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$60 a day is pretty expensive, but most car rental places won't rent to anyone under 25.

Car sharing. Two words that still sound a little foreign when used together in Texas.

Yet on Tuesday, a Massachusetts firm called Zipcar made its debut in the state with a car-sharing service at Rice University.

The service is similar to a traditional car rental business but is underpinned by a broader mission: to get Americans to change the way they think about owning and driving cars.

"We envision a world where there are more car sharers than car owners," Zipcar spokeswoman Kristina Kennedy said as she stood in front of a sign-up table on the Rice campus.

The service works like this: Rice students pay $35 for a yearlong membership, which allows them to reserve a car at $7 an hour or $60 a day.

At the reserved time, a swipe of a membership card across a sensor on the windshield unlocks the door. Keys are inside. Insurance is paid for, and members can buy gasoline at no cost using a charge card inside the car. But drivers pay a penalty if they return the car with less than a quarter tank.

Formed in Cambridge, Mass., eight years ago, Zipcar has had success with the service in metro areas including Chicago, Washington, Boston and San Francisco.

After dropping its minimum renting age from 21 to 18 last year, Zipcar is moving aggressively to contract with college campuses.

With gasoline prices still well over $3 a gallon, it has been a good time to make the pitch.

Last month, Zipcar signed up 11,000 members, triple what it did the previous July, Kennedy said.

It has 225,000 members in 50 cities in North America and in London, and it operates more than 5,500 cars.


Fuel prices help business
Gasoline prices are driving the business, Kennedy said, and have "really acted as this motivator for people to re-evaluate the cost of owning a car."

There are also environmental benefits. Shared vehicles take other cars off the road, and Zipcar members tend to drive less, Kennedy said.

Eugen Radulescu, director of administrative services at Rice, said he hopes the Zipcar program will encourage some students to leave cars at home, reducing their monthly costs for gasoline, parking and other car-related expenses.

That is why the university is subsidizing a portion of the membership fee, which typically would be $50 a year, he said.

More broadly, he hopes the program will send a signal that "we are extremely mindful of the impact our students' transportation choices have on the environment."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5967946.html
My daughter is in grad school in Boston and has used Zipcar and liked it very much for short errands.
$60 does sound high for a day rental, but the gas is included so that tends to balance it a bit.
Gas and insurance is paid for. That's big. Shoot, a full day of driving could easily eat up the $60 in gas charges alone (and by that, I mean a full day with long distance driving). Are there limits on how far it can be driven? Just curious.
I think it's really intended more for things like grocery trips and things like that, not full day rentals. The sort of thing where people say, I could live without a car, EXCEPT for ______. Zipcar covers the "except for" a heck of a lot cheaper than actually owning, insuring and maintaining a car. They are trying a similar program in Austin. Thing is towns like Austin and Houston have limited situations where people can get by without a car, unlike Boston, DC, or other cities. But sounds ideal for Rice students, especially combined with the light rail line...
$7 an hour is VERY cheap though... $14 for a ride to and from Target and the grocery store. Add to that no payments, no insurance costs, no gas costs, no parking fees, and no parking tickets since it has an assigned spot when you get back to campus and suddenly $7 hour/$60 day (which, of course, you could split with others if you were going somewhere that required a day's rental) is really cheap.

I wish there were a ZipCar/CarShare station in my building or near it. It would enable me to ride my scooter and/or the bus to work more often than I do.


Owl-88 Wrote:
$60 does sound high for a day rental, but the gas is included so that tends to balance it a bit.

gsloth Wrote:
Gas and insurance is paid for. That's big. Shoot, a full day of driving could easily eat up the $60 in gas charges alone (and by that, I mean a full day with long distance driving). Are there limits on how far it can be driven? Just curious.


180 miles per day. I assume that means per 1-8 hour reservation as well (9 or more puts you paying the day rate).

BTW, $60 is not that much for a daily rental in a city on a weekday. I routinely have to pay $55-75 (+ tax and airport fees -- I know there was a bill in the lege regarding tax on carsharing... don't know where it went) when I travel for work.

gsloth Wrote:
Gas and insurance is paid for. That's big.


Just think ... no more "discussions" with the trolls at enterprise about declining their insurance. 04-rock

Sometimes the carsharing fleets include a truck. That can be incredibly useful if you don't already have a truck.

I know people who own one car and use carsharing as the second car.

I know a family of four whose only car is carsharing.

One of my firm's offices has a corporate carsharing membership so that employees who don't commute by car can get access to a car if they have to travel (unexpectedly or not) to a meeting.

WMD Owl Wrote:
Insurance is paid for


All in all, it sounds laike a good program and one I wish had been in place for the first football game of 1963 (that girl never did go out with me again. Long story...)

But I have some question, primarily on the insurance. Does the insurance cover liability, and if so, what are the limits?

Caelligh Wrote:
Sometimes the carsharing fleets include a truck. That can be incredibly useful if you don't already have a truck.

