I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Question: Does PETA consider Troy a good place or bad place? After all, goats need lovin' too...
PETA- People Eat Tasty Animals
Strengths- We're pretty strong.
Weaknesses- We're not really weak.
We expect to score a lot of points. Our success this year will depend on whether or not we can keep our opponents from scoring quite as many.
Thanks for the classy non-douche post, TroyFootball05. Sorry for the inevitable douche responses that will come back to you. Apparently some guys think we can be Memphis fans every time the Trojans are mentioned.
All that I will tell you about our football team over the past two years: 6-18. And there are more excuses and 'justifiable reasons' for these 18 losses than the number of yards our pathetic excuse for a defense gave up last year.
Bottom line, if the Blazers cannot reach the six win mark this year (which most likely would require a win over the Trojans), the plug should be pulled on the Callaway/Helton debacle.
(05-28-2009 06:43 PM)FNblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the classy non-douche post, TroyFootball05. Sorry for the inevitable douche responses that will come back to you. Apparently some guys think we can be Memphis fans every time the Trojans are mentioned.
All that I will tell you about our football team over the past two years: 6-18. And there are more excuses and 'justifiable reasons' for these 18 losses than the number of yards our pathetic excuse for a defense gave up last year.
Bottom line, if the Blazers cannot reach the six win mark this year (which most likely would require a win over the Trojans), the plug should be pulled on the Callaway/Helton debacle.
Some of us haven't passed judgment before the fact.
There are plenty of reasons to expect good things this year...especially in Pike County (not that good things ever come out of Pike County).
(05-28-2009 07:32 PM)blazr Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 06:43 PM)FNblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the classy non-douche post, TroyFootball05. Sorry for the inevitable douche responses that will come back to you. Apparently some guys think we can be Memphis fans every time the Trojans are mentioned.
All that I will tell you about our football team over the past two years: 6-18. And there are more excuses and 'justifiable reasons' for these 18 losses than the number of yards our pathetic excuse for a defense gave up last year.
Bottom line, if the Blazers cannot reach the six win mark this year (which most likely would require a win over the Trojans), the plug should be pulled on the Callaway/Helton debacle.
Some of us haven't passed judgment before the fact.
There are plenty of reasons to expect good things this year...especially in Pike County (not that good things ever come out of Pike County).
They have good boiled peanuts there and I have personally brought some out of the county.
I would answer the question with a qualified optimism--UAB should be very good on offense and after the first couple of games, solid on defense. All of this optimism is based on no substantial injuries to starting players as we will be very thin at most positions, particularly on defense.
(05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Troy is a solid team....Troy 40 UAB 20.
(05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Joe Webb 27 troy 7 (nothings changed)
Our defense is the questionable part for UAB; it's capable of huge plays, getting some, giving most.
(05-28-2009 10:27 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Troy is a solid team....Troy 40 UAB 20.
I didn't realize that someone invited Southern Piss into this conversation.
(05-29-2009 06:04 AM)BandGrad Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 10:27 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Troy is a solid team....Troy 40 UAB 20.
I didn't realize that someone invited Southern Piss into this conversation.
they're obsessed with UAB. just ask 'em.
(05-29-2009 07:41 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-29-2009 06:04 AM)BandGrad Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 10:27 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Troy is a solid team....Troy 40 UAB 20.
I didn't realize that someone invited Southern Piss into this conversation.
they're obsessed with UAB. just ask 'em.
Ya know, Memphis fans say they aren't, but we all know the truth...
(05-28-2009 10:27 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2009 02:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I hear and expect you guys will have a much improved team over last years squad. What are some of your strengths and weaknesses, and how do you think the game could play out? If you have any questions about Troy as well, feel free to ask. Thanks guys.
Troy is a solid team....Troy 40 UAB 20.
id guess that uab easily puts up more then 20 against troy...unfortunately, its also possible that we give up more then 40. im trying something new this year: instead of my preseason optimism, im starting as glass half empty and hope i'll be wrong. my early prediction is a loss at troy
TROY: 35
UAB: 21
not a knock on you guys, the Blazers have improved leaps and bounds thanks to some solid recruiting. The thing is, TROY's offense is going to be amazing. there's a reason ESPN ranked us as one of the top 10 non-BCS programs in the country. I think we'll go 11-1, with a loss to Florida.
I hope several of you will make the trip down for the game, it should be a good one. maybe it'll get picked up on tv.
