12-20-2008, 09:34 PM
12-20-2008, 09:38 PM
MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
USF scored 1:02 minutes into the game. We weren't even a mediocre 1st quarter team today.
12-20-2008, 09:41 PM
Thank God football is over. Maybe next year we'll be....nah, i can't even say it.
12-20-2008, 09:41 PM
They were just lucky..like every other team this year that has whipped us in the 1st quarter. A play or two here or there and we have a winning record this season.
12-20-2008, 09:43 PM
Tommy has been blown out in 3 of his last 4 bowl games.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
12-20-2008, 09:43 PM
MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:They were just lucky..like every other team this year that has whipped us in the 1st quarter. A play or two here or there and we have a winning record this season.
oh yeah, I forgot that this glorious performance sealed a losing season for the football Tigers....perfect.
12-20-2008, 09:44 PM
Like GA always says, it's our fault. We didn't buy tickets and go to the game. Everyone knows that when more fans show up, Tommy automatically gets smarter.
Just like the Louisville game. Oh wait, bad example.
Just like the Louisville game. Oh wait, bad example.
12-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Original Sabretooth Wrote:Tommy has been blown out in 3 of his last 4 bowl games.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
Didn't Tommy fire last year's DC after the FAU game and hire this year's DC because he was so much better?
12-20-2008, 10:00 PM
No one is suprised by this result. Same ole performance year after year. How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me.
12-20-2008, 10:07 PM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:Tommy has been blown out in 3 of his last 4 bowl games.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
Didn't Tommy fire last year's DC after the FAU game and hire this year's DC because he was so much better?
We just have to be patient and let Walton get HIS guys into his system.
I suppose that means we need to give Tommy 4 more years to get it right. And then, if thats the case, why do we need Tommy in the first place? Just make Tim the head coach?12-20-2008, 10:28 PM
At this point, I'm not sure it would make a difference if we bought out Tommy's contract and hired a local high school coach for a couple of years. It would save money, and he probably wouldn't do any worse.
12-20-2008, 10:35 PM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:At this point, I'm not sure it would make a difference if we bought out Tommy's contract and hired a local high school coach for a couple of years. It would save money, and he probably wouldn't do any worse.
I would love to see us go with either a high caliber-known entity like TT; however, if that is not possible, then make a move for a hungry 250-300k level coach and then mark the left-over "600k" towards annual facility contributions.
12-20-2008, 11:02 PM
Original Sabretooth Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:At this point, I'm not sure it would make a difference if we bought out Tommy's contract and hired a local high school coach for a couple of years. It would save money, and he probably wouldn't do any worse.
I would love to see us go with either a high caliber-known entity like TT; however, if that is not possible, then make a move for a hungry 250-300k level coach and then mark the left-over "600k" towards annual facility contributions.
I wonder how much it would cost to get Kyle Whittingham, Chris Petersen, or Bronco Mendenhall.
12-20-2008, 11:20 PM
I have been pretty quiet here for a while, but coming home from the basketball game got me fired up. The ride home just happened to be at the same time as the post bowl game Tommy West interview and he was really blowing the smoke at us. I think he really thinks most of the fans are just flat out stupid, he went on and on about how it was good to play a Top 20 team to see how far our program had to go to get to the level of BCS teams... WTF, does he think we are freaking retarded or something, we didn't get waxed by even a Top 40 team today. The whole interview just sounded like good ole boy smoke like he was almost satisfied with the performance. Sounds like the guy has just gotten a little to comfortable in his job, maybe someone needs to light a fire under his good ole boy ***.
12-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Wow! It's a force multiplier. They are feeding off themselves. This one needs some explanation - "How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me"
Defend the football program??? jeesh
Defend the football program??? jeesh
12-20-2008, 11:51 PM
where are all those folks who were saying "this game will be good for the program because we're playing a BCS team"?
getting our butts whipped on national TV (by a mediocre BCS team) is NOT good for the program. i sure hope Tommy gets that "foot in the door" in Florida...since that was the main reason he wanted to be in St.Pete.
it's way past time for "put up or shut up."
getting our butts whipped on national TV (by a mediocre BCS team) is NOT good for the program. i sure hope Tommy gets that "foot in the door" in Florida...since that was the main reason he wanted to be in St.Pete.
it's way past time for "put up or shut up."
