I'm very serious. Let's throw all our resources at basketball where we do have a history of success and build it into a national championship program.
Gonzaga is preseason ranked #7 in the nation.
From the Gonzaga website:
Due to a budget crisis with the football stadium and football program, Gonzaga officially dropped football following the 1941 season. The stadium was torn down in 1949.
STFU. This year is just ONE YEAR. And we are NOT Gonzaga (yet). If we quit you sure as hell won't see me cheering for UAT or Auburn at their football games.
Who would beat Memphis every year?
If we could get the right staff assembled and directing this team, we'll be fine. I'm looking forward to basketball just like the rest of you, but I'm not at all even considering for a SECOND that UAB should drop football. I know you're upset, but come on... tonight was truly not a game that could be blamed on the coaches very much. You take away half those turnovers, and I bet you UAB wins that game.
That Elliott guy... wow! :eek: He's going to be amazing.
Blazer85 Wrote:If we could get the right staff assembled and directing this team, we'll be fine. I'm looking forward to basketball just like the rest of you, but I'm not at all even considering for a SECOND that UAB should drop football. I know you're upset, but come on... tonight was truly not a game that could be blamed on the coaches very much. You take away half those turnovers, and I bet you UAB wins that game.
That Elliott guy... wow! :eek: He's going to be amazing.
Who exactly is responsible for mentally preparing our players? The coaches. They may not have lost with playcalling, though that is arguable because I could predict 90% of the plays Watson called and the defense still sucked (UCF ran the same play 4 times and still got good yardage) , but you can definitely say that once again the team was not prepared.
That has to be the most retarded thing I have EVER heard. We're 10 years old man!! Cut the program some freakin slack!
UCF was 0-11 last year.... now look where they are. You may say it's because they were on a fresh new coach, but still... Have faith.
Killing the football program would be very detrimental to your basketball program.
For starters...bye bye Conference USA and hello Sun Belt again. CUSA is now a conference consisting of all football members. UAB would be shown the door if football is dropped (much like Tulane will be if they drop football).
Unlike the 80's, I don't see you succeeding even at your current level in the Sun Belt. The 80's was a different era. A team like UAB could consistently win in a so-called lower-level league like the Sun Belt but now is a very different story. There are exceptions to that rule, of course (Gonzaga) but those are few and VERY far between.
Besides...don't drop it until my guys can beat your guys again (if ever).
I don't think the Sun Belt is interested in Basketball only teams. We would probably be in the Atlantic Sun orwhatever that league Birmingham Southern is in.
Times have changed. Gene Bartow saw it coming. If you don't play football at the D1 level you're going to be hurting in hoops unless you are in the Northeast where no one cares about football. Even there you'll notice the non D1 football schools ie Georgetown, Seaton Hall, St Johns programs have fallen on hard times. Look for all those northeastern Catholic universities to eventually be spun off into their own basketball conference along with Marquette and DePaul
efhutton Wrote:I'm very serious. Let's throw all our resources at basketball where we do have a history of success and build it into a national championship program.
Gonzaga is preseason ranked #7 in the nation.
From the Gonzaga website:
Due to a budget crisis with the football stadium and football program, Gonzaga officially dropped football following the 1941 season. The stadium was torn down in 1949.
The title of this thread is not that off.
If UAB doesn't want to COMMIT to a football program, then it should be cut.
All this talk about keeping Watson as AD, HC, and OC because of $$$ don't want to commit to the program. If UAB wants to continue to improve and compete, it will have to take a few calculated risks that involve money.
This program has hit a plateau in terms of performance and fan support. It is time to make some changes.
When E.F. Hutton talks, people listen....Sorry, had to say it.
BTW, EF, you're an idiot for even saying that.
GreenMississippi Wrote:STFU. This year is just ONE YEAR. And we are NOT Gonzaga (yet). If we quit you sure as hell won't see me cheering for UAT or Auburn at their football games.
This is not just one year... Every year has been a dissappoinment under Watson. He has 3 winning seasons in 11 years. We are not playing in the SEC or Big 12, we are in C-USA. We were suppose to contend for the championship, now we need to beat ECU just to stay out of last place in the East.
