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I guess with Bunning retiring (retired?) there is a glaring need in the Senate for ex-MLB pitchers. Interesting move if it happens - I do think there is a chance he could win if the Democratic candidate isn't that inspiring. After all, the state has had several Republican governors recently. It's not as liberal as some people might think - I just think they tend to embrace tradition and hometown heroes there more than most. Schilling may not be a Yankee (literally and figuratively) but he is a hero in Beantown.
(09-02-2009 10:29 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/t...00084.html

I guess with Bunning retiring (retired?) there is a glaring need in the Senate for ex-MLB pitchers. Interesting move if it happens - I do think there is a chance he could win if the Democratic candidate isn't that inspiring. After all, the state has had several Republican governors recently. It's not as liberal as some people might think - I just think they tend to embrace tradition and hometown heroes there more than most. Schilling may not be a Yankee (literally and figuratively) but he is a hero in Beantown.

Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
Danny Tarkanian, a one-time UNLV basketball player and son of the Rebels' legendary longtime coach Jerry Tarkanian, has announced he'll run for the U.S. Senate seat occupied by Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Tarkanian launched a Web site with biography information and is soliciting money for the campaign.

"Danny Tarkanian’s political philosophy is based on constitutional conservatism and liberty," his bio says. "He believes in limited government and opposes the government takeover of private sector industries. He believes in a smaller government that – with some occasional help – leaves the average person free to achieve his or her ambitions."

"Tarkanian, who runs a real estate business and a basketball camp, is a two-time electoral loser. He was beaten in a state Senate race and, most recently, in a race for Secretary of State in 2006 to Ross Miller."

I read the other day that the Packers approached EMK about trying out at end. He told them thanks, but he was going into another contact sport.
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.
regarding health care reform, because georgewebb brought it up, isn't one of the rallying cries of those who support reform that average Americans should have the same world-class health-care coverage that their reresentatives in Congress do? So yeah, I guess I'm missing the point...
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

That Senate seat has been held by someone named "Kennedy" since 1953.
And one of the Senate seats in West Virginia has been held by someone named "Byrd" since 1959.
(09-03-2009 09:08 PM)gsloth Wrote: [ -> ]And one of the Senate seats in West Virginia has been held by someone named "Byrd" since 1959.

The "List".... This is amazing.

http://www.senate.gov/senators/Biographi...erving.htm
(09-03-2009 08:57 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

That Senate seat has been held by someone named "Kennedy" since 1953.
Think about that: Massachusetts has been ruled by Kennedys (1953-2009) nearly as long as it was ruled by Georges (1714 to 1776, or 1714 to 1783, depending on whether you say British ruled ended with the Declaration of Independence or the Treaty of Paris). I would like to say it is an open question as to which family was more vain, absolutist and hostile to liberty; but I'm not sure that it is.
(09-03-2009 07:59 PM)CTRice10 Wrote: [ -> ]regarding health care reform, because georgewebb brought it up, isn't one of the rallying cries of those who support reform that average Americans should have the same world-class health-care coverage that their reresentatives in Congress do? So yeah, I guess I'm missing the point...

I keep hearing protesters ask Members of Congress if they and their families will be covered by the same plan they want to pass for the rest of us. If everybody is to have the same coverage as MCs, that's a rallying cry I, and a lot of other people, haven't heard. If the politicians from Obama on down will publicly annnounce that they will have the same exact coverage, that would quell a lot of the unrest.
BTW, everyone having the same coverage as Congress is not the same as Congress having the same coverage as they propose for everyone else.
(09-03-2009 09:34 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:57 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

That Senate seat has been held by someone named "Kennedy" since 1953.
Think about that: Massachusetts has been ruled by Kennedys (1953-2009) nearly as long as it was ruled by Georges (1714 to 1776, or 1714 to 1783, depending on whether you say British ruled ended with the Declaration of Independence or the Treaty of Paris). I would like to say it is an open question as to which family was more vain, absolutist and hostile to liberty; but I'm not sure that it is.

maybe I missed part of an American government class in high school (my polisci classes at Rice have tended to be internationally-focused), but I was under the impression that if you were gonna call someone the "ruler" of state, you would refer to the Governor (or, maybe, in a state like Texas with a weak executive, the Lieutenant Governor). To my knowledge, then, a lot people have "ruled" Massechusetts since 1953 (including, off the top of my head, Mitt Romney). Now, Massechusetts has, as was alluded to in a previous post, been represented by one or more Kennedy's during that entire span - but "rule" would seem to be a less-than-apt word to utilize here...

