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No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Think bigger than on the board. The grizz only won, what, 24 games last year? Nobody on that team should be untouchable. They should have looked into trading the pick plus some players to get something GREAT or unloaded on the team. It isn't always about bringing in someone off a draft, why not think big and try and get someone big.

I hope you're right. I'm willing to give him a chance if he's able to finally help us win a lot of games.

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Hate to attack you but the #2 Pick is an All Star and or possible hall of famer or they are labeled a bust no matter how serviceable you are. See Stromile, Shawn Bradley, Darko. THis is a shame! This pick should be like OJ Mayo, Gasol - All Star potential!

Blew it.

Truth is not hate.

(06-25-2009 11:53 PM)68Tiger Wrote: [ -> ]Blew it.

Truth is not hate.

So true. It's not our fault Thabeet sucks

The NBA is where real men play. Thabeet has been playing against boys. Bigger bodies will neutralize him if they don't kill'em.

(06-25-2009 11:53 PM)Jrox Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Hate to attack you but the #2 Pick is an All Star and or possible hall of famer or they are labeled a bust no matter how serviceable you are. See Stromile, Shawn Bradley, Darko. THis is a shame! This pick should be like OJ Mayo, Gasol - All Star potential!

Agree 100%. You swing for the fences at #2. This draft seemed perfect for trading down. The #2 pick is a bargaining chip that should not be squandered.

I keep hearing people talk about filling needs with this draft.

Drafting for team needs = EPIC FAIL!!!

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Just don't like him being selected at 2. He would have been there later. Take Rubio and force Minnesota to deal with us. If the Grizz had at least pretended they were interested in Rubio, they may have gotten a deal for the 5 & 6 picks. The T'wolves wanted Rubio bad. Not only did they get exactly the guy they wanted, they wasted three other first round picks on trade bait. And was DeMarre Carroll really a threat to go before #36? I don't know. Just didn't like the Grizz's picks. Draft isn't just about filling what YOUR roster needs; it's also about taking guys other teams want and making deals.

that is not true. Minnesota would have then taken Curry and Flynn. The Grizz tried to trade anyway possible but no one took the bait. Thabeet will be solid. Honestly there are maybe 2 all stars in this draft, the rest are solid pros or busts and Thabeet will NOT be a bust. We did what we had to do and now we have a 7'3" shot blocker...to go along with a young up-and-coming guard, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay along with other young talents. I agree we should trade Gay and Thabeet for something huge, but that wouldnt be enough anyway. I dont think stripping the team AGAIN is smart. Draft young and evelop them. IMO

(06-26-2009 01:07 AM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]that is not true. Minnesota would have then taken Curry and Flynn. The Grizz tried to trade anyway possible but no one took the bait. Thabeet will be solid. Honestly there are maybe 2 all stars in this draft, the rest are solid pros or busts and Thabeet will NOT be a bust. We did what we had to do and now we have a 7'3" shot blocker...to go along with a young up-and-coming guard, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay along with other young talents. I agree we should trade Gay and Thabeet for something huge, but that wouldnt be enough anyway. I dont think stripping the team AGAIN is smart. Draft young and develop them. IMO

I like the pick because it gives Memphis Grizzlies a shot blocker to funnel the defense for blocks and rebounds. His offense is limited at best right now, but if you get a 10-15 point scorer with 10 rebounds or 2-3 blocks, isn't that what the Grizzlies really need? Shots that are changed as well as blocks will help the Memphis Grizzlies as well. I like the pick considering what was available right now for us to trade. The Grizz also got rid of Darko Milcic for Quenton Richardson. They probably will be some other trades happening in the next couple of days in my opinion.

(06-25-2009 11:53 PM)Jrox Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Hate to attack you but the #2 Pick is an All Star and or possible hall of famer or they are labeled a bust no matter how serviceable you are. See Stromile, Shawn Bradley, Darko. THis is a shame! This pick should be like OJ Mayo, Gasol - All Star potential!

This is exactly why the Grizz should have picked Evans at #2. Not being a homer, but Evans' work ethic and pro body makes him the surest shot at being an All Star. The dude has worked relentlessly preparing for the NBA. He has had a personal trainer since he was like 16. And I am not forgetting about Griffin. When griffin drops that shoulder move against Dwight Howard or Shaq, they aren't going to budge like the Big 12 post guys.