(05-30-2009 10:21 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]TROY: 35
UAB: 17
not a knock on you guys, the Blazers have improved leaps and bounds thanks to some solid recruiting. The thing is, TROY's offense is going to be amazing. there's a reason ESPN ranked us as one of the top 10 non-BCS programs in the country.
I hope several of you will make the trip down for the game, it should be a good one. maybe it'll get picked up on tv.
if our defense isnt better, and your offense only puts up 35, then it isnt amazing...
my favorite part is the "youve improved a lot and are almost at a level where you can compete with us" type comments that we get from many troy fans (not just saying you TDC, but it comes from most troy fans ive talked to). if im not mistaken, im pretty sure that over the past 7 years, uab has beaten troy 3 out of 4 times...
and while i am predicting that to move to 3 out of 5, it doesnt validate such comments
(05-30-2009 10:30 AM)LairDweller Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 10:21 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]TROY: 35
UAB: 17
not a knock on you guys, the Blazers have improved leaps and bounds thanks to some solid recruiting. The thing is, TROY's offense is going to be amazing. there's a reason ESPN ranked us as one of the top 10 non-BCS programs in the country.
I hope several of you will make the trip down for the game, it should be a good one. maybe it'll get picked up on tv.
if our defense isnt better, and your offense only puts up 35, then it isnt amazing...
my favorite part is the "youve improved a lot and are almost at a level where you can compete with us" type comments that we get from many troy fans (not just saying you TDC, but it comes from most troy fans ive talked to). if im not mistaken, im pretty sure that over the past 7 years, uab has beaten troy 3 out of 4 times...
and while i am predicting that to move to 3 out of 5, it doesnt validate such comments
and my favorite part of EVERY uab post concerning this rivalry is, "if im not mistaken, im pretty sure that over the past 7 years, uab has beaten troy 3 out of 4 times..." yes you guys have had some very good games against us, and that is why I didn't predict some massive blowout. I think UAB comes to play no doubt. Still, I predict a double digit win.
Let me address this one other issue. UAB's success against TROY has had little bearing on the success of either program. UAB may hold a winning record against the Trojans, but TROY has seen MUCH more success than UAB. It's the whole Auburn/Alabama argument. Would you rather beat your in-state rival or win your conference and go to a bowl game? If I could choose I'd have both, but out of those two I'll take the latter everytime.
success, on the field, is a product of your level of competition.
if UAB played in SBC, our W/L record would be much better than our W/L record competing in C-USA.
Bring your 'A' game. We'll be more than capable of scoring plenty of points.
If troy can't score 30+ on our 'D', you'll go home with the 'L'.
i dissagree. I think if UAB was still in the Sun Belt they would not improve much. Perhaps an extra win or two courtesy of UNT or WKU, but UAB would not finish in the top three. TROY, FAU, Middle Tennessee, and stAte would all finish ahead of UAB in my opinion.
You'd also lose any benefits you currently have by leaving the perks of C-USA.
I'll point this out. UAB is in C-USA, a conference that receives more money, publicity, television time, bowl bids, and respect than the Sun Belt. Still, TROY is and is perceived to be a better team. If WE moved up to C-USA we would soar past anything UAB could do. With our limited resources we are doing more than the Blazers who benefit from their conference affiliation. Give us what you have and we'd be that much better.
Of course I don't expect you to agree, but that is just what I think.
All I hear is: blah, blah, blah.
This will be settled on the field, again.
We call this board 'BlazerTalk' for a reason.
alright, whatever you say oldblazer79. i don't blame ya, i feel the same way when someone comes on to our board preaching too. i don't think either team has much room to talk, so we'll see ya in T-roy this fall.
Quote:TROY is and is perceived to be a better team.
I would agree with that statement. Gumps, Barners, and Condom U fans perceive that cow tipping is a sport and making love to sheep is acceptable in today's society as well.
Sometimes perception is not reality. Only the delusional ramblings of people looking through only a certain colored pair of glasses.
my glasses are clear ATALLA.
I'm not claiming domination over UAB, we haven't earned that. You guys have had our number for a while now. I AM saying that we are the better program. We have a higher attendance average, we win more ball games, we win our conference every year (over the past 3 seasons), we play in bowl games, we're ranked #31 preseason right now by Phil Steele, and ESPN puts us on atleast once a season. Right now, we are the better football program. I don't see how that is arguable. UAB is a struggling program, I also don't see how that is arguable.