and to OO, the general things I've been hearing is that one of the merits of the public option is that it mirrors what Congressman, federal employees, veterans, and seniors on medicare currently have. Maybe we're getting our news from different places, but I've seen townhall footage of people asking Senators and Reps why average citizens shouldn't be allowed to have the same healthcare options as Congresspeople, and why our elected Representatives are going out of their way to protect a private insurance system that they don't actually utilize (i.e. "if it's so great, why aren't you on it?!").
That being said, your "BTW" statement did a good job of clarifying what I was confused about. Thank you.
(09-04-2009 12:55 AM)CTRice10 Wrote: [ -> ]... I was under the impression that if you were gonna call someone the "ruler" of state, you would refer to the Governor (or, maybe, in a state like Texas with a weak executive, the Lieutenant Governor).
Obviously (or so I thought), the word "rule" regarding the Kennedys was hyperbole -- a deliberate exaggeration used for effect. I figured the hyperbole was blatant enough that it did not need to be explained, but perhaps I should have flagged it just to be sure. Anyway, it is flagged now.

I suppose I could try to claim that the word "rule" is accurate in that the Kennedys really do call the shots in Massachusetts, etc. But that would a post-facto justification, and a lame one at best. Besides, if you can't use classical rhetorical devices for the fun of them here in The Quad, where can you use them?
(09-04-2009 12:55 AM)CTRice10 Wrote: [ -> ]the general things I've been hearing is that one of the merits of the public option is that it mirrors what Congressman, federal employees, veterans, and seniors on medicare currently have. Maybe we're getting our news from different places, but I've seen townhall footage of people asking Senators and Reps why average citizens shouldn't be allowed to have the same healthcare options as Congresspeople, and why our elected Representatives are going out of their way to protect a private insurance system that they don't actually utilize (i.e. "if it's so great, why aren't you on it?!").

I believe you have been at least somewhat misinformed. I find this particularly troubling because, although we disagree on many issues, you seem generally to be intelligent and fairly well-informed, which makes me wonder--if people like you are this badly informed, how many people out there (on both sides of the issue) simply have no clue what's going on?

First, what congresspersons currently have is different from what federal employees currently have, which is different from what veterans currently, which is different from what seniors on medicare currently have. I am personally familiar with three of the four and have a general knowledge of the fourth, and no two are even remotely alike. None of the four is sufficiently like any of the other three that it makes any sense to talk about anything "mirroring" any two of them, much less all four of them.

Second, the public or government option would be a fifth thing, different from any of the other four. I'm guessing it would most resemble the VA system, which operates under the tightest budgetary constraints of the four alternatives and where health care is unquestionably being rationed currently to save costs.

Third, the congressional plan is really a basket of different private insurance plans (21, the last time I checked) from which congresspersons can choose the one that best suits their needs. Because of (a) heavy government regulation, particularly by the states, and (b) our current system of tying health insurance to employment, few if any in the world outside congress have that wide a range of choices. I heard yesterday that in California, because of heavy state regulation, there are only six plans available for employers to choose from statewide; that's admittedly anecdotal, and I don't have time to back it up, but that's about what I would expect intuitively. As an employee, you are further limited to those one or two options that your employer elects to provide. In effect, our representatives have access to a truly competitive private insurance market, to which the rest of us are denied access by state regulations. So stating that they are protecting a private system that they don't themselves use has it exactly backwards; they currently deny us, and are seeking to continue to deny us, access to the truly competitive private system that they DO use, and are offering instead a government-run alternative (that will, in all fairness, get added to the bundle in the congressional plan, but I'd be willing to bet that few if any choose it). If you currently have a choice of two private plans selected from a group of six plans available to your employer, would you rather have a government plan as a different alternative or would you rather have an additional nineteen private plans in a truly competitive market? There are probably varying opinions here, but I'll take competition over government intervention any day.

What we have now might be called a private insurance system (your words) but is definitely not a competitive free market system. It is certainly less of a free market system, with more government intervention, than what France has (and I favor).

The French break health care into three components--primary care, elective care, and catastrophic care--and handle each separately. Catastrophic care is the one area where the government is directly involved; you have a cancer or AIDS and run up some threshold amount of cost, after that you're on the government nickel. This is probably a reasonable role for government since they have the deepest pockets, and being relieved of this exposure gives private insurers some freedom to offer more creative and competitive coverages. In particular, it eliminates a lot of pre-existing condition issues.

