an interesting option. He is young and telented and has high demand. However the Griz dont NEED him. Id like to see what we coudl get for a package inclusing Mayo.. Gay is the only guy Id put up a fight for at this time. Maybe Gasol.
I'd trade Conley and Gay. My first priority would be getting an all-star point guard like Chris Paul or Deron Williams. I'd go after another SF in free agency, and use the two first round picks in next year's draft to build the bench.
The only untouchable players on the roster would be OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol. Mayo has all-star potential and Gasol could become one of the best centers in the league.
(10-30-2009 12:34 AM)MOVES Wrote: [ -> ]The Griz have too much talent to suck consistanly. Sooner or later it has to come around. Mayo is an interesting option. He is young and telented and has high demand. However the Griz dont NEED him. Id like to see what we coudl get for a package inclusing Mayo.. Gay is the only guy Id put up a fight for at this time. Maybe Gasol.
It is not going to come around anytime soon. Those guys do not play defense and do not hustle. Talented yes, but not coming around until they change their mindset. They put up that message with AI and Gay at the start saying they were going to dive on the floor for balls and do this and that. Then a loose ball five feet from Rudy and he jogged after it until a Piston's player came sliding on the floor and took the ball. We need Shane or someone like him to teach these guys about playing D and working hard. I will be there tonight, but do not expect anything different.
(10-30-2009 07:32 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]I'd trade Conley and Gay. My first priority would be getting an all-star point guard like Chris Paul or Deron Williams. I'd go after another SF in free agency, and use the two first round picks in next year's draft to build the bench.
The only untouchable players on the roster would be OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol. Mayo has all-star potential and Gasol could become one of the best centers in the league.
I agree. Conley and gay would be the pieces i would trade possibly. I wouldn't let oj or marc go anywhere right now.
However, at this point, the grizz just need to roll with what they got. Maybe some star player on another team becomes unhappy, and we can make a trade later in the year. If nothing else, the grizz should get a really good player next year in the draft to add to this team. They will be several really good nba players at several different positions coming into the league next year.
As for the time being, even though i don't like AI as much as some of you do, but i would start him at point guard and hope team chemistry problems don't arise.
As for what happened in the past, some here have posted their views the whole time. It makes no sense to go back now and say yeah, we should have done this instead. It's over with now. I'm not going there.
Someone needs to convince rudy gay he can play better defense. He has all the tools. Long arms, he's tall, quick, and athletic.
Gay has it all. Mayo is 6'4" so he is too big for PG and a little too short for SG. More teams would be interested in Mayo than they would be Gay
(10-30-2009 12:24 AM)Jenkz Wrote: [ -> ]First of all, I would have gone with Tyreke/Blair instead of Thabeet/Young. Then I would ship Conley as far away from this organization as I could get him. All the rest of the off-season moves were ok with me. I'd start AI at point. The main argument against that is people say he is not a point guard. So what. He has better leadership skills, ball handling skills, court vision, and confidence than anyone else on the team. I want the ball in his hands.
PG - Allen Iverson/Tyreke Evans/Marcus Williams
SG - OJ Mayo/Tyreke Evans/Allen Iverson
SF - Rudy Gay/DeMarre Carroll/Trey Gilder
PF - Zach Randolph/DeJuan Blair/Darrell Arthur
C - Marc Gasol/Steven Hunter/Hamed Haddadi
Victory.
Then after this season when Hollins contract expires, I let him walk and promote Dave Joerger to head coach. 8th seed guaranteed next season...guaranteed.
Other than the fact that I like Sam Young over Blair, down with the rest of it. Conley is way too timid, saw that the other night against the Pistons.
I know someone suggested Amar'e, but with his injuries and the doubt that he would sign here long term, no way I would trade for him. If our draft would have been Evans/Young/Carroll, I would have been good with it. I am hoping Thabeet and Conley develop, but I don't see it. Thabeet isn't Thabust yet, but his chances sure are good to be Thabust. If the guy could be a Deke Mutombo in 5 years, I would be good with that, but he has to have a mean streak. Maybe Z-Bo should just punch him in the face every day in practice until he just goes off? I think Z-Bo will be better than everyone thinks he will. He is motivated to prove people wrong. I was ok with that trade for Darko in essence.
Jenkz is right. We should have drafted Tyreke and Blair. Although, I still love Young and Carroll. I say trade Gay and Conely, and let Carroll and Young do their thing. Conely stinks and Gay plays no defense.