I'm not talking smack right now. I'm speaking purely based on facts.
(05-30-2009 10:54 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]i dissagree. I think if UAB was still in the Sun Belt they would not improve much. Perhaps an extra win or two courtesy of UNT or WKU, but UAB would not finish in the top three. TROY, FAU, Middle Tennessee, and stAte would all finish ahead of UAB in my opinion.
You'd also lose any benefits you currently have by leaving the perks of C-USA.
I'll point this out. UAB is in C-USA, a conference that receives more money, publicity, television time, bowl bids, and respect than the Sun Belt. Still, TROY is and is perceived to be a better team. If WE moved up to C-USA we would soar past anything UAB could do. With our limited resources we are doing more than the Blazers who benefit from their conference affiliation. Give us what you have and we'd be that much better.
Of course I don't expect you to agree, but that is just what I think.
All I'll say is that the last time we played you in football, at Troy, we had as many, if not more, football fans at the game than did you. The last time we played you in Troy in basketball, we had 10 times as many fans at the game as did you.
(05-30-2009 07:41 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 10:54 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]i dissagree. I think if UAB was still in the Sun Belt they would not improve much. Perhaps an extra win or two courtesy of UNT or WKU, but UAB would not finish in the top three. TROY, FAU, Middle Tennessee, and stAte would all finish ahead of UAB in my opinion.
You'd also lose any benefits you currently have by leaving the perks of C-USA.
I'll point this out. UAB is in C-USA, a conference that receives more money, publicity, television time, bowl bids, and respect than the Sun Belt. Still, TROY is and is perceived to be a better team. If WE moved up to C-USA we would soar past anything UAB could do. With our limited resources we are doing more than the Blazers who benefit from their conference affiliation. Give us what you have and we'd be that much better.
Of course I don't expect you to agree, but that is just what I think.
All I'll say is that the last time we played you in football, at Troy, we had as many, if not more, football fans at the game than did you. The last time we played you in Troy in basketball, we had 10 times as many fans at the game as did you.
GN, the basketball comparison is just not fair. Those guys don't even know what a basketball team is really supposed to look like. Of course, the same could be said for Mike Davis.
(05-30-2009 12:41 PM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]my glasses are clear ATALLA.
I'm not claiming domination over UAB, we haven't earned that. You guys have had our number for a while now. I AM saying that we are the better program. We have a higher attendance average, we win more ball games, we win our conference every year (over the past 3 seasons), we play in bowl games, we're ranked #31 preseason right now by Phil Steele, and ESPN puts us on atleast once a season. Right now, we are the better football program. I don't see how that is arguable. UAB is a struggling program, I also don't see how that is arguable.
I'm not talking smack right now. I'm speaking purely based on facts.
U are correct. The way I see it is as follows: two dogs are in a backyard. One is chained up and has a limited area to roam in. The other is not tied up and can go where ever he likes in the yard.
The chain dog is UAB and the free dog is Troy. The name of our chain is Prez Garrison and the BOT.
(05-30-2009 08:49 PM)BlazerRod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 12:41 PM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]my glasses are clear ATALLA.
I'm not claiming domination over UAB, we haven't earned that. You guys have had our number for a while now. I AM saying that we are the better program. We have a higher attendance average, we win more ball games, we win our conference every year (over the past 3 seasons), we play in bowl games, we're ranked #31 preseason right now by Phil Steele, and ESPN puts us on atleast once a season. Right now, we are the better football program. I don't see how that is arguable. UAB is a struggling program, I also don't see how that is arguable.
I'm not talking smack right now. I'm speaking purely based on facts.
U are correct. The way I see it is as follows: two dogs are in a backyard. One is chained up and has a limited area to roam in. The other is not tied up and can go where ever he likes in the yard.
The chain dog is UAB and the free dog is Troy. The name of our chain is Prez Garrison and the BOT.
I won't fully agree with Delta Chi guy, but I do agree with Rod; that Troy's independence is by no means a hindrance. And we are still in the state of Alabama, so its football that moves the needle around here--Troy has made the most of their competitiveness thus far. Outside of the head-to-head series with the Trojans, UAB does have some catching up to do perception-wise.
(05-31-2009 09:59 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 09:51 PM)HellBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]
please if we play in the sunbelt we would have a winning record every year in football and win the league in basketball and probally baseball too go back to the ten people on the SBC board or should I say bored?