12-21-2008, 12:45 AM
It was pretty bad, that's for sure. Maybe they are just trying to inflate Helton so he can get another job or something. I honestly don't think there is any real strategy going into games, other than "get the ball to the tall guys". That and "creativity", er, um "trick plays".
12-21-2008, 01:04 AM
MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
I turned on the TV. The first thing I noticed was the Mickey Mouse turf set up for the bowl game. Absolutely inexcusable. You would think for your inaugural bowl game you could do better.
And did I see this? Coach West won the coin toss and deferred to the second half? USF gets a great kick return, a couple of plays, and ......ball game. Great strategy TW. Guess it's time to work on your golf game.
12-21-2008, 01:49 AM
First thing - Walton is a good defensive coordinator and showed it this year. He needs one to two years to get guys with speed and skill in here
Secondly if it weren't for Walton, that sob, we would have fired tommy by the end of this season.
For all you suckers who think tommy has taken us to another level. Look at our schedule ranking the last three or four years. Who couldn't win six games. The reason I want tommy out is because I am tired of seeing a million bucks go out the door.
Lastly I want to make sure everyone attends basketball games no matter how bad it gets. I do not want to see fair weather fans. Cal has taken us so far and he alone deserves our support. Tommy on the other hand well when he takes his hand out of his ....
Secondly if it weren't for Walton, that sob, we would have fired tommy by the end of this season.
For all you suckers who think tommy has taken us to another level. Look at our schedule ranking the last three or four years. Who couldn't win six games. The reason I want tommy out is because I am tired of seeing a million bucks go out the door.
Lastly I want to make sure everyone attends basketball games no matter how bad it gets. I do not want to see fair weather fans. Cal has taken us so far and he alone deserves our support. Tommy on the other hand well when he takes his hand out of his ....
12-21-2008, 01:56 AM
Tiger46 Wrote:Hey man, we lost, we didn't look good...I understand all that and more.MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
I turned on the TV. The first thing I noticed was the Mickey Mouse turf set up for the bowl game. Absolutely inexcusable. You would think for your inaugural bowl game you could do better.
And did I see this? Coach West won the coin toss and deferred to the second half? USF gets a great kick return, a couple of plays, and ......ball game. Great strategy TW. Guess it's time to work on your golf game.
But being critical of deferring the coin toss choice to the 2nd half is being a little over the top in being critical isn't it?
12-21-2008, 01:58 AM
Tiger46 Wrote:MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
I turned on the TV. The first thing I noticed was the Mickey Mouse turf set up for the bowl game. Absolutely inexcusable. You would think for your inaugural bowl game you could do better.
And did I see this? Coach West won the coin toss and deferred to the second half? USF gets a great kick return, a couple of plays, and ......ball game. Great strategy TW. Guess it's time to work on your golf game.
To be fair, deferring kickoffs occur quite often. In actuality that was probably the best coaching decision TW made during the game.
12-21-2008, 07:47 AM
I know he probably has to say this but Bob Rush on the post game sounded like a fool....he kept saying TW is the man to take us to the next level and the coach believes that is what has to happen but it takes time.....its been 8 years and we are awful in an awful league and our last two bowl games support that. He also said not having Brett Russell in the game was a big factor.....Brett doesnt play defense and he went on to say once TW has all the resources things will be better......just like at Clemson right? Sorry but TW's cavalier attitude after the game was alarming and this game was really disappointing seeing as how we had three weeks to prepare and gave up 41 (could have easily been 61) to a team that did not score over 20 in thier last five games.
12-21-2008, 10:45 AM
nutbushtiger Wrote:his good ole boy ***.
These types of code words are being freely used about Coach West.
Is this really necessary?
12-21-2008, 11:00 AM
dan o Wrote:nutbushtiger Wrote:his good ole boy ***.
These types of code words are being freely used about Coach West.
Is this really necessary?
Yes it is, I consider myself and a whole lot of others I know "good ole boys" and Tommy is one as well. But he is sliding by on his good ole boy reputation and "aw shucks" attitude.... its getting old hearing the man talk about his team like there is nothing wrong and he almost seems to be laughing in the fans faces with some of his comments, he is just blowing smoke. He really must think we are all just flat out dumb. I am not the smartest guy on the planet but I think I can tell when someone is condescending, and thats what it seems to me. I hope I am wrong and he gets this crap straightened out, because he ain't going anywhere.
