Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
Technically, if anyone leaves, we don't HAVE to replace them.
If kittens die, then they are being exterminated on the Memphis board, big time.
I'll believe it when I see it. Same thing was said last year that FedEx was working behind doors to get them to the Big East.
The only C-USA school that makes sense in the Big East is UCF. Then ECU comes second.
As a Memphis fan...I'll believe it when I see it. It seems like we have the worst luck in America.
Quote:What happens to CUSA if Memphis leaves for greener pastures
Almost everyone in CUSA loses an easy conference win in football.
Memphis has a lot going fot it. The biggest athletic budget in CUSA, great basketball, decent football, the Liberty Bowl, & most importantly, big corporate sponsors. I do think if Memphis is added to the Big East, it will cause a split of the Big East & possibly CUSA in short order.
After reading the first post in that thread, then the subsequent posts...it's hard for me to believe it has created as much hype over there as it has. Seems a little far fetched, the way it is proceeding. On one hand, they are saying an on campus stadium is their "in" but news reports and people close to the Liberty Bowl are talking about renovations and long term lease agreements. It's all very speculative to me, and the absence of absolutely any credible news source is...shall we say...telling. Creating a hype machine on a message board is relatively easy, as we all know. It becomes a beast that grows as it is continuously fed. Some feed it well, with just enough plausible innuendo to make it credible...such as "I've been discussing with a friend very close to the situation who is working on it..." to the complete drama queen that has no business with an internet connection, ie "My step-brother's sister's uncle's cousin works for Fed Ex and they overnighted a package of Corky's Ribs to Providence this weekend, he said...its gotta be a done deal!!!"
That said, it would be worth them going to the Big East just to see TopCoogs reaction. Seriously...I haven't seen him melt down in a looooong time...I'm about due.
swash, I think there are some legs to the rumor, or the Memphis athletic department is trying to sell more season tickets. What better way to get you fanbase excited and but more tickets than to float a Memphis to the Big East rumor.
Would have to replace the Liberty Bowl as well.
I wonder if the Sun Bowl would take CUSA's champion?
IF the rumor is true then really you are looking at not having a split but going 17 in all sports and 9 in football. For the nonfootball members to agree to that it must mean that the football schools would have to pay a large fee in case of a split. So I would see it more of a case of keeping the current situation going.
I really dont think the BE really wants to split and going to more than 9 members right now doesnt make sense because you would need a split and the three additions would have to bring quite a bit of money that right now is not out there.
I think we will find out very soon if this rumor has legs keep an eye on the Liberty Bowl and who they sign for next contract and for how long.
(07-23-2009 04:26 PM)Brick City Pirate Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if the Sun Bowl would take CUSA's champion?
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I thought BE had its fair share of D-1aa football project teams....why would it want another one
(07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
(07-23-2009 06:10 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]I thought BE had its fair share of D-1aa football project teams....why would it want another one
Heh, the ink was dry for Memphis last year. This OCS stuff is nonsense. There is no talk from anyone that matters in Memphis about building an OCS; everyone there according to what I've read is talking about Liberty Bowl renovations. And if Memphis wants the Liberty Bowl to move to the BE with them, then they obviously can't tell the Liberty Bowl folks to screw off on the stadium.
Please stop the killing.
Think about the poor kittens..............
Nothing to see, move along quietly.
(07-23-2009 04:26 PM)Brick City Pirate Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if the Sun Bowl would take CUSA's champion?
Those folks in the Sun Bowl office love who they have, so I doubt it.
(07-23-2009 04:04 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:What happens to CUSA if Memphis leaves for greener pastures
Almost everyone in CUSA loses an easy conference win in football.
Devil's advocate...
Over the past four seasons I believe the Tigers are .500 in football.
It would definitely mean that at least someone else in C-USA could finally win the conference in basketball.
Conference growth in the future will be driven by one thing and one thing only: TV coverage and advertising revenues. The SEC deals with ESPN and CBS mean that every conference in America now is chasing them in the money realm. And no one is even close to the SEC. The ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 10 are all eons behind financially. In fact, the SEC's new deal is greater than what any three of those leagues now make in TV deals combined.
Memphis is not the solution the Big East will seek. It will not do anything for its revenues in any sport except basketball. What you are going to see is a shake-up of the existing conferences with realignments and mergers. I would wager within five years, you won't see Memphis to the Big East, you will instead see a Big East/ACC merger of the top-tier, top-revenue, top-ratings schools to form a superconference to compete with the SEC.
(07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
(07-23-2009 09:57 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]What you are going to see is a shake-up of the existing conferences with realignments and mergers. I would wager within five years... you will instead see a Big East/ACC merger of the top-tier, top-revenue, top-ratings schools to form a super-conference to compete with the SEC.
hmmm... hard for me to picture how that plays out. I don't think
Any member of the ACC wants to be in the same league as USF, Louisville, Cincinnati, West Va., or Pittsburgh. And I don't see any of the current ACC members getting voted "off the island," so to speak, in order to bring in UConn, Syracuse, or Rutgers.