How can you possibly reason that Thabeet will be successful? Look what DeJuan Blair, a college player at the time who went in the 2nd round, did to him...he completely manhandled him and dominate him on the block. No excuses for a #2 overall pick. Just imagine what experienced NBA guys will do to him. When we play the Magic, this will be Howards line: 38 pts. 19 rebs. 6 ast. 3 stl. And Thabeet will have 3 pts. 6 rebs. 2 ast. 5 fouls.

(06-26-2009 02:10 AM)UofMtigers2014 Wrote: [ -> ]How can you possibly reason that Thabeet will be successful? Look what DeJuan Blair, a college player at the time who went in the 2nd round, did to him...he completely manhandled him and dominate him on the block. No excuses for a #2 overall pick. Just imagine what experienced NBA guys will do to him. When we play the Magic, this will be Howards line: 38 pts. 19 rebs. 6 ast. 3 stl. And Thabeet will have 3 pts. 6 rebs. 2 ast. 5 fouls.

And Thabeet will mention something about him being Goliath and Howard being David. Wait a minute...

(06-26-2009 03:11 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 02:10 AM)UofMtigers2014 Wrote: [ -> ]How can you possibly reason that Thabeet will be successful? Look what DeJuan Blair, a college player at the time who went in the 2nd round, did to him...he completely manhandled him and dominate him on the block. No excuses for a #2 overall pick. Just imagine what experienced NBA guys will do to him. When we play the Magic, this will be Howards line: 38 pts. 19 rebs. 6 ast. 3 stl. And Thabeet will have 3 pts. 6 rebs. 2 ast. 5 fouls.

And Thabeet will mention something about him being Goliath and Howard being David. Wait a minute...

In that case give Howard 10 more points and take a few points and rebounds from Thabeet. Oh, and Thabeet will foul out too...haha.

(06-26-2009 12:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:53 PM)68Tiger Wrote: [ -> ]Blew it.

Truth is not hate.

So true. It's not our fault Thabeet sucks

Evans was the only player with All-Star potential at that point, as well as backing up two different positions and giving the Grizz a potential starting PG in 2 years. Thabeet is just a big stiff who needs to gain 50 pounds. Shawn Bradley minus 3 inches.

We'll see I suppose.

And most those who were wrong about Thabeet will not say they were wrong. They will have moved on to their next backseat driving target.

I hope my ambivalent feeling about Thabeet is wrong, and will support him for now..

(06-26-2009 01:01 AM)ImsogladIwenttotheUofM Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Just don't like him being selected at 2. He would have been there later. Take Rubio and force Minnesota to deal with us. If the Grizz had at least pretended they were interested in Rubio, they may have gotten a deal for the 5 & 6 picks. The T'wolves wanted Rubio bad. Not only did they get exactly the guy they wanted, they wasted three other first round picks on trade bait. And was DeMarre Carroll really a threat to go before #36? I don't know. Just didn't like the Grizz's picks. Draft isn't just about filling what YOUR roster needs; it's also about taking guys other teams want and making deals.

Minn GM said they would not trade both the 5 & 6 for anybody. They killed that talk. Everybody that was willing to trade wanted more than the Grizz could give up. Their assests are on the potential of teh youth on the team they have brought in the last couple of years, potential for high picks next year, expiring contracts and $20,000,000 of cap money. If tehy traded away a Conley, Mayo, or Gay they would have to get equal or better value for them and hopefully on top of a pick.

This was a weak draft and one that was full of ???????????? after the #1. I think overall they deserve a "B" but I'm not sure anyone deserved an "A".

Look on the bright side. You could be a Timberwolves fan sitting her trying to figure out what to think of drafting 5 guards with 4 being PG! Or one of the teams that drafted virtually unknown young foreign players that wont see the NBA for 2-4 years if at all.

You have to be careful about taking guys other teams want. You might get stuck with someone you don't want. More and more teams are money concious and more are willing to sit tight or dump rosters every few years. Pro sports has become lessa bout winning than it has about winning enough to keep the fans coing but watching the bottom line.

For the last time, sure Blair had one good game against Thabeet, but when does one game dictate an entire future of a player? The next time Thabeet played Blair (4 games later) Thabeet had 14 points 13 rebounds and 5 blocks, Blair 8 points, 8 rebounds.