12-21-2008, 11:15 AM
nutbushtiger Wrote:dan o Wrote:nutbushtiger Wrote:his good ole boy ***.
These types of code words are being freely used about Coach West.
Is this really necessary?
Yes it is, I consider myself and a whole lot of others I know "good ole boys" and Tommy is one as well. But he is sliding by on his good ole boy reputation and "aw shucks" attitude.... its getting old hearing the man talk about his team like there is nothing wrong and he almost seems to be laughing in the fans faces with some of his comments, he is just blowing smoke. He really must think we are all just flat out dumb. I am not the smartest guy on the planet but I think I can tell when someone is condescending, and thats what it seems to me. I hope I am wrong and he gets this crap straightened out, because he ain't going anywhere.
Me and all my Tiger fan buddies are "good ole boys" as well.
Guess I just don't understand the premise that he is "sliding by because of that reputation."
Can't see how that, or any other upbringing or personality trait, can serve as a defense for a coach if he is under performing.
12-21-2008, 11:25 AM
ACESFULL Wrote:I know he probably has to say this but Bob Rush on the post game sounded like a fool....he kept saying TW is the man to take us to the next level and the coach believes that is what has to happen but it takes time.....its been 8 years and we are awful in an awful league and our last two bowl games support that. He also said not having Brett Russell in the game was a big factor.....Brett doesnt play defense and he went on to say once TW has all the resources things will be better......just like at Clemson right? Sorry but TW's cavalier attitude after the game was alarming and this game was really disappointing seeing as how we had three weeks to prepare and gave up 41 (could have easily been 61) to a team that did not score over 20 in thier last five games.
Forrest Goodman was just as bad. The team was down by 20 going into the fourth quarter and he was acting as if the team still had a chance to win.
I honestly think Tommy doesn't care any more. When you listen to his post game comments, he shows little or no emotion and only makes up lame excuses. He's made enough money off the Tigers that he'll never have to work after his contract is over. Good thing too, because he'll never be a head coach again.
He's had eight years to get his coaches in place and prepare the team. Many people were bragging that "this was the year
and that we'd win the conference. Instead, the team regressed from 7-6 to 6-7. The brilliant new defensive coordinator that Tommy West brought in gave up 41 points and 496 yards compared to the 44 points and 465 yards in the bowl game last year.
The homers and the happy clappers need to wake up and see the light because the football program is worse now than it's been in years.
12-21-2008, 11:36 AM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
USF scored 1:02 minutes into the game. We weren't even a mediocre 1st quarter team today.
We haven't even been mediocre since 2005. We have been a bad team that was lucky to have enough bad teams on our schedule to limp into the last two bowl games. Before I get blasted, let me say, that yes I'm glad we were bowling but it is pathetic that the only reason we limped into the post season was due to having one of the ten worst D-1 schedules two years in a a row and still had to use a D-1AA game to qualify this year. I also would have appreciate the bowl more if we were a really young team and were really building toward a positive future. Right now, I don't see it that way. Our program went stagnant after the 2006 season and has regressed since, despite playing in two bowl games.
12-21-2008, 11:38 AM
dan o Wrote:nutbushtiger Wrote:dan o Wrote:nutbushtiger Wrote:his good ole boy ***.
These types of code words are being freely used about Coach West.
Is this really necessary?
Yes it is, I consider myself and a whole lot of others I know "good ole boys" and Tommy is one as well. But he is sliding by on his good ole boy reputation and "aw shucks" attitude.... its getting old hearing the man talk about his team like there is nothing wrong and he almost seems to be laughing in the fans faces with some of his comments, he is just blowing smoke. He really must think we are all just flat out dumb. I am not the smartest guy on the planet but I think I can tell when someone is condescending, and thats what it seems to me. I hope I am wrong and he gets this crap straightened out, because he ain't going anywhere.
Me and all my Tiger fan buddies are "good ole boys" as well.
Guess I just don't understand the premise that he is "sliding by because of that reputation."
Can't see how that, or any other upbringing or personality trait, can serve as a defense for a coach if he is under performing.