UAB would be an average team in the Belt in football and would be a better than most in MBB, though I don't think you would have beaten either of the last two WKU teams and I doubt you noticed but MT and WKU are both playing in CWS regionals right now, MT as a 2 seed and WKU as a 3.
I guess you didn't notice, but we play in a conference with Rice, ECU and USM.
Rice and ECU are hosting first round games.
back to the sbc board for you.
(05-31-2009 10:13 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2009 09:59 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 09:51 PM)HellBlazer Wrote: [ -> ] please if we play in the sunbelt we would have a winning record every year in football and win the league in basketball and probally baseball too go back to the ten people on the SBC board or should I say bored?
UAB would be an average team in the Belt in football and would be a better than most in MBB, though I don't think you would have beaten either of the last two WKU teams and I doubt you noticed but MT and WKU are both playing in CWS regionals right now, MT as a 2 seed and WKU as a 3.
I guess you didn't notice, but we play in a conference with Rice, ECU and USM.
Rice and ECU are hosting first round games.
back to the sbc board for you.
And you barely finished above .500, meanwhile MT has won 44 games thus far. Just because you played in the same conference as some good teams means you'd be able to win the conference? Vandy plays in the SEC that has three host schools and 8 total teams in the tournament and yet we've beaten them 2 out of the 3 times we've played them this year.
Back to your blissful ignorance and overblown sense of importance that comes with C-USA membership.
Middle Tennessee? PLEASE. Go run along and play Jr............. Go play with the Trojans and Hilltoppers.
I think we could've won 40 playing mtsu's schedule, and won the sbc.
Certainly, you're not so naive as to compare the two conferences.
(05-31-2009 10:27 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]Middle Tennessee? PLEASE. Go run along and play Jr............. Go play with the Trojans and Hilltoppers.
We do play with the Trojans and Hilltoppers regularly actually. The same Trojans who are going to beat you in football this year and the same Hilltoppers that would beat you in basketball.
Personally I'd love to have UAB on the football schedule. I love having games that both drivable and winnable.
(05-31-2009 10:31 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]I think we could've won 40 playing mtsu's schedule, and won the sbc.
Yes you could have, if you had MTSU coach and roster which includes an All-American.
(05-31-2009 10:31 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]Certainly, you're not so naive as to compare the two conferences.
No, I don't have to compare the two when I have WarrenNolan.com who has C-USA conference RPI at #5 and the Sun Belt at #7. I'd say that's pretty comparable, but somehow UAB is going to move down just two conferences in RPI and go from being barely better than .500 to winning the conference...
Link
no, we could've won 40 [with mtsu's schedule] using c-usa's #6.
(05-31-2009 10:43 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]no, we could've won 40 [with mtsu's schedule] using c-usa's #6.
Keep dreaming.
Didn't realize our conference RPI was so good did you?
(05-30-2009 11:28 PM)BlazerUnit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 08:49 PM)BlazerRod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 12:41 PM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]my glasses are clear ATALLA.
I'm not claiming domination over UAB, we haven't earned that. You guys have had our number for a while now. I AM saying that we are the better program. We have a higher attendance average, we win more ball games, we win our conference every year (over the past 3 seasons), we play in bowl games, we're ranked #31 preseason right now by Phil Steele, and ESPN puts us on atleast once a season. Right now, we are the better football program. I don't see how that is arguable. UAB is a struggling program, I also don't see how that is arguable.
I'm not talking smack right now. I'm speaking purely based on facts.
U are correct. The way I see it is as follows: two dogs are in a backyard. One is chained up and has a limited area to roam in. The other is not tied up and can go where ever he likes in the yard.
The chain dog is UAB and the free dog is Troy. The name of our chain is Prez Garrison and the BOT.
I won't fully agree with Delta Chi guy, but I do agree with Rod; that Troy's independence is by no means a hindrance. And we are still in the state of Alabama, so its football that moves the needle around here--Troy has made the most of their competitiveness thus far. Outside of the head-to-head series with the Trojans, UAB does have some catching up to do perception-wise.
Ah, perception and World of Warcraft: two things that have no need for reality. Look, my industry has experienced a downturn lately. I have two degrees, including a Master's, from UAB and an advanced certification in my field...yet I'm working on finding a job in the middle of my career. I know someone who works at a steel mill. He has no education, but steady income. Yet, every morning he wakes up in his trailer and heads to a job that's the best he can do. I'll take my long-term earnings potential and possibilities and he can have the relative success he is enjoying right now. I'll let you figure out, in this metaphor, who is UAB and who is Troy, but I'll say I'd hate to wake up every morning to the Sunbelt...and/or Pike County for that matter.