Secondly, it was apparent that the Grizz had no leverage at #2. With Rubio falling to #5, he was not trade bait for either OKc or Sac. Minnesota had two picks in a row, so they didn't have to worry, either.

Had Memphis taken Rubio, Okc would have taken Harden or Thabeet, the Sacramento would have taken Evans or Harden/Thabeet, the Minnesota would have taken Flynn and any of the other people--so there was no leverage for anyone.

Too many available PG's in the top 10--Evans, Curry, Rubio, Flynn, and Jennings.

Also, by trading Darko (who only had one year left on his contract, anyway) the Grizz only have one true player over 6'9"--Marc Gasol. If Memphis takes a guard, then Gasol is the ONLY center, Artur is the staring PF (at 6'7") and Hak is the undersized backup at PF. Memphis needed another big, bottom line.

As for the Bradley comparison, that is just off. In college, Bradley only averaged 7.7 rebounds at BYU, Thabeet averaged over 10 in the Big East.

(06-26-2009 01:07 AM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]that is not true. Minnesota would have then taken Curry and Flynn. The Grizz tried to trade anyway possible but no one took the bait. Thabeet will be solid. Honestly there are maybe 2 all stars in this draft, the rest are solid pros or busts and Thabeet will NOT be a bust. We did what we had to do and now we have a 7'3" shot blocker...to go along with a young up-and-coming guard, OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay along with other young talents. I agree we should trade Gay and Thabeet for something huge, but that wouldnt be enough anyway. I dont think stripping the team AGAIN is smart. Draft young and evelop them. IMO

I think the reason Minnesota wouldn't deal was because the Grizz made it clear early on that they didn't want Rubio. Maybe if they had PRETENDED that Rubio was the guy they really wanted, T'wolves would have made the deal. But since Hollins and others with the Grizz showed disinterest in Rubio, the T'wolves knew it was a safe bet to wait, and they got exactly who they wanted. Both of the Grizz 1st round picks were guys that could have been taken lower, IMO. Thabeet is adding defense, but the Grizz need someone to score. That's been their problem. Conley dribbles around for 15 seconds and then finally tries to pass it to someone for a hurried shot; that's if he doesn't dribble off his foot or miss a lay-up. Problem the Grizz have is back-court and offensive production; not front court and defense. Grizz have done pretty well on defense in the games I saw. They never scored. That's the problem. And it really got bad when Hollins decided to put the ball in Conley's hands the majority of the time instead feeding OJ Mayo. I think the situation maybe hopeless as long as Hollins is at the helm.
Oh and how about the great trade the Grizz made last night. I agree that Darko is expendable after getting Thabeet, but moving him for a 9-year vet, Henderson, and some more "Cash Considerations?" How likely is it that Henderson will play next season? They just picked up another guy with an expiring contract to dump.

Personally, I loved our draft. You can ask the same question about rubio that you can about Thabeet. We're not sure how either of these are gonna play out, but the Grizzlies picked up some talent with Carroll and Sam Young. We got a late steal with Young.

(06-26-2009 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 01:01 AM)ImsogladIwenttotheUofM Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Just don't like him being selected at 2. He would have been there later. Take Rubio and force Minnesota to deal with us. If the Grizz had at least pretended they were interested in Rubio, they may have gotten a deal for the 5 & 6 picks. The T'wolves wanted Rubio bad. Not only did they get exactly the guy they wanted, they wasted three other first round picks on trade bait. And was DeMarre Carroll really a threat to go before #36? I don't know. Just didn't like the Grizz's picks. Draft isn't just about filling what YOUR roster needs; it's also about taking guys other teams want and making deals.

Minn GM said they would not trade both the 5 & 6 for anybody. They killed that talk. Everybody that was willing to trade wanted more than the Grizz could give up. Their assests are on the potential of teh youth on the team they have brought in the last couple of years, potential for high picks next year, expiring contracts and $20,000,000 of cap money. If tehy traded away a Conley, Mayo, or Gay they would have to get equal or better value for them and hopefully on top of a pick.

This was a weak draft and one that was full of ???????????? after the #1. I think overall they deserve a "B" but I'm not sure anyone deserved an "A".

Look on the bright side. You could be a Timberwolves fan sitting her trying to figure out what to think of drafting 5 guards with 4 being PG! Or one of the teams that drafted virtually unknown young foreign players that wont see the NBA for 2-4 years if at all.