I know people who own one car and use carsharing as the second car.

I know a family of four whose only car is carsharing.

One of my firm's offices has a corporate carsharing membership so that employees who don't commute by car can get access to a car if they have to travel (unexpectedly or not) to a meeting.


I'm not sure what the vehicles available at Rice are/will be, but we heard a rumor about a passenger van being one of them. If that is the case, Rice Crew will definitely be using it from time to time to shuttle people to practice in Clear Lake...

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

WMD Owl Wrote:
Insurance is paid for


All in all, it sounds laike a good program and one I wish had been in place for the first football game of 1963 (that girl never did go out with me again. Long story...)

But I have some question, primarily on the insurance. Does the insurance cover liability, and if so, what are the limits?


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What's the deal with insurance?

Beginning November 1, 2007, for Zipcar members 21 years of age or older, our insurance coverage consists of a combined single limit of $300,000 per accident, meaning that all third party bodily injuries, or property damage costs relating to the accident covered in the aggregate up to $300,000. For drivers under 21, we provide coverage up to state-mandated levels, which vary by the state in which the accident occurs. Zipcars are covered under a vehicle collision policy.

For both third party or vehicle damage claims, the member is responsible for a damage fee of up to $500 to cover repairs if the accident is his or her fault, or if no fault is assigned. Members age 21+ have the option to purchase a damage fee waiver to reduce that amount to $250, or to eliminate it altogether.

Zipcar provides Personal Injury Protection (PIP), or "no-fault" coverage, at statutory limits for our members if they are injured in an accident. Members may also use their own health care coverage in case of injury.

If the total amount of the injuries and/or property damage exceeds our coverage limits, Zipcar members are responsible for this excess and will be contacted by either Zipcar, our insurance provider – Liberty Mutual – or the insurance company representing another driver involved in the accident.

Members engaging in prohibited uses of our Zipcars are not covered. You are not covered as a Zipcar member in any vehicle not supplied by Zipcar. A non-member driving a Zipcar is not covered as well. We will revoke membership if we learn about unauthorized use.

If you have any concerns about the insurance coverage Zipcar provides and whether it works for your personal situation, we encourage you to consult with a licensed agent and put them in touch with us if needed. You can reach us insurance@zipcar.com.

texd Wrote:

OptimisticOwl Wrote:

WMD Owl Wrote:
Insurance is paid for


All in all, it sounds laike a good program and one I wish had been in place for the first football game of 1963 (that girl never did go out with me again. Long story...)

But I have some question, primarily on the insurance. Does the insurance cover liability, and if so, what are the limits?


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What's the deal with insurance?

Beginning November 1, 2007, for Zipcar members 21 years of age or older, our insurance coverage consists of a combined single limit of $300,000 per accident, meaning that all third party bodily injuries, or property damage costs relating to the accident covered in the aggregate up to $300,000. For drivers under 21, we provide coverage up to state-mandated levels, which vary by the state in which the accident occurs. Zipcars are covered under a vehicle collision policy.

For both third party or vehicle damage claims, the member is responsible for a damage fee of up to $500 to cover repairs if the accident is his or her fault, or if no fault is assigned. Members age 21+ have the option to purchase a damage fee waiver to reduce that amount to $250, or to eliminate it altogether.

Zipcar provides Personal Injury Protection (PIP), or "no-fault" coverage, at statutory limits for our members if they are injured in an accident. Members may also use their own health care coverage in case of injury.

If the total amount of the injuries and/or property damage exceeds our coverage limits, Zipcar members are responsible for this excess and will be contacted by either Zipcar, our insurance provider – Liberty Mutual – or the insurance company representing another driver involved in the accident.

Members engaging in prohibited uses of our Zipcars are not covered. You are not covered as a Zipcar member in any vehicle not supplied by Zipcar. A non-member driving a Zipcar is not covered as well. We will revoke membership if we learn about unauthorized use.

If you have any concerns about the insurance coverage Zipcar provides and whether it works for your personal situation, we encourage you to consult with a licensed agent and put them in touch with us if needed. You can reach us insurance@zipcar.com.


Seems like pretty good coverage if you are 21 or over, but if I was a parent of an under-18 student, I would want additional coverage over the state-mandated minimums. But since I am not, my interest in the insurance is at a standstill.

Thanks for the info, Tex

OptimisticOwl Wrote:
Seems like pretty good coverage if you are 21 or over...

Including insurance in the fee means that you're effectively scaling your insurance payment to how much you drive. I like that. Conventional policies may have some sort of limited-use option, but from what I've seen the savings are nowhere close to proportionate.

However, unless I missed something, ZipCar's insurance has no adjustment for good (or bad) drivers. Everybody pays the same rate. That makes it a relatively better deal for drivers with ticket/collision history than for those with clean records.

Ideally insurance should provide incentives for driving safer AND for driving less.

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