Primary care is universal, but there is no government agency like National Health Service. As a generally free-market economist, I can justify universal primary care because of the neighborhood effects. If I can afford health care but you can't, and my kid sits next to your kid in school, are my kid and I both better off if your kid has access to basic checkups and vaccinations? I think so, particularly if it can be handled in the private sector like the French do. What they do is to collect enough through their social security system to fund about $3400 per capita per year, which is turned over to a consortium of insurance companies, in exchange for which the insurance companies provide everybody an access card (I think it's green) to what I'll call the "free" system. It's not really free--there are some fairly heavy co-pays to discourage overuse--and it's not really good--somewhere between the VA and a really bad HMO in US terms--but it is universal. Unlike NHS or Canadacare, which try to be comprehensive but inevitably fail, necessitating quotas and queues (and, yes, some of those effectively become death squads), the French free system is intentionally designed to force quotas and queues in order to hit a cost number.

When you get quotaed out and forced to the queue, that's when elective care comes in. You can wait on your quota. Or you can go to the "pay" side and pay a private doc to do it today. Or you can buy private insurance that covers access to the pay side when you need it; coverage tends to be cheap, primarily because this is a very competitive market and it's basically supplemental coverage. Or your employer can provide private insurance (and the vast majority do, in order to get injured workers back on the job quicker). Or you can pay extra for a Cadillac version of private insurance that doesn't require you to go through the "free" side gatekeeper. I don't think the French have medical savings accounts, but they would work well with this model.

Over 90% of the French have private insurance; they don't want to get stuck in the free system. That's considerably higher than our percentage. And remember, they have universal care, we don't. And their government spends about half as much per capita on health care as ours does. The administrative costs under this system are very low. Because they are a civil law jurisdiction, they simply don't have the same jackpot jury awards and resulting malpractice costs that we do. They are currently experiencing some controversy between those who would like to see the basic coverage expanded to something like NHS or Canadacare and those who want to keep a lid on costs. There is a strong national disdain for "socialized medicine," so the cost controllers will probably win in the end.
(09-04-2009 12:55 AM)CTRice10 Wrote: [ -> ]and to OO, the general things I've been hearing is that one of the merits of the public option is that it mirrors what Congressman, federal employees, veterans, and seniors on medicare currently have. Maybe we're getting our news from different places, but I've seen townhall footage of people asking Senators and Reps why average citizens shouldn't be allowed to have the same healthcare options as Congresspeople, and why our elected Representatives are going out of their way to protect a private insurance system that they don't actually utilize (i.e. "if it's so great, why aren't you on it?!").
That being said, your "BTW" statement did a good job of clarifying what I was confused about. Thank you.

I am guessing that we indeed get our news from different sources, which leads to the question of which group of sources is most accurate (or least slanted or just slanted in a different direction). I get 50% Fox, 30% CNN, 5% ABC, 15% internet and local.

I've seen townhall footage of people asking Senators/Congressmen/other Administation figures if they will subject themselves to the same healthcare system that they are proposing for the nation, which seems like an odd question if the cornerstone of the proposal is to lift all Americans to a Congressional level of care. In truth, you are the first and only person I have heard of who thinks that the proposal is lift all Americans to the same level of care as is enjoyed by the elected representatives. My understanding is that the proposal is to cover the 47 million who can afford it but choose not to buy it, like my son, or who need it but can't afford it. This includes all the illegal aliens in our borders. The proposal is not to bring everyone to the top level of care, but to a minimum level of care. For the aforementioned it would be an improvement, but for a lot of us it would be a reduction in the quality and speed of care. I am currently undergoing tests - I am glad i can get them in a matter of days, instead of months (or never) like happens under some systems set forth as examples of what is trying to be achieved.

There is no tort reform in the plan - the lawyers are a Democratic special interest. My doctor wants to give me a test, but before he can order it, the malpractice insurance company requires that he order another test to see if the one he wants can be safely administered - a test to approve a test. The chances of a complication are less than .01%,, but the complication would require surgery, so the insurance company won't take the chance. So the costs are driven up to protect the insurance company from the lawyers.

It worries me that Obama and Pelosi et al were so insistant that the bill should be passed by August break, but they don't know what's in it. I think the important thing to them is to pass a bill, any bill, regardless of content or consequences. It has become a political necessity to pass something. Make a clear and reasonable presentation of what is happen, explain how it works, define the costs and the sources to cover those, and I will give it my fullest consideration, just as i would if an individual salesman was in my living room presenting an insurance plan. If that guy were to start rushing me and telling me to sign without reading, it must be done NOW, the way the Obama adminstration is, I would show him the door. I get suspicious when someone trys a hard sell combined with an obfuscation of the plan. I smell a rat. So convert me with facts and clear explanations, not insults and lies. Calling me a Nazi or Astroturf does little to make me think they have my best interests at heart.