You have to be careful about taking guys other teams want. You might get stuck with someone you don't want. More and more teams are money concious and more are willing to sit tight or dump rosters every few years. Pro sports has become lessa bout winning than it has about winning enough to keep the fans coing but watching the bottom line.

I would have been fine being stuck with Rubio. At least he would have been exciting to watch. Instead we are stuck with Conley at the point. We needed an infusion of offense. Thabeet is a taller version of D. Arthur. Hope they never get on the court at the same time. Two bigs that can't score. That's some exciting basketball. Guess by going big with all three picks Grizz are going to play "slow ball" that us fans loved that Fratello ran after Hubie Brown.

(06-26-2009 10:06 AM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]For the last time, sure Blair had one good game against Thabeet, but when does one game dictate an entire future of a player? The next time Thabeet played Blair (4 games later) Thabeet had 14 points 13 rebounds and 5 blocks, Blair 8 points, 8 rebounds.

Secondly, it was apparent that the Grizz had no leverage at #2. With Rubio falling to #5, he was not trade bait for either OKc or Sac. Minnesota had two picks in a row, so they didn't have to worry, either.

Had Memphis taken Rubio, Okc would have taken Harden or Thabeet, the Sacramento would have taken Evans or Harden/Thabeet, the Minnesota would have taken Flynn and any of the other people--so there was no leverage for anyone.

Too many available PG's in the top 10--Evans, Curry, Rubio, Flynn, and Jennings.

Also, by trading Darko (who only had one year left on his contract, anyway) the Grizz only have one true player over 6'9"--Marc Gasol. If Memphis takes a guard, then Gasol is the ONLY center, Artur is the staring PF (at 6'7") and Hak is the undersized backup at PF. Memphis needed another big, bottom line.

As for the Bradley comparison, that is just off. In college, Bradley only averaged 7.7 rebounds at BYU, Thabeet averaged over 10 in the Big East.

I think the draft would have gone a lot differently if the Grizz had picked Rubio. But, more importantly, if they had just PRETENDED like they would have taken him in the weeks leading up to the draft. Grizz have been tied to Thabeet for a long time. Everyone knew who the Grizz were going to pick; so no one felt they had to deal. A lot more could have been done BEFORE the draft to make some deals. Instead, Hollins was making it known he wanted no part of Rubio. Just wished they had held their cards closer to their vest, so to speak. That's all. They MAY have gotten more. Maybe not. I don't think getting a bunch of bigs solves the problem in a guard dominant conference.

omg! thabeet got flipped by a guy smaller than him!

we drafted a back up center with the 2nd pick in the draft nuff said

I wanted Evans too if Sac would have given a power forward and the #4 pick. With that being said, I say give him a chance before we judge. First of all he is much better than Bradley and more mobile than Mutombo (close engough spelling) and he did play in the best conference in College Basketball with a very good coach. Most UConn players do well in the Pros. If he can average 10 pts., close to 10 rebs, and 2 to 3 blks. I would call he a success in this weak draft.

(06-26-2009 10:36 AM)maeby Wrote: [ -> ]

omg! thabeet got flipped by a guy smaller than him!

Yeah, and Earl Watson once dunked on Yao. Does that mean that Earl Watson is better?

I think Bomba Fall blocked Derek Rose once, too. Therefore, Rose sucks. Right?

(06-26-2009 10:06 AM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]For the last time, sure Blair had one good game against Thabeet,but when does one game dictate an entire future of a player? The next time Thabeet played Blair (4 games later) Thabeet had 14 points 13 rebounds and 5 blocks, Blair 8 points, 8 rebounds.

Secondly, it was apparent that the Grizz had no leverage at #2. With Rubio falling to #5, he was not trade bait for either OKc or Sac. Minnesota had two picks in a row, so they didn't have to worry, either.

Had Memphis taken Rubio, Okc would have taken Harden or Thabeet, the Sacramento would have taken Evans or Harden/Thabeet, the Minnesota would have taken Flynn and any of the other people--so there was no leverage for anyone.

Too many available PG's in the top 10--Evans, Curry, Rubio, Flynn, and Jennings.

Also, by trading Darko (who only had one year left on his contract, anyway) the Grizz only have one true player over 6'9"--Marc Gasol. If Memphis takes a guard, then Gasol is the ONLY center, Artur is the staring PF (at 6'7") and Hak is the undersized backup at PF. Memphis needed another big, bottom line.