(07-23-2009 03:55 PM)GoTigersGo10 Wrote: [ -> ]As a Memphis fan...I'll believe it when I see it. It seems like we have the worst luck in America.
At least you haven't been left out of a major conference despite fielding highly relevant nationally programs in the not too distant past like we did in 1993 for teams that were better at the time but did not really make a name for themselves in major college sports (Failor, Trek).
Guys, it's truly time to stop with these threads because not only are they killing kittens, they're killing reindeer as well. RIP Blitzen...
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Please stop, before we kill Christmas. The more threads like this, the more that die and eventually I fear Rudolph will fall victim too. Save Christmas.
(07-23-2009 10:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
Did you know those high flying Techies only sold 11,000 tickets to their home game last year against Miss State? The highest profile game evere played in Rusttown could not draw even a half full house of paying customers.
(07-24-2009 08:08 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 10:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
Did you know those high flying Techies only sold 11,000 tickets to their home game last year against Miss State? The highest profile game evere played in Rusttown could not draw even a half full house of paying customers.
That's mighty interesting. This Techhie got me so annoyed last night that I hopped to their board - and what did I see? Critique and criticism of OTHERS' attendance, when debating who they should play ooc. Particularly ironic was the La Tech criticism of Tulane drawing only 16K to Shreveport when they played Miss State there......which I believe was in the September after Katrina hit. And yet Tech sold 11K tickets to Miss State?
(07-24-2009 08:27 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2009 08:08 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 10:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
Did you know those high flying Techies only sold 11,000 tickets to their home game last year against Miss State? The highest profile game evere played in Rusttown could not draw even a half full house of paying customers.
That's mighty interesting. This Techhie got me so annoyed last night that I hopped to their board - and what did I see? Critique and criticism of OTHERS' attendance, when debating who they should play ooc. Particularly ironic was the La Tech criticism of Tulane drawing only 16K to Shreveport when they played Miss State there......which I believe was in the September after Katrina hit. And yet Tech sold 11K tickets to Miss State?
They degrade others yet are no better themselves. I just saw a post on the Sunbelt BB Board where a tecchie was critical of UNT and their "erector set" stadium yet Tech has the mother of all erector sets for their venue. They dug a hole in the ground, filled it in with aluminum sets up to ground level then built an erector set support system on which they added their other shiny seats. Looks good from the air but no better than most high schools when seen from below or ground level.
(07-23-2009 09:57 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]Conference growth in the future will be driven by one thing and one thing only: TV coverage and advertising revenues. The SEC deals with ESPN and CBS mean that every conference in America now is chasing them in the money realm. And no one is even close to the SEC. The ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 10 are all eons behind financially. In fact, the SEC's new deal is greater than what any three of those leagues now make in TV deals combined.
Memphis is not the solution the Big East will seek. It will not do anything for its revenues in any sport except basketball. What you are going to see is a shake-up of the existing conferences with realignments and mergers. I would wager within five years, you won't see Memphis to the Big East, you will instead see a Big East/ACC merger of the top-tier, top-revenue, top-ratings schools to form a superconference to compete with the SEC.
Although I believe there's a less than 1% chance of Memphis winding up in the Big East, I think it's infinitely more likely to happen than what you propose.
(07-24-2009 09:15 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 09:57 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]Conference growth in the future will be driven by one thing and one thing only: TV coverage and advertising revenues. The SEC deals with ESPN and CBS mean that every conference in America now is chasing them in the money realm. And no one is even close to the SEC. The ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 10 are all eons behind financially. In fact, the SEC's new deal is greater than what any three of those leagues now make in TV deals combined.
Memphis is not the solution the Big East will seek. It will not do anything for its revenues in any sport except basketball. What you are going to see is a shake-up of the existing conferences with realignments and mergers. I would wager within five years, you won't see Memphis to the Big East, you will instead see a Big East/ACC merger of the top-tier, top-revenue, top-ratings schools to form a superconference to compete with the SEC.
Although I believe there's a less than 1% chance of Memphis winding up in the Big East, I think it's infinitely more likely to happen than what you propose.
Mathematically speaking, what you just posted makes absolutely no sense. I'm sorry: an infinite amount of no sense.
I think their are some negotiations going on that get Memphis Admins and boosters excited...sure is a lot of consistant smoke coimng out of memphis... maybe the rumors create their own momentum. I believe the higher ups at memphis believe they are getting an invite...sooner or later.
I disagree. Nothing is going on. This is all mental illness.
(07-23-2009 04:04 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:What happens to CUSA if Memphis leaves for greener pastures
Almost everyone in CUSA loses an easy conference win in football.
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Topcoog, Do you think that the money folks at Memphis float this rumor to get the fanbase excited in order to sell more tickets & get more donations?