In the end, I will have to live under this healthcare a much shorter time than you - I am 64. I wonder how happy you will be with it when you are 64.
What I don't understand is why the republicans or some bipartisan group or somebody doesn't drop into the hopper a plan based on the following:

1. Universal coverage based on the French model, which essentially gets the government out of the healthcare business (other than the catastrophic care umbrella, the government is limited to doing what your employer does, deducting money from your paycheck and sending it to an insurance company).
2. Transition rules for medicare and medicaid. My approach would be to fold medicaid into the new system immediately, and to allow medicare recipients a choice: if you're on medicare now, you can keep it; if you are between, say, 50 and 65, you can choose either to go on the new system now and punt medicare, or keep your present coverage until you do go on medicare; if you're younger than 50, you are on the new system. I think those ages would reasonably reflect the costs and benefits associated with the different approaches, and over time medicare would phase out.
3. Tort reform focused specifically on replacing large monetary punitive damages with a mechanism for getting bad docs off the street (what punitives are supposed to accomplish but don't).
4. Bringing significant pressure to bear on other countries to pick up their fair share of R&D costs, so that drug costs could be lowered here. We probably have to streamline FDA to get anyone else to agree, and there's nothing wrong with that.
5. Increased competition for medical insurance, by removing current regulations that function primarily as barriers to entry.
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

Glad to see you're against hereditary rule, . . . if they're Kennedys, that is. But are you one of those who voted for W, and would vote for Jeb Bush in a heartbeat if he ran? If so, that means you're a hypocrite. Are you one of those who live by rules that sound great but are the first to abandon or ignore them if they don't serve your political prerogative?

Maybe some people don't, but I see a huge difference between the Kennedys being ELECTED by a solid majority of Massachussett's citizens for decades and a line of King Georges and their progency ruling an empire by the divine right of genetic fortune. Taking up arms to fight against the latter is heroic; taking up arms to fight against the former is treason.

Crocodile tears for what you perceive to be the sad demise of the heritage of the Commonwealth of Massachussetts are not warranted . . . unless you want to measure it against the heritage of the Great State of Texas, with a Governor who espouses secession, citizens who gather on the Capitol steps to invoke the name of Sam Houston as a beacon of Texas independence (wasn't that the same Sam Houston who, as Governor of Texas, fought against secession in the 1860s and retired from office so he wouldn't have to swear allegiance to the Confederacy?), and a state school board that wants to remove the teaching of evolution from public schools and give every boy and girl a Bible. I think not!
(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 08:15 AM)WMD Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

Glad to see you're against hereditary rule, . . . if they're Kennedys, that is. But are you one of those who voted for W, and would vote for Jeb Bush in a heartbeat if he ran? If so, that means you're a hypocrite.

Don't worry, most Republicans I know have had it past their ears with the whole Bush family. Let them enjoy their retirement, Jeb included.
(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2009 05:59 PM)georgewebb Wrote: [ -> ][quote='WMD Owl' pid='4585954' dateline='1251983757']
Joseph P. Kennedy II. (Bobby's oldest son) is supposedly VERY interested in it. If he tosses his hat in the ring, its his.
On the individual level, can't blame him: inheriting a sinecure on the public payroll sure beats working for a living. Plus, the Senate will no doubt be exempt from health care reform -- quite a fringe benefit.

But it is a sad state of affairs: it was a mere 230 years ago that Massachusetts was in the forefront among Western civilization in agitating AGAINST hereditary rule and its prerogatives. As Concord's own son described it:
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]But are you one of those who voted for W, and would vote for Jeb Bush in a heartbeat if he ran? If so, that means you're a hypocrite.
You have no basis for any such discourse about me personally, and no reason to insult me, even if you couch it as a conditional insult.

(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Are you one of those who live by rules that sound great but are the first to abandon or ignore them if they don't serve your political prerogative?
Wow. For Pete's sake, calm down! What's eating you?

(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe some people don't, but I see a huge difference between the Kennedys being ELECTED by a solid majority of Massachussett's citizens for decades and a line of King Georges and their progency ruling an empire by the divine right of genetic fortune.
Gosh, really? I thought they were exactly identical. It never occurred to me that anyone would perceive the slightest difference at all. Gosh golly.

(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Taking up arms to fight against the latter is heroic; taking up arms to fight against the former is treason.
Actually, both were treason, as everyone knew at the time. John Adams knew he would hang for it if he was ever captured. Ben Franklin knew they would all hang, hence his comment: "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we will all hang separately." Jefferson even put it in writing: when the Declaration concludes with "We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor", they meant each of these nouns quite literally. All of which makes it more, not less, heroic.