As for the Bradley comparison, that is just off. In college, Bradley only averaged 7.7 rebounds at BYU, Thabeet averaged over 10 in the Big East.

Pitt won both those games. Whatever Thabeet got 2nd time around, his team still lost. Plus, I remember watching the Tigers play UConn and Thabeet @ MSG, and he was a non-factor in that game, he was 2 of 6 from the field, (but he did make his foul shots.) He's only played basketball six years. He may not be able to get up to speed quick enough. You have to be more than just "big" in the NBA. being tall will get you through NCAA hoops, but not in the pros. I don't recall UConn doing too well in the NCAA tourney while Hasheem was there, BTW. Oh, and I don't hate Thabeet. I'm just not in love with the guy. Or like him that much. Wasted pick IMO.

Shawn Bradley v 2.0

(06-26-2009 02:10 AM)UofMtigers2014 Wrote: [ -> ]How can you possibly reason that Thabeet will be successful? Look what DeJuan Blair, a college player at the time who went in the 2nd round, did to him...he completely manhandled him and dominate him on the block. No excuses for a #2 overall pick. Just imagine what experienced NBA guys will do to him. When we play the Magic, this will be Howards line: 38 pts. 19 rebs. 6 ast. 3 stl. And Thabeet will have 3 pts. 6 rebs. 2 ast. 5 fouls.

Why you continue to bring this up is beyong me. IT WAS ONE FREAKING GAME>>>>>>>>>>GET OVER IT.

we traded Darko and Drafted Darko all in one night

(06-26-2009 10:53 AM)Nashville Tiger Wrote: [ -> ]Shawn Bradley v 2.0

Care to at least offer an opinion why? As I wrote above, Bradley played in a weak conference, shot a tad better than 50% from the field, averaged fewer than eight rebounds a game.

Thabeet averaged 10+ rebounds and shot over 60% from the field his last two years, and did it in a much tougher conference.

Bradley still came into the NBA and averaged about 15 points 10 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in his prime years. Heck, in Bradley's first year in the NBA (after a two year break from basketball due to his mormon mission) he averaged 13 points 8 rebounds and 4 blocks.

If Thabeet can do 13, 10, and 4 his rookie year, that will be considered a success.

As for Thabeet being too underweight, a season in Memphis will put some pounds on him. I bet he's never had 'chicken & waffles' or bbq nachos before. As for not taking Rubio, ESPN just said that he was leaning towards staying in Spain at least two more seasons. Maybe it was the interviewer after he was picked that said he'd learn 'how to stay warm' in Minnesota that opened his eyes. Minneapolis is a great city but those winter temps are truly frightening.

See the Grizzlies walking down the street
Fall in line just watching all their feet
They don't know where they wanna go
But they're walking in time

They got Thabeet
They got Thabeet
Yeah
They got Thabeet

See the kids just getting out of school
They can't wait to hang out and be cool
Hang around 'til quarter after twelve
That's when they fall in line

Grizz got Thabeet
They got Thabeet
They got Thabeet
Yeah
Grizz got Thabeet

Go-Go music really makes us dance
At the Pony puts us in a trance
We got dollars just give us a chance
That's when we fall in line

We got Thabeet
We got Thabeet
We got Thabeet
Yeah
We got Thabeet
Everybody get on your feet
We know you can dance with Thabeet
Jumpin' - get down
Round and round and round

(06-26-2009 10:28 AM)ImsogladIwenttotheUofM Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 09:58 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 01:01 AM)ImsogladIwenttotheUofM Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-25-2009 11:48 PM)T1G3R 9UY Wrote: [ -> ]No one on the board would have helped the Grizz more than Thabeet! We will look back at this draft and see that it was very positive for the Grizz and Thabeet will be a solid pro..never an all-star, but a solid DEFENSIVE pro

Just don't like him being selected at 2. He would have been there later. Take Rubio and force Minnesota to deal with us. If the Grizz had at least pretended they were interested in Rubio, they may have gotten a deal for the 5 & 6 picks. The T'wolves wanted Rubio bad. Not only did they get exactly the guy they wanted, they wasted three other first round picks on trade bait. And was DeMarre Carroll really a threat to go before #36? I don't know. Just didn't like the Grizz's picks. Draft isn't just about filling what YOUR roster needs; it's also about taking guys other teams want and making deals.