OK, is this a better way of putting it.......
I think he gets a pass from certain people because of his laid back, non-abrasive approach a majority of the time. He gets a pass cause a lot of people think he is a just a good person, and they are probably right, just not sure he is a great coach.
12-21-2008, 12:06 PM
TigerEdward Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
USF scored 1:02 minutes into the game. We weren't even a mediocre 1st quarter team today.
We haven't even been mediocre since 2005. We have been a bad team that was lucky to have enough bad teams on our schedule to limp into the last two bowl games. Before I get blasted, let me say, that yes I'm glad we were bowling but it is pathetic that the only reason we limped into the post season was due to having one of the ten worst D-1 schedules two years in a a row and still had to use a D-1AA game to qualify this year. I also would have appreciate the bowl more if we were a really young team and were really building toward a positive future. Right now, I don't see it that way. Our program went stagnant after the 2006 season and has regressed since, despite playing in two bowl games.
The sad thing is that in Stobart's day:
1) They only had an 11 game schedule, not a 12 game schedule like today
2) The Division 1-AA game didn't count towards the 6-win minimum to be bowl eligible
3) We weren't in a conference with 6 guaranteed bowl bids
4) There were 19 bowls in 1990, compared to 34 today.
Someone please remind me how much tougher Tommy has it than previous Tiger coaches.
12-21-2008, 12:15 PM
Original Sabretooth Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:Tommy has been blown out in 3 of his last 4 bowl games.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
Didn't Tommy fire last year's DC after the FAU game and hire this year's DC because he was so much better?
We just have to be patient and let Walton get HIS guys into his system.I suppose that means we need to give Tommy 4 more years to get it right. And then, if thats the case, why do we need Tommy in the first place? Just make Tim the head coach?
Not the worst idea.
12-21-2008, 12:22 PM
chunter Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:Tommy has been blown out in 3 of his last 4 bowl games.
We gave up...
568 yards to Bowling Green in a 52-35 loss
502 yards to Akron in a 38-31 win
465 yards to Florida Atlantic in a 44-27 thumping
and 496 yards to a USF team that could have gone for 600+ if they had so chosen.
Tommy West has certainly been consistent on defense when lining up against average football teams.
Didn't Tommy fire last year's DC after the FAU game and hire this year's DC because he was so much better?
We just have to be patient and let Walton get HIS guys into his system.I suppose that means we need to give Tommy 4 more years to get it right. And then, if thats the case, why do we need Tommy in the first place? Just make Tim the head coach?
Not the worst idea.
The last time we hired a first year defensive coordinator to replace a losing head coach it didn't work out very well.
12-21-2008, 12:30 PM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:TigerEdward Wrote:We haven't even been mediocre since 2005. We have been a bad team that was lucky to have enough bad teams on our schedule to limp into the last two bowl games. Before I get blasted, let me say, that yes I'm glad we were bowling but it is pathetic that the only reason we limped into the post season was due to having one of the ten worst D-1 schedules two years in a a row and still had to use a D-1AA game to qualify this year. I also would have appreciate the bowl more if we were a really young team and were really building toward a positive future. Right now, I don't see it that way. Our program went stagnant after the 2006 season and has regressed since, despite playing in two bowl games.
The sad thing is that in Stobart's day:
1) They only had an 11 game schedule, not a 12 game schedule like today
2) The Division 1-AA game didn't count towards the 6-win minimum to be bowl eligible
3) We weren't in a conference with 6 guaranteed bowl bids
4) There were 19 bowls in 1990, compared to 34 today.
Someone please remind me how much tougher Tommy has it than previous Tiger coaches.
Please stop bringing up the facts....it will only anger the happy clappers.
There are some on this board who seem to think that we're still playing in the little 'everybody gets a trophy' league. When there's fifty bowl games and 100 teams get to participate (I guess the requirement will be being able to field a team) just making a bowl will still satisfy some folks.
Just making a bowl is meainingless. We're not one of the best 68 teams in the country....far from it. We would have been 0-8 in the SEC each of the past two seasons. We're far below the worst SEC team but by God we made a bowl.