This staff is awful and you know it. Maybe it wasnt the coaches fault tonight, but if we hadn't lost those other games when the players played well, then this loss would have that detrimental. The season was over before this game began, and that sir... is the coaches fault!
SCConway Wrote:Killing the football program would be very detrimental to your basketball program.
For starters...bye bye Conference USA and hello Sun Belt again. CUSA is now a conference consisting of all football members. UAB would be shown the door if football is dropped (much like Tulane will be if they drop football).
Unlike the 80's, I don't see you succeeding even at your current level in the Sun Belt. The 80's was a different era. A team like UAB could consistently win in a so-called lower-level league like the Sun Belt but now is a very different story. There are exceptions to that rule, of course (Gonzaga) but those are few and VERY far between.
Besides...don't drop it until my guys can beat your guys again (if ever).
Conway, the SunBelt wasn't lower-level in the 80's. Check your history again.
GO CUSA!
I'm not for dropping the football program either.
But there is always the Altantic 10 Conference! :D
Go CUSA!
UAB without football would be fortunate to be in the A-10.
But who knows how that league will look in a few years.
Depending on what happens with the Big East, they could lose some of their best teams.
efhutton Wrote:I'm very serious. Let's throw all our resources at basketball where we do have a history of success and build it into a national championship program.
Gonzaga is preseason ranked #7 in the nation.
From the Gonzaga website:
Due to a budget crisis with the football stadium and football program, Gonzaga officially dropped football following the 1941 season. The stadium was torn down in 1949.
without football we are out of CUSA. without football we dont even get into the sunbelt we would at best get into an asun level conf and that means basketball is trashed as well. yup sounds like getting rid of football is a great idea. i
While I don't often agree with EF, after reading his post prior to last night's game I understand where he is coming from. I, for one, am sick of hearing people say that we just have to be content with the sad state of our program because, "we can't afford to do better". That is a giant load of crap!
I believe that the entire point of the post is that if we are unable, or unwilling to step up in football THEN maybe we should consider whether it is a good investment for the future. I LOVE UAB football and have and will continue to support the program with my butt in a seat and with my checkbook. While I realize that we do not have a massive budget in football, I also believe that our financial straits are not as dire as some here would have us believe. Our share of conference revenues, along with increased paying attendance has increased every year and now we must make the decision to invest in our program. When one starts or expands a business, it is never done with a guarantee of success but with a plan for success. The University has survived the initial investment risk and now it is time to invest in the expansion and success of the 'business" of our football program. UCF has not, in years past, averaged attendance any better than UAB's. Still, the administration there decided to goout and hire an experienced winner as head coach and spent the money needed to make it happen. What has happened has been amazing...they are winning and people are coming to the games.
You don't hire a great head coach or invest in facilities after you are winning. You do all of that in order to win.
Oh, and I do blame the staff for the loss last night. It is their performance throughout the season that has led to the finished product on the field. It is obvious that the team has emotionally and mentally folded and new coaching blood must be considered. For all you who want to wait until the end of the season - that time is now. The new season for us is the recruiting season and we must move quickly to hire a staff that can sell the program and its future to high schoolers! GO BLAZERS!!
I am in agreement that UAB must commit to doing this right.
I don't believe that commitment has ever really been made.
It HAS to be made regardless of who is coach and/or AD, or UAB should just get on with the inevitable and petition for membership in the A-Sun now.
I am not going to comment on coaching situation, however, until the season is over.
Also, does anyone else have the strange feeling they'll beat UTEP? For some reason, I do ...
I'm impressed. Some of you are getting the point.
Spit that koolaid out!
Flying Fetus Wrote:Also, does anyone else have the strange feeling they'll beat UTEP? For some reason, I do ...
I do, but it's the same feeling I had before the USM game. I'm prepared to have that feeling let me down.
That is exactly what the UA trustees are hoping we will do! I say NEVER give up UAB football. We are here to stay!! Fight, fight, fight!!