(07-24-2009 08:27 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ]Particularly ironic was the La Tech criticism of Tulane drawing only 16K to Shreveport when they played Miss State there......which I believe was in the September after Katrina hit.
Yes, that's right. New Orleans cleared out August 29th and the game in Shreveport was played September 17th.
Jealousy is a bad bad thing.
UAB fans are so obsessed with us it makes me quite sick.
I'm not convinced that Memphis is a done deal until there are leaks to ESPN.
(07-24-2009 08:56 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2009 08:27 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2009 08:08 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 10:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
Did you know those high flying Techies only sold 11,000 tickets to their home game last year against Miss State? The highest profile game evere played in Rusttown could not draw even a half full house of paying customers.
That's mighty interesting. This Techhie got me so annoyed last night that I hopped to their board - and what did I see? Critique and criticism of OTHERS' attendance, when debating who they should play ooc. Particularly ironic was the La Tech criticism of Tulane drawing only 16K to Shreveport when they played Miss State there......which I believe was in the September after Katrina hit. And yet Tech sold 11K tickets to Miss State?
They degrade others yet are no better themselves. I just saw a post on the Sunbelt BB Board where a tecchie was critical of UNT and their "erector set" stadium yet Tech has the mother of all erector sets for their venue. They dug a hole in the ground, filled it in with aluminum sets up to ground level then built an erector set support system on which they added their other shiny seats. Looks good from the air but no better than most high schools when seen from below or ground level.
UNT's erector set stadium ? Hmmmmmm. The stadium is being designed by the same firm that designed the new Dallas Cowboy stadium. Will seat over 30,000 expandable to 50,000. It will have 20 luxury boxes going for $100,000 each plus $25,000 donations for five years. Over half have already been sold. We're getting a stadium we will be proud of and I don't beleive "erector set" stadium describes it.
(07-24-2009 08:56 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2009 08:27 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2009 08:08 AM)eager eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 10:14 PM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 06:34 PM)T_Won1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2009 03:37 PM)PGPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Then we slide to the same level as SBC and MAC......
+1
Once again the Louisiana Techhie chirps in to trash C-USA.
Your football team backs into a bowl game, your 2nd in 20 years, and you are a powerhouse....a powerhouse that depends on $5 Mill subsidy, courtesy of the La taxpayers. You have yourselves a good coach - for now. Meanwhile your baseball and basketball teams haven't reached NCAA tourney in 2 decades.
Meanwhile the Techhies paruse these threads hoping someone leaves in the flailing hope that La Tech will be the replacement....that $5 million in taxpayer subsidy goes mighty fast flying to Idaho and Hawaii as La Tech looks at its reality in the face - the sunbelt, if it will have them.
Did you know those high flying Techies only sold 11,000 tickets to their home game last year against Miss State? The highest profile game evere played in Rusttown could not draw even a half full house of paying customers.
That's mighty interesting. This Techhie got me so annoyed last night that I hopped to their board - and what did I see? Critique and criticism of OTHERS' attendance, when debating who they should play ooc. Particularly ironic was the La Tech criticism of Tulane drawing only 16K to Shreveport when they played Miss State there......which I believe was in the September after Katrina hit. And yet Tech sold 11K tickets to Miss State?
They degrade others yet are no better themselves. I just saw a post on the Sunbelt BB Board where a tecchie was critical of UNT and their "erector set" stadium yet Tech has the mother of all erector sets for their venue. They dug a hole in the ground, filled it in with aluminum sets up to ground level then built an erector set support system on which they added their other shiny seats. Looks good from the air but no better than most high schools when seen from below or ground level.
I thought that was UCF
First, I don't begrudge any team that wants to
to a BCS conference. If Memphis gets an invite to the BE
more power to them.
We'll look at our conference at that point and move on. Secondly, I would point out that we are well above the MAC and the SBC in terms of reputation in football (since Memphis is really not our premier football team), although our hoops rep would suffer (assuming of course that the BE gives them an all sports invite). The MAC and SBC do not have any former national champions in football, we do. The MAC and SBC do not have two premier private schools in the country, we do.
MAC also is full of God-less colleges.
Why are you so obsessed with this rumor BrickCity?
(07-24-2009 01:27 PM)EastStang Wrote: [ -> ]If Memphis gets an invite to the BE more power to them... although our hoops rep would suffer (assuming of course that the BE gives them an all sports invite)
C-USA should not and -- I feel certain -- would not allow any member to play football or basketball in another league while maintaining C-USA membership for other sports. You're either all in or all out.
Quote:The MAC and SBC do not have two premier private schools in the country, we do.
Heh.
First of all the criticism was against the MUTS erector set stadium. And hmmm. Funny there were 25k at the Miss State game with less than 3k Mississippi State fans. Go back to NOrtheast. YOu are not a USM fan. And the level that CUSA will drop IS below the Sunbelt if Memphis leaves but only in basketball. It will not kill anybody in football. And UTEP Tulsa and Houston were traditionally strong basketball schools that could get it back if they invested a little more.
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