No way I would've drafted Tyreke. OJ Mayo is better, and Tyreke would be coming off the bench. Bad move for a team that desperately needed help in the frontcourt.
Off season moves are much better than under West...draft is only a little better...like Jenkz pointed out...
they have come out of the last two drafts with Darell Arthur, Hasheem Thabeet and Sam Young when they could've drafted CDR, Tyreke and Blair...ouch.
(10-31-2009 12:38 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Off season moves are much better than under West...draft is only a little better...like Jenkz pointed out...
they have come out of the last two drafts with Darell Arthur, Hasheem Thabeet and Sam Young when they could've drafted CDR, Tyreke and Blair...ouch.
Everyone passed on CDR in the first round.
They skipped on Tyreke because they didn't need a 2-guard.
The Grizzlies low first round pick and second round pick were pretty good without Blair.
(10-31-2009 12:34 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]No way I would've drafted Tyreke. OJ Mayo is better, and Tyreke would be coming off the bench. Bad move for a team that desperately needed help in the frontcourt.
While I agree with you completely, most posters on this board would question your Tigers fanhood for actually proposing that we didn't need a former Tiger in the draft!
(10-31-2009 12:45 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:38 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Off season moves are much better than under West...draft is only a little better...like Jenkz pointed out...
they have come out of the last two drafts with Darell Arthur, Hasheem Thabeet and Sam Young when they could've drafted CDR, Tyreke and Blair...ouch.
Everyone passed on CDR in the first round.
They skipped on Tyreke because they didn't need a 2-guard.
The Grizzlies low first round pick and second round pick were pretty good without Blair.
I disagree on passing on Tyreke for any reason. We've seen time and time again over the years how passing on talent for a guy who just has size rarely works out. You can't take that risk with a #2 pick, and if you can't dominate in college at 7'3" then you aren't going to be a stud in the NBA. Maybe the big guy eventually proves me wrong. Coming off the bench or not, Tyreke was a commodity. When you are building a team you take commodities not huge gambles with a top 3 pick.
(10-31-2009 01:26 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:45 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:38 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Off season moves are much better than under West...draft is only a little better...like Jenkz pointed out...
they have come out of the last two drafts with Darell Arthur, Hasheem Thabeet and Sam Young when they could've drafted CDR, Tyreke and Blair...ouch.
Everyone passed on CDR in the first round.
They skipped on Tyreke because they didn't need a 2-guard.
The Grizzlies low first round pick and second round pick were pretty good without Blair.
I disagree on passing on Tyreke for any reason. We've seen time and time again over the years how passing on talent for a guy who just has size rarely works out. You can't take that risk with a #2 pick, and if you can't dominate in college at 7'3" then you aren't going to be a stud in the NBA. Maybe the big guy eventually proves me wrong. Coming off the bench or not, Tyreke was a commodity. When you are building a team you take commodities not huge gambles with a top 3 pick.
I disagree. Tyreke would be less of a commodity and more of a novelty with the Grizzlies.
def would not have drafted thebust
I am going to assume you would draft Tyreke? Without using the term, "because he was great with the Tigers" or using the words: "he", "played", and "Tigers" in the same sentence tell me how he would be the best fit into the Grizzlies system or plan.
If you have someone else then don't worry the first part of the post, I'd just like to know.
Grizzlies drafted a position that we needed depth at. We took a guy who is 7'3 and who altered a plethora of shots in college (can't think of the exact number but he was having like 4-6 blocks pg). We got a guy who consistently improved with each year that he played. In any case, with the amount of games that we lost by 10 points or fewer last year, a 7'3 shot blocker/rebounder is someone that could help the Grizzlies in altering shots, especially when we were giving up easy drives into the lane...we needed someone there. That guy was Thabeet.
(10-31-2009 01:51 AM)nhillis Wrote: [ -> ]I am going to assume you would draft Tyreke? Without using the term, "because he was great with the Tigers" or using the words: "he", "played", and "Tigers" in the same sentence tell me how he would be the best fit into the Grizzlies system or plan.
If you have someone else then don't worry the first part of the post, I'd just like to know.