12-21-2008, 12:34 PM
bluebacker Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:TigerEdward Wrote:We haven't even been mediocre since 2005. We have been a bad team that was lucky to have enough bad teams on our schedule to limp into the last two bowl games. Before I get blasted, let me say, that yes I'm glad we were bowling but it is pathetic that the only reason we limped into the post season was due to having one of the ten worst D-1 schedules two years in a a row and still had to use a D-1AA game to qualify this year. I also would have appreciate the bowl more if we were a really young team and were really building toward a positive future. Right now, I don't see it that way. Our program went stagnant after the 2006 season and has regressed since, despite playing in two bowl games.
The sad thing is that in Stobart's day:
1) They only had an 11 game schedule, not a 12 game schedule like today
2) The Division 1-AA game didn't count towards the 6-win minimum to be bowl eligible
3) We weren't in a conference with 6 guaranteed bowl bids
4) There were 19 bowls in 1990, compared to 34 today.
Someone please remind me how much tougher Tommy has it than previous Tiger coaches.
Please stop bringing up the facts....it will only anger the happy clappers.
There are some on this board who seem to think that we're still playing in the little 'everybody gets a trophy' league. When there's fifty bowl games and 100 teams get to participate (I guess the requirement will be being able to field a team) just making a bowl will still satisfy some folks.
Just making a bowl is meainingless. We're not one of the best 68 teams in the country....far from it. We would have been 0-8 in the SEC each of the past two seasons. We're far below the worst SEC team but by God we made a bowl.![]()
We would have been 0-8 in the BE and probably no better than 7-5 in the SunBelt
12-21-2008, 12:57 PM
oldtiger Wrote:Tiger46 Wrote:Hey man, we lost, we didn't look good...I understand all that and more.MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
I turned on the TV. The first thing I noticed was the Mickey Mouse turf set up for the bowl game. Absolutely inexcusable. You would think for your inaugural bowl game you could do better.
And did I see this? Coach West won the coin toss and deferred to the second half? USF gets a great kick return, a couple of plays, and ......ball game. Great strategy TW. Guess it's time to work on your golf game.
But being critical of deferring the coin toss choice to the 2nd half is being a little over the top in being critical isn't it?
Not when your defense is giving up over 30 points per game.
If you have a great defense, absolutely, kick off and stop them and start out with great field position. If not, then put your offense out there and try to stay on the field as long as you can.
Attack with Attitude. Our defense couldn't stop anyone but Tulane all year.
12-21-2008, 05:17 PM
Tigersmm Wrote:No one is suprised by this result. Same ole performance year after year. How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me.
It wasn't that long ago that we were all making that exact same statement about 2-10 seasons.
I am by no means saying that we are a great program now because we are not. We are however, better off than we were 8 years ago and not to far off from being on the other end of these recent blowout bowls. The difference in mediocre college football team and a really goo college football team really isnt that much. We can't seem to get over that hump however and need to find a way to do so quickly because these 7-6 and 6-7 seasons and "only a few plays away from XX wins" is getting old with a quickness.
12-21-2008, 05:26 PM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:At this point, I'm not sure it would make a difference if we bought out Tommy's contract and hired a local high school coach for a couple of years. It would save money, and he probably wouldn't do any worse.
I would love to see us go with either a high caliber-known entity like TT; however, if that is not possible, then make a move for a hungry 250-300k level coach and then mark the left-over "600k" towards annual facility contributions.
I wonder how much it would cost to get Kyle Whittingham, Chris Petersen, or Bronco Mendenhall.
Maybe if we promise to hire a black coach we can get the BCA to pay for Tommy's buyout. I wouldn't mind going after Charlie Strong or Turner Gill.
12-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Tiger46 Wrote:MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:Glad to see we came out fired up for the bowl game. We are a great 1st quarter team.
I turned on the TV. The first thing I noticed was the Mickey Mouse turf set up for the bowl game. Absolutely inexcusable. You would think for your inaugural bowl game you could do better.
And did I see this? Coach West won the coin toss and deferred to the second half? USF gets a great kick return, a couple of plays, and ......ball game. Great strategy TW. Guess it's time to work on your golf game.
