08-19-2008, 12:15 PM
08-19-2008, 07:32 PM
I'll do my best . . .
Okay folks, go to that link. And you'll see the only sports that ETSU got points in were . . .
Basketball and baseball? No.
How about that NCAA Women's basketball team and softball, which won 30 games for the first time last season?
No.
Do I even have to tell you what it is?
Yep. Golf and tennis. The women's hoops caption in the picture helped them get that ranking is a lie. They didn't even do one minute of research to find out how they got their points, they just posted "LOOK HOW GREAT WE ARE!"
We were No. 82! Now we're No. 121!
The top program in the country according to this? Stanford.
Did you know Northwestern is the 40th best athletic program in the country? They're better than Miami! And South Carolina! And Connecticut! And Iowa! And Maryland! And Kansas! And Georgia Tech! And N.C. State! And Georgetown! And Memphis (which at 82 at isn't as good as California Poly San Louis Obispo, which is 80th)! And Pitt (which is 85th)!
Interesting they should compare ETSU's ranking with those schools in the Southern, A-Sun, and OVC, too, isn't it?
Also, what is this trash talking coming out of our boy David Mullins' mouth? SO-CALLED MAJOR PROGRAMS?????
Rutgers is a "SO-CALLED" major program?
Colorado State?
Cincinnati?
UAB?
It's refreshing to know Murry Bartow would have jumped to ETSU even if he was still the head coach of the Blazers in 2003, isn't it?
Okay folks, go to that link. And you'll see the only sports that ETSU got points in were . . .
Basketball and baseball? No.
How about that NCAA Women's basketball team and softball, which won 30 games for the first time last season?
No.
Do I even have to tell you what it is?
Yep. Golf and tennis. The women's hoops caption in the picture helped them get that ranking is a lie. They didn't even do one minute of research to find out how they got their points, they just posted "LOOK HOW GREAT WE ARE!"
We were No. 82! Now we're No. 121!
The top program in the country according to this? Stanford.
Did you know Northwestern is the 40th best athletic program in the country? They're better than Miami! And South Carolina! And Connecticut! And Iowa! And Maryland! And Kansas! And Georgia Tech! And N.C. State! And Georgetown! And Memphis (which at 82 at isn't as good as California Poly San Louis Obispo, which is 80th)! And Pitt (which is 85th)!
Interesting they should compare ETSU's ranking with those schools in the Southern, A-Sun, and OVC, too, isn't it?
Also, what is this trash talking coming out of our boy David Mullins' mouth? SO-CALLED MAJOR PROGRAMS?????
Rutgers is a "SO-CALLED" major program?
Colorado State?
Cincinnati?
UAB?
It's refreshing to know Murry Bartow would have jumped to ETSU even if he was still the head coach of the Blazers in 2003, isn't it?
08-19-2008, 08:59 PM
I'm thinking about this some more.
This is actually a bit disturbing on two levels!
First, as discussed in another thread, ETSU COULD have football if they took scholarships away from other programs. Which is going to be an increasingly hard sell within ETSU circles.
Although, what harm would it do? Would the golf and tennis teams have to have Americans on the team and not be totally overrun with players from Europe? Would the baseball team finish in last place again? Would men's soccer have to continue to survive on 3.5 scholarships?
But what this release is not some championing of being No. 121. It is championing the mindset that they have made the right moves inside the athletic dept.
Can you see where a non-athletically minded president would accept this ranking and give David Mullins a contract extension if such a release isn't met with "DON'T GIVE US THIS CRAP!"
The second thing is the fact ETSU has tried to make themselves into a golf and tennis school. It goes along with the mindset of what is important to doctors- i.e. the county club sports.
I don't like it, but as I've said, ETSU hasn't done this very well.
For all the golf team gets, it should contend for National Championships. They haven't since 1996. They finished 23rd last year.
And No. 23, coupled with the modest success of the women's golf and the tennis teams, adds up to No. 121.
Now, Denver is a hockey school. Craig Patrick, the former GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins and Herb Brooks' assistant coach on the 1980 US Olympic team, was the athletic director for years.
After putting all their eggs in that basket, Denver finished No. 47 in the rankings.
Let's look at that again- ETSU puts all its eggs in the golf and tennis basket and goes No. 121.
Denver puts all its eggs in the hockey basket and finishes, in the award ETSU cherishes so much, No. 47.
But, I guess that doesn't matter to ETSU because Denver is not in the Southern Conference.
This is actually a bit disturbing on two levels!
First, as discussed in another thread, ETSU COULD have football if they took scholarships away from other programs. Which is going to be an increasingly hard sell within ETSU circles.
Although, what harm would it do? Would the golf and tennis teams have to have Americans on the team and not be totally overrun with players from Europe? Would the baseball team finish in last place again? Would men's soccer have to continue to survive on 3.5 scholarships?
But what this release is not some championing of being No. 121. It is championing the mindset that they have made the right moves inside the athletic dept.
Can you see where a non-athletically minded president would accept this ranking and give David Mullins a contract extension if such a release isn't met with "DON'T GIVE US THIS CRAP!"
The second thing is the fact ETSU has tried to make themselves into a golf and tennis school. It goes along with the mindset of what is important to doctors- i.e. the county club sports.
I don't like it, but as I've said, ETSU hasn't done