Grizzlies drafted a position that we needed depth at. We took a guy who is 7'3 and who altered a plethora of shots in college (can't think of the exact number but he was having like 4-6 blocks pg). We got a guy who consistently improved with each year that he played. In any case, with the amount of games that we lost by 10 points or fewer last year, a 7'3 shot blocker/rebounder is someone that could help the Grizzlies in altering shots, especially when we were giving up easy drives into the lane...we needed someone there. That guy was Thabeet.
but was he worthy of a #2 pick. hell no, tyreke, whether a tiger or not, has everything the grizz needed. thabust didnt even play a min tonight. #2 draft picks start and play all game. you are wrong!!!
Nah, I am not wrong. First of all your use of "thebust" is indicative that you a) watch Jim Rome and Colin Cowherd (a whole lot) and, b) really think those types of guys are cool. Secondly, we can disagree, but I see defense that we needed. Tyreke would have been a novelty. If we are going to stay as gung-ho with Conley and Mayo, then Evans would not have gotten the chance to develop into the player he will be at Sacramento. Everyone wanting to see Tyreke with the Grizzlies is just the fact that no matter what the system is or who the player is, they (the Tigers fans) want to ram those players into said system even if it potentially could ruin those players because they won't get the proper fit into the right system. As a result, they hate the Grizzlies because they "have it out for the Tigers."
I am not up to date on Thabeet chalking up a DNP, but I also am not worried in the slightest. If he alters 5 shots a game, he is successful for the Grizzlies.
(10-31-2009 02:11 AM)nhillis Wrote: [ -> ]Nah, I am not wrong. First of all your use of "thebust" is indicative that you a) watch Jim Rome and Colin Cowherd (a whole lot) and, b) really think those types of guys are cool. Secondly, we can disagree, but I see defense that we needed. Tyreke would have been a novelty. If we are going to stay as gung-ho with Conley and Mayo, then Evans would not have gotten the chance to develop into the player he will be at Sacramento. Everyone wanting to see Tyreke with the Grizzlies is just the fact that no matter what the system is or who the player is, they (the Tigers fans) want to ram those players into said system even if it potentially could ruin those players because they won't get the proper fit into the right system. As a result, they hate the Grizzlies because they "have it out for the Tigers."
no i actually hate both of those guys, so we can agree on something. i am not only a tiger fan, but a big grizz fan, and yes we do need defense, but with the #2 pick shouldnt that player be playin immediately on a sub .500 team? demarre carroll is the answer on defense and we drafted him at #27. i would have taken evans, he is a huge uprgrade over conley, right?
I am not up to date on Thabeet chalking up a DNP, but I also am not worried in the slightest. If he alters 5 shots a game, he is successful for the Grizzlies.
no i actually hate both of those guys, so we can agree on something. i am not only a tiger fan, but a big grizz fan, and yes we do need defense, but with the #2 pick shouldnt that player be playin immediately on a sub .500 team? demarre carroll is the answer on defense and we drafted him at #27. i would have taken evans, he is a huge uprgrade over conley, right?
ha ha, sorry bout that not sure how that happened
(10-31-2009 02:30 AM)tigers311 Wrote: [ -> ]no i actually hate both of those guys, so we can agree on something. i am not only a tiger fan, but a big grizz fan, and yes we do need defense, but with the #2 pick shouldnt that player be playin immediately on a sub .500 team? demarre carroll is the answer on defense and we drafted him at #27. i would have taken evans, he is a huge uprgrade over conley, right?
ha ha, sorry bout that not sure how that happened
Mike Conley Jr. is really an inconsistent player and looks like he does not get how to play point guard in the National Basketball Association, and that is truly sad for a Grizzlies fan here. The Memphis Grizzlies really do need a point guard tigers311, but they needed a true shotblocking and rebounding presence more in my humble opinion. I feel you can get a good backcourt option much easier than the other through free agency or in the NBA draft.
(10-31-2009 01:14 AM)nhillis Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:34 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]No way I would've drafted Tyreke. OJ Mayo is better, and Tyreke would be coming off the bench. Bad move for a team that desperately needed help in the frontcourt.
While I agree with you completely, most posters on this board would question your Tigers fanhood for actually proposing that we didn't need a former Tiger in the draft!
I would like Tyreke Evans as an National Basketball Associaiton because of his size and strentgth in the Association will help him immensely in my humble opinion. I like Blair because he is a good player and you know what you get. Carroll is a you know what you get kind of player as well. i know Hasheem Thabeet will never be a twenty point scorer, but as long is he a dominating shotblocer and rebounder, that is really what the Memphis Grizziles really need.