I agree wholeheartedly. I have never understood why a team like Memphis would defer to the second half. This is stupid! It has always been stupid! It was stupid when Memphis did it last year at Central Florida and it was stupid when Memphis did it yesterday. Why would you give a team like South Florida a change to draw "first blood?" Why? I have been asking this question over and over again. South Florida did, after all, draw blood, in just over a minute. We were whipped from the beginning.
Now, before someone responds... I know that this would not have changed the outcome of the game. But, I also know that this decision did not help or improve our changes.
Like most Memphis fans... I think we have a REALLY bad coach who doesn't seem to give a damn.
12-21-2008, 05:57 PM
pkptigers07 Wrote:Tigersmm Wrote:No one is suprised by this result. Same ole performance year after year. How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me.
It wasn't that long ago that we were all making that exact same statement about 2-10 seasons.
I am by no means saying that we are a great program now because we are not. We are however, better off than we were 8 years ago and not to far off from being on the other end of these recent blowout bowls. The difference in mediocre college football team and a really goo college football team really isnt that much. We can't seem to get over that hump however and need to find a way to do so quickly because these 7-6 and 6-7 seasons and "only a few plays away from XX wins" is getting old with a quickness.
The main difference between back then and today is that the schedule is significantly weaker.
The main difference between a mediocre college football team and a really good college football team is coaching.
12-21-2008, 10:43 PM
the other Greg Childers Wrote:You've been waiting all year for this day. You are in your glory, have your fun. After your rant is over, I'll ask once again what you've done to move the program forward.....but have your glory and fun now.pkptigers07 Wrote:Tigersmm Wrote:No one is suprised by this result. Same ole performance year after year. How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me.
It wasn't that long ago that we were all making that exact same statement about 2-10 seasons.
I am by no means saying that we are a great program now because we are not. We are however, better off than we were 8 years ago and not to far off from being on the other end of these recent blowout bowls. The difference in mediocre college football team and a really goo college football team really isnt that much. We can't seem to get over that hump however and need to find a way to do so quickly because these 7-6 and 6-7 seasons and "only a few plays away from XX wins" is getting old with a quickness.
The main difference between back then and today is that the schedule is significantly weaker.
The main difference between a mediocre college football team and a really good college football team is coaching.
We didn't look good yesterday and that's on our head coach. No excuses from me or anyone else that I can see.
12-21-2008, 10:50 PM
oldtiger Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:You've been waiting all year for this day. You are in your glory, have your fun. After your rant is over, I'll ask once again what you've done to move the program forward.....but have your glory and fun now.pkptigers07 Wrote:Tigersmm Wrote:No one is suprised by this result. Same ole performance year after year. How anyone can defend this football program is beyond me.
It wasn't that long ago that we were all making that exact same statement about 2-10 seasons.
I am by no means saying that we are a great program now because we are not. We are however, better off than we were 8 years ago and not to far off from being on the other end of these recent blowout bowls. The difference in mediocre college football team and a really goo college football team really isnt that much. We can't seem to get over that hump however and need to find a way to do so quickly because these 7-6 and 6-7 seasons and "only a few plays away from XX wins" is getting old with a quickness.
The main difference between back then and today is that the schedule is significantly weaker.
The main difference between a mediocre college football team and a really good college football team is coaching.
We didn't look good yesterday and that's on our head coach. No excuses from me or anyone else that I can see.
This isn't about me. It's about the Tiger football team.
The only thing I did was point out a trend before a lot of others did.
12-22-2008, 12:17 AM
It seems like this program follows the same trend every year. Starts off the season bad, then makes a comeback when the schedule gets weak, then gets routed in a bowl game. Cant wait until next year
12-22-2008, 08:16 AM
klg316 Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:Original Sabretooth Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:At this point, I'm not sure it would make a difference if we bought out Tommy's contract and hired a local high school coach for a couple of years. It would save money, and he probably wouldn't do any worse.
I would love to see us go with either a high caliber-known entity like TT; however, if that is not possible, then make a move for a hungry 250-300k level coach and then mark the left-over "600k" towards annual facility contributions.
I wonder how much it would cost to get Kyle Whittingham, Chris Petersen, or Bronco Mendenhall.
Maybe if we promise to hire a black coach we can get the BCA to pay for Tommy's buyout. I wouldn't mind going after Charlie Strong or Turner Gill.
Hit up Jesse jackson and see if he will put his money where his mouth is. I like this idea.