Minn GM said they would not trade both the 5 & 6 for anybody. They killed that talk. Everybody that was willing to trade wanted more than the Grizz could give up. Their assests are on the potential of teh youth on the team they have brought in the last couple of years, potential for high picks next year, expiring contracts and $20,000,000 of cap money. If tehy traded away a Conley, Mayo, or Gay they would have to get equal or better value for them and hopefully on top of a pick.

This was a weak draft and one that was full of ???????????? after the #1. I think overall they deserve a "B" but I'm not sure anyone deserved an "A".

Look on the bright side. You could be a Timberwolves fan sitting her trying to figure out what to think of drafting 5 guards with 4 being PG! Or one of the teams that drafted virtually unknown young foreign players that wont see the NBA for 2-4 years if at all.

You have to be careful about taking guys other teams want. You might get stuck with someone you don't want. More and more teams are money concious and more are willing to sit tight or dump rosters every few years. Pro sports has become lessa bout winning than it has about winning enough to keep the fans coing but watching the bottom line.

I would have been fine being stuck with Rubio. At least he would have been exciting to watch. Instead we are stuck with Conley at the point. We needed an infusion of offense. Thabeet is a taller version of D. Arthur. Hope they never get on the court at the same time. Two bigs that can't score. That's some exciting basketball. Guess by going big with all three picks Grizz are going to play "slow ball" that us fans loved that Fratello ran after Hubie Brown.

Hollins likes Conley.
Conley made huge progress Hollins took over and built up his confidence. (compare to what some are saying about Kemp and Cal)
Conley is still young as is Mayo, Gasol, and Arthur. Thesea re not teh names that you build a championship around but we are not getting LaBron or Kobe and there were no guaranteed franchise players in this draft.

I think they got better.

Thabeet was a 14 pt 11 reb 4 blk 31 minutes a game guy in a very good league. He is young and he is still growing into the game. He will get stronger and most think his offense will improve because he is a pretty decent athlete. He does have some moves and and he has good feet. Hakeem O he ain't but he has an upside that is worth investing 2-3 years to see where it goes.

Rubio concerned some people as much as Thabeet does. Small frame, not a lot of scoring, very young, can he take the NBA pounding. Both are specialist. Rubio passing and Thabeet reb and blk shots. The Grizz decide they needed Thabeet more than Rubio and for that matter more then Evans.

(06-26-2009 11:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 10:53 AM)Nashville Tiger Wrote: [ -> ]Shawn Bradley v 2.0

Care to at least offer an opinion why? As I wrote above, Bradley played in a weak conference, shot a tad better than 50% from the field, averaged fewer than eight rebounds a game.

Thabeet averaged 10+ rebounds and shot over 60% from the field his last two years, and did it in a much tougher conference.

Bradley still came into the NBA and averaged about 15 points 10 rebounds and 4 blocks a game in his prime years. Heck, in Bradley's first year in the NBA (after a two year break from basketball due to his mormon mission) he averaged 13 points 8 rebounds and 4 blocks.

If Thabeet can do 13, 10, and 4 his rookie year, that will be considered a success.

I keep hearing "you can't coach height". Well, you can't coach slow either. In college, you can get away with a half court game where you slow things up to allow the big men to get down the court. That ain't happening in the NBA. Big and mobile is an asset in the league, being a big stiff doesn't bode well.

I hope I'm wrong, but he looks a whole lot to me like Bradley, Bol, or Muresan.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...zlies.html


Some experts say thabeet was a 4 out of 5 pick. Nice article.

(06-26-2009 12:24 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...zlies.html


Some experts say thabeet was a 4 out of 5 pick. Nice article.

and here

"Analysis: Size, shot-blocking skill, upbeat personality and home continent says this is another Dikembe Mutombo. Needs work offensively, but at least Memphis didn't pick (or trade for) a point guard for the first time in four years. A rare draft-night victory for common sense. -- Dan Wetzel

(06-26-2009 12:27 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:24 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...zlies.html


Some experts say thabeet was a 4 out of 5 pick. Nice article.

and here

"Analysis: Size, shot-blocking skill, upbeat personality and home continent says this is another Dikembe Mutombo. Needs work offensively, but at least Memphis didn't pick (or trade for) a point guard for the first time in four years. A rare draft-night victory for common sense. -- Dan Wetzel

And this from Hoopsreport.com

". Hasheem Thabeet 7’3 Jr. Center UCONN 13.2 PPG, 10.6 RPG, 4.3 BPG, 64 % FG
Changes the game with his size and length. Has unlimited upside and has gotten better every year. Excellent defender with an improving offensive game.