(10-31-2009 02:02 AM)tigers311 Wrote: [ -> ]hell no, tyreke, whether a tiger or not, has everything the grizz needed.
What they needed most was rebounding and shot blocking. Tyreke gives you neither.
(10-31-2009 08:15 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 02:02 AM)tigers311 Wrote: [ -> ]hell no, tyreke, whether a tiger or not, has everything the grizz needed.
What they needed most was rebounding and shot blocking. Tyreke gives you neither.
I totally agree with the other Greg Childers on the need of a better frontcourt player, since the lack of a quality five in the National Basketball Association can help immensely in the win department. In the end, I think it was indeed a right move for them.
Thabeet and Randolph will both help Marc Gasol out a bunch because he won't have to do all the work down low any more.
Lots of people suggested to trade down and get brandon jennings and another player for that #2 pick once it became obvious rubio wouldn't play for them. Jennings nearly had a triple double in his first nba game. Picking and sticking with thabeet was a total waste if he can't even give them good backup minutes. I noticed they didn't even play him last night.
One game doesn't make a season.
there were many options they could have gone for - like the poster a few posts up said, you take commodities - always draft talent first, need second...if they didn't take Tyreke they could have drafted a talent like Derozan or Jennings or Flynn or Curry...sure, the Grizz needed rebounding and a shot blocker, but Thabeet is way too risky...you draft talent and you have leverage and ability to trade for what you want, especially with the Grizz stockpiling draft picks and having expiring contracts coming up...
The Grizzlies have four contracts that drop off at the end of the season:
$3.7M Steven Hunter
$3.0M Allen Iverson
$2.0M Jerry Stackhouse
$850K Marcus Williams
Rudy Gay is a restricted free agent next year. The Grizzlies have told Marko Jaric to shop around for a new team, which would free up $7M.
Plus, the LA Lakers still owe the Grizzlies one more first round pick.
Right now, the Grizzlies are better than they've been since the playoff years. If they can continue making smart roster moves, they could be a force in the West.
(10-31-2009 09:08 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]The Grizzlies have four contracts that drop off at the end of the season:
$3.7M Steven Hunter
$3.0M Allen Iverson
$2.0M Jerry Stackhouse
$850K Marcus Williams
Rudy Gay is a restricted free agent next year. The Grizzlies have told Marko Jaric to shop around for a new team, which would free up $7M.
Plus, the LA Lakers still owe the Grizzlies one more first round pick.
Right now, the Grizzlies are better than they've been since the playoff years. If they can continue making smart roster moves, they could be a force in the West.
good stuff...hopefully some of these picks can work out in the next few seasons...but the Grizz do have a lot of room to move around.
(10-31-2009 08:48 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]One game doesn't make a season.
No, but Marc Gasol has looked like a legit NBA center and we saw last night why Z-Bo was brought in here. I still think Evans would have been great to bring in, because he would give us someone who goes to the goal. Conley doesn't get in the paint enough. Evans would have been great for Mayo and Gay (not to mention the bigs) by getting in the paint and creating havoc. For those that don't think Evans would have been good for us, imagine if we had a guy at the 1 whose one mission on the court is get to the rim.
I don't think we will be able to measure Thabeet until a few years from now as he is a project. I would not have drafted him #2, but understand why they did. If they see a huge upside and rebounding/shot blocking presence, I can see that he MIGHT have that. I just have personally never been a Thabeet fan as he isn't tough enough.
I tell you what I loved is that the Raptors coach said after the game is that "we just couldn't handle their size" - when is the last time we had legit bigs that people just couldn't handle? Never. I loved seeing the chemistry and passing between Z-Bo and Gasol last night (especially high-low). Z-Bo wasn't a black hole, I just hope he keeps that up, because the dude can play. I also think Iverson would jump start the offense. I am becoming less of a fan of Conley by the day.
(10-31-2009 01:39 AM)nhillis Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 01:26 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:45 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 12:38 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Off season moves are much better than under West...draft is only a little better...like Jenkz pointed out...
they have come out of the last two drafts with Darell Arthur, Hasheem Thabeet and Sam Young when they could've drafted CDR, Tyreke and Blair...ouch.
Everyone passed on CDR in the first round.
They skipped on Tyreke because they didn't need a 2-guard.
The Grizzlies low first round pick and second round pick were pretty good without Blair.