(05-31-2009 10:54 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]
How very wise. That is probably easier than admitting you didn't realize the Sun Belt was a good baseball conference. You really thought you had me, didn't you?
I love that you chose the word naive. Kind of funny when you think about it, when you were the one that didn't realize how good the Belt was as a baseball conference. Naive...classic.
(05-31-2009 10:57 AM)blazr Wrote: [ -> ]I'd hate to wake up every morning to the Sunbelt
I imagine that would be a harsh reality, still losing, in what you consider an inferior conference.
With all due respect to Troy, I simply don't think about them at all when they're next on the schedule. There are other teams that I much more want to beat.
(05-31-2009 10:57 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-31-2009 10:54 AM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]
How very wise. That is probably easier than admitting you didn't realize the Sun Belt was a good baseball conference. You really thought you had me, didn't you?
I love that you chose the word naive. Kind of funny when you think about it, when you were the one that didn't realize how good the Belt was as a baseball conference. Naive...classic.
with all due respect. And remember, I said with
ALL DUE respect,
there is not one team in sbc that could compete [week in and week out] on an even basis
with the top 6 teams in c-usa.
imo, the c-usa #6 would win 40+ games and sbc championship.
your team won the belt
, but
if you're seeking validation for your team/conference, please look elsewhere.
(05-31-2009 10:57 AM)blazr Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 11:28 PM)BlazerUnit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 08:49 PM)BlazerRod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-30-2009 12:41 PM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote: [ -> ]my glasses are clear ATALLA.
I'm not claiming domination over UAB, we haven't earned that. You guys have had our number for a while now. I AM saying that we are the better program. We have a higher attendance average, we win more ball games, we win our conference every year (over the past 3 seasons), we play in bowl games, we're ranked #31 preseason right now by Phil Steele, and ESPN puts us on atleast once a season. Right now, we are the better football program. I don't see how that is arguable. UAB is a struggling program, I also don't see how that is arguable.
I'm not talking smack right now. I'm speaking purely based on facts.
U are correct. The way I see it is as follows: two dogs are in a backyard. One is chained up and has a limited area to roam in. The other is not tied up and can go where ever he likes in the yard.
The chain dog is UAB and the free dog is Troy. The name of our chain is Prez Garrison and the BOT.
I won't fully agree with Delta Chi guy, but I do agree with Rod; that Troy's independence is by no means a hindrance. And we are still in the state of Alabama, so its football that moves the needle around here--Troy has made the most of their competitiveness thus far. Outside of the head-to-head series with the Trojans, UAB does have some catching up to do perception-wise.
Ah, perception and World of Warcraft: two things that have no need for reality. Look, my industry has experienced a downturn lately. I have two degrees, including a Master's, from UAB and an advanced certification in my field...yet I'm working on finding a job in the middle of my career. I know someone who works at a steel mill. He has no education, but steady income. Yet, every morning he wakes up in his trailer and heads to a job that's the best he can do. I'll take my long-term earnings potential and possibilities and he can have the relative success he is enjoying right now. I'll let you figure out, in this metaphor, who is UAB and who is Troy, but I'll say I'd hate to wake up every morning to the Sunbelt...and/or Pike County for that matter.
How long you plan on living off potential and possibilities? The worst thing that happen to UAB Athletics was when Bartow left. The president during that time along with Reynolds afterwards try to deal with the BOT best they could. It has gone downhill since.
I rather know who I am and control my destiny than live from day to day not knowing if I will continue to exist.
(05-31-2009 02:40 PM)oldblazer79 Wrote: [ -> ]with all due respect. And remember, I said with ALL DUE respect,
there is not one team in sbc that could compete [week in and week out] on an even basis
with the top 6 teams in c-usa.
imo, the c-usa #6 would win 40+ games and sbc championship.
your team won the belt , but
if you're seeking validation for your team/conference, please look elsewhere.
Blissful ignorance, the motto of every C-USA fan.
The proof is in the numbers. C-USA RPI #5 Sun Belt RPI #7.
UAB would not win the Sun Belt in football, baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, volleyball, track and field....I could go on if you want.
You're a middle of the road team in a slightly better conference.
Doesn't "middle of the road in a slightly better conference" translate to "top tier in a slightly worse conference"?
Just askin'.