(06-26-2009 12:29 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:27 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:24 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...zlies.html


Some experts say thabeet was a 4 out of 5 pick. Nice article.

and here

"Analysis: Size, shot-blocking skill, upbeat personality and home continent says this is another Dikembe Mutombo. Needs work offensively, but at least Memphis didn't pick (or trade for) a point guard for the first time in four years. A rare draft-night victory for common sense. -- Dan Wetzel

And this from Hoopsreport.com

". Hasheem Thabeet 7’3 Jr. Center UCONN 13.2 PPG, 10.6 RPG, 4.3 BPG, 64 % FG
Changes the game with his size and length. Has unlimited upside and has gotten better every year. Excellent defender with an improving offensive game.

And this from NBADraft.com
Hasheem Thabeet

"Imposing physical specimen who protects the basket."

(06-26-2009 12:30 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:29 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:27 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:24 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...zlies.html


Some experts say thabeet was a 4 out of 5 pick. Nice article.

and here

"Analysis: Size, shot-blocking skill, upbeat personality and home continent says this is another Dikembe Mutombo. Needs work offensively, but at least Memphis didn't pick (or trade for) a point guard for the first time in four years. A rare draft-night victory for common sense. -- Dan Wetzel

And this from Hoopsreport.com

". Hasheem Thabeet 7’3 Jr. Center UCONN 13.2 PPG, 10.6 RPG, 4.3 BPG, 64 % FG
Changes the game with his size and length. Has unlimited upside and has gotten better every year. Excellent defender with an improving offensive game.

And this from NBADraft.com
Hasheem Thabeet

"Imposing physical specimen who protects the basket."

Or this one from SI. RAted a 9 out of 10
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Hasheem Thabeet - Memphis Grizzlies - C
Connecticut - HT: 7'3" WT: 263 - SI GRADE: 9
Once lacking a center, the Grizzlies now have options. Marc Gasol is coming off an encouraging rookie season and Thabeet is a potential impact player on defense and easily the best prospect at the position in the draft. His progression on offense will bear watching.

My fear is Thabeet is another big body with very limited ability ---- not to mention big men today cant stay healthy!!!!!

(06-26-2009 12:42 PM)Memphis_Alum Wrote: [ -> ]My fear is Thabeet is another big body with very limited ability ---- not to mention big men today cant stay healthy!!!!!

See above!

Great draft by the grizz!!! Couldn't be any better!

(06-26-2009 12:42 PM)Memphis_Alum Wrote: [ -> ]My fear is Thabeet is another big body with very limited ability ---- not to mention big men today cant stay healthy!!!!!

I would have rather seen them trade the pick for a lower pick and pick up some next year; or package it for a Stoudamire or go lower.....

I stick to this nothing the Grizz did has created excitement for the team. They need to create that excitement along with building a better team and Thabeet and Carroll arent the players to do that. They could have done a lot with the second pick -- drafting Evans or Curry and then keeping or trading him (i.e. like GS is soon to do)

(06-26-2009 12:47 PM)Memphis_Alum Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-26-2009 12:42 PM)Memphis_Alum Wrote: [ -> ]My fear is Thabeet is another big body with very limited ability ---- not to mention big men today cant stay healthy!!!!!

I would have rather seen them trade the pick for a lower pick and pick up some next year; or package it for a Stoudamire or go lower.....

I stick to this nothing the Grizz did has created excitement for the team. They need to create that excitement along with building a better team and Thabeet and Carroll arent the players to do that. They could have done a lot with the second pick -- drafting Evans or Curry and then keeping or trading him (i.e. like GS is soon to do)

Apparently they wanted to deal but nobody was offering enough to make it happen. If Evans or Curry becomes available now they have picks for next year and some expiring contracts to help out some teams that might have a better shot with Free agent market.

Thabeet may not be exciting but I think he will make a difference. This comes from a guy that tried to sell veryone on Rubio.

The more and more I think about this pick, the worse it sounds. Conley shouldn't start for any team in this league. We have two players. Mayo and Gay. Everyone but Mayo should have been shopped.

This team blows, sucks, slurps, and anything else you want to throw in.