I disagree on passing on Tyreke for any reason. We've seen time and time again over the years how passing on talent for a guy who just has size rarely works out. You can't take that risk with a #2 pick, and if you can't dominate in college at 7'3" then you aren't going to be a stud in the NBA. Maybe the big guy eventually proves me wrong. Coming off the bench or not, Tyreke was a commodity. When you are building a team you take commodities not huge gambles with a top 3 pick.
I disagree. Tyreke would be less of a commodity and more of a novelty with the Grizzlies.
How so? If his presence here allows you to trade him for something you need, or to for that matter makes Mayo a legit option to trade because you can get something of true value for him then it's not a wasted pick. And no I'm not advocating trading Mayo. Still, I would take the opinion that they did indeed draft a novelty as it stands now. I guess time will tell.
(10-31-2009 09:32 AM)jtgavigan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 08:48 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]One game doesn't make a season.
No, but Marc Gasol has looked like a legit NBA center and we saw last night why Z-Bo was brought in here. I still think Evans would have been great to bring in, because he would give us someone who goes to the goal. Conley doesn't get in the paint enough. Evans would have been great for Mayo and Gay (not to mention the bigs) by getting in the paint and creating havoc. For those that don't think Evans would have been good for us, imagine if we had a guy at the 1 whose one mission on the court is get to the rim.
I don't think we will be able to measure Thabeet until a few years from now as he is a project. I would not have drafted him #2, but understand why they did. If they see a huge upside and rebounding/shot blocking presence, I can see that he MIGHT have that. I just have personally never been a Thabeet fan as he isn't tough enough.
I tell you what I loved is that the Raptors coach said after the game is that "we just couldn't handle their size" - when is the last time we had legit bigs that people just couldn't handle? Never. I loved seeing the chemistry and passing between Z-Bo and Gasol last night (especially high-low). Z-Bo wasn't a black hole, I just hope he keeps that up, because the dude can play. I also think Iverson would jump start the offense. I am becoming less of a fan of Conley by the day.
Evans natural position in the NBA is SG, not PG. He wouldn't replace Conley. Besides, the PG spot traditionally operates out at the wings not in the lane. They don't run the dribble-drive.
But I love the Grizzlies frontcourt. Z-Bo, Gasol, Gay, Carroll and (when he returns) Arthur. That will be a handful for any team we play.
(10-31-2009 02:30 AM)tigers311 Wrote: [ -> ]no i actually hate both of those guys, so we can agree on something. i am not only a tiger fan, but a big grizz fan, and yes we do need defense, but with the #2 pick shouldnt that player be playin immediately on a sub .500 team? demarre carroll is the answer on defense and we drafted him at #27. i would have taken evans, he is a huge uprgrade over conley, right?
ha ha, sorry bout that not sure how that happened
Good...that means that you are not a complete tool. I didn't think you were but I was just fishing for that. Anyways, I agree with your thought process here but I still think our biggest need was defense. That's just what I think. As for Conley, absolutely...yes. Conley has a lot of basketball knowledge but is not a pure talent.
As for Tyreke being a commodity- Based upon what Greg said in the previous post, Tyreke would be playing SG for the Grizzlies. I don't know but I hear we have a pretty good SG that we have a lot of stock in right now, as a result Tyreke wouldn't develop in his crucial rookie season and have a breakout year because he is splitting time with the other guy.
Let's say he would be a PG (which I would have thought we would draft him as). We learned from years past that the PG that we have put just about 110% of our stock in does not do well when splitting time (can anyone say Kyle Lowry?), as a result neither would do well. In essence Tyreke would be a dynamic player with a big name for the Memphis crowd to come see, but he would be frustrated all year. Basically we did the same thing in getting AI, except we let him know from the get go that we don't NEED him. As for Tyreke he would just get frustrated and wouldn't get the chance to bloom.
(10-31-2009 10:59 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 09:32 AM)jtgavigan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2009 08:48 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: [ -> ]One game doesn't make a season.
No, but Marc Gasol has looked like a legit NBA center and we saw last night why Z-Bo was brought in here. I still think Evans would have been great to bring in, because he would give us someone who goes to the goal. Conley doesn't get in the paint enough. Evans would have been great for Mayo and Gay (not to mention the bigs) by getting in the paint and creating havoc. For those that don't think Evans would have been good for us, imagine if we had a guy at the 1 whose one mission on the court is get to the rim.