(09-06-2009 04:09 PM)ColOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Crocodile tears for what you perceive to be the sad demise of the heritage of the Commonwealth of Massachussetts are not warranted . . .
Blah blah blah -- whatever. Again, calm down! What's eating you?
well Kennedy isn't going to run so that leaves a fairly wide-open race.
(09-07-2009 03:23 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]well Kennedy isn't going to run so that leaves a fairly wide-open race.

The old "After a period of deep reflection, I have heard the calls of the people of the Commonwealth and would be honored to serve the people in the United States Senate" speech is being drafted as we speak.

Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley tops a field of potential Democratic candidates for the Senate seat of the late Edward Kennedy as a majority of party voters said they would back Joseph P. Kennedy II, who has declined to make the run, a poll found.

Fifty-nine percent of Massachusetts Democrats surveyed by Boston’s Suffolk University released late yesterday said they would support Joseph Kennedy, a former Massachusetts congressman and nephew of the late senator, if he were in the race.

Kennedy withdrew his name from consideration Sept. 8, saying he wanted to continue his work at Citizens Energy, a nonprofit group he founded to help the needy.

“If Joe Kennedy runs, Joe Kennedy wins,” said David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center, which surveyed 500 Massachusetts voters Sept. 12 through Sept. 15. The poll’s margin of error for its entire sample is plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/200909...czmnvu5dlg
Not really on topic at this point, but there was an interesting contrast piece on Schilling and Clemons in the summer Atlantic:

Pitchers Duel
(09-17-2009 10:55 AM)ausowl Wrote: [ -> ]Not really on topic at this point, but there was an interesting contrast piece on Schilling and Clemons in the summer Atlantic:

Pitchers Duel

The only "Hall" Roger Clemons will be getting into in the next few years will be the "Chow Hall" at a Federal Detention Center when he is doing 18 months for perjury.
(09-04-2009 10:42 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]What I don't understand is why the republicans or some bipartisan group or somebody doesn't drop into the hopper a plan based on the following:

1. Universal coverage based on the French model, which essentially gets the government out of the healthcare business (other than the catastrophic care umbrella, the government is limited to doing what your employer does, deducting money from your paycheck and sending it to an insurance company).
2. Transition rules for medicare and medicaid. My approach would be to fold medicaid into the new system immediately, and to allow medicare recipients a choice: if you're on medicare now, you can keep it; if you are between, say, 50 and 65, you can choose either to go on the new system now and punt medicare, or keep your present coverage until you do go on medicare; if you're younger than 50, you are on the new system. I think those ages would reasonably reflect the costs and benefits associated with the different approaches, and over time medicare would phase out.
3. Tort reform focused specifically on replacing large monetary punitive damages with a mechanism for getting bad docs off the street (what punitives are supposed to accomplish but don't).
4. Bringing significant pressure to bear on other countries to pick up their fair share of R&D costs, so that drug costs could be lowered here. We probably have to streamline FDA to get anyone else to agree, and there's nothing wrong with that.
5. Increased competition for medical insurance, by removing current regulations that function primarily as barriers to entry.

I am going from memory... but IIRC, this is at least ALONG THE LINES of what McCain proposed. (I'm not trying to sell him or the party.... this just sounds an awful lot like something we spoke about)

My paraphrase of the McCain proposal was that he would offer what amounts to a $5,000/year healthplan "voucher" to everyone. Again, IIRC, the vast majority of the money came from existing sources like Medicaid, the VA etc.... Insurance companies would obviously offer competing plans at that pricepoint... with the basic trade-offs being no deductible/copay HMO type plans, or PPO type plans with higher copays or deductibles. Employers would be free to offer and/or people could buy supplimental policies that would expand coverages... OR could apply that $5,000 to a larger plan. Again, IIRC, the $5,000 voucher faded out at higher incomes...

It seems to me that there would be a HUGE pot of money for insurers to fight over for those $5,000 policies... and all the government would have to do is monitor the providers of those policies... as opposed to having to monitor the doctors and all of the paperwork for the "real" claims... they'd only have to manage the complaints... and they could kick an insurance company out of the consortium if they got too many (valid) complaints which would be a HUGE incentive for them to fall in line. They wouldn't just risk losing a few policyholders... but they'd risk losing millions of policy holders.

Fundamentally, what is the difference between the VA and many HMO's?? If the government still oversees the "questions"... then what is the problem?
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