I don't think we will be able to measure Thabeet until a few years from now as he is a project. I would not have drafted him #2, but understand why they did. If they see a huge upside and rebounding/shot blocking presence, I can see that he MIGHT have that. I just have personally never been a Thabeet fan as he isn't tough enough.
I tell you what I loved is that the Raptors coach said after the game is that "we just couldn't handle their size" - when is the last time we had legit bigs that people just couldn't handle? Never. I loved seeing the chemistry and passing between Z-Bo and Gasol last night (especially high-low). Z-Bo wasn't a black hole, I just hope he keeps that up, because the dude can play. I also think Iverson would jump start the offense. I am becoming less of a fan of Conley by the day.
Evans natural position in the NBA is SG, not PG. He wouldn't replace Conley. Besides, the PG spot traditionally operates out at the wings not in the lane. They don't run the dribble-drive.
But I love the Grizzlies frontcourt. Z-Bo, Gasol, Gay, Carroll and (when he returns) Arthur. That will be a handful for any team we play.
Evans won't have to play in a dribble drive offense to get into the lane. I agree that he will probably end up as a SG, but I would have taken a big strong guy like that at PG this year in lieu of Conley. I also think you put Iverson in the lineup with Mayo, Gay, Randolph, and Gasol and it gets exciting really quickly.
I just think we need a guy who can get in the lane at the 1 spot and we need a shot blocker at the 4/5. Thabeet was the gamble on the latter. Iverson was the gamble on the first point. We will see how it works out. Regardless, I am more excited to watch since the last 50 win season. I just wish Don Poier could be back to call it...
they looked good last night. especially at the end of the game, something they really struggled at last year. carroll really impressed me. he will play alot
thebust played well tonight although he fouled out. had 6 rebs in less than 12 mins and 4 blocks
That's at least an 8 point swing right there. That is the difference between us losing by 18 and us losing by 10. I realize a loss is a loss but the fact that we have scored 115 points or more twice this season (didn't we only score that only twice all last season?) and we only lost by 10 to the Nuggets, I feel like we are taking small small small baby steps towards something. At least if we start scoring more then THAT will put people in the seats. I just want to sell tickets and the franchise to do well.
They played GREAT again tonight in Denver but third quarter officiating was atrocious. OJ scored a career high 40 points, mostly by attacking the basket, and only went to the free throw line once. Give me a break. There was once in the 4th that DeMarre Carrol went up for a layup and got smashed and they called traveling...kinda hard to travel when your in the air. But whatever..can't win em all. Denver is a great team and we stuck with em and had a chance to win, despite the refs. Let's win at Sacramento tomorrow and I'll be happy. AI might play tomorrow also, that will give our bench a huge boost.
(11-01-2009 10:51 PM)Jenkz Wrote: [ -> ]They played GREAT again tonight in Denver but third quarter officiating was atrocious. OJ scored a career high 40 points, mostly by attacking the basket, and only went to the free throw line once. Give me a break. There was once in the 4th that DeMarre Carrol went up for a layup and got smashed and they called traveling...kinda hard to travel when your in the air. But whatever..can't win em all. Denver is a great team and we stuck with em and had a chance to win, despite the refs. Let's win at Sacramento tomorrow and I'll be happy. AI might play tomorrow also, that will give our bench a huge boost.
I see many positives from that. Our problem was Carmelo who scored 42.
(11-01-2009 10:46 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: [ -> ]thebust played well tonight although he fouled out. had 6 rebs in less than 12 mins and 4 blocks
He got a few rebounds and blocks, but i still doubt he had 6 and i only counted 3 blocks and one of them should have been a foul. He should have gotten credit for a steal on one play so maybe they counted that as his block. It's still decent backup minutes no matter how you look at it, but i wouldn't say he played well. He fouled out in 12 minutes. He did do what he had to do which was contribute something.
On a side note, the grizz really got the shaft on the calls but that's to be expected when you play the western finals runnerup at home. Oj scored, rudy and randolph did their thing, and gasol looked real good (but got some major bs fouls). Carroll did good guarding several guys like carmelo, kenyon, and nene. His stats weren't that good, but he really hustled out there for the grizz. It was a good effort by the grizz even if they did lose.
Man, I feel bad for Thabeet. Some of you are acting like the guy beat up your grandmother or something. How can you criticize the guy for not playing the other night? I'm sure it wasn't by choice. Looks like he rebounded and blocked very well tonight. That's what he's supposed to do. It's what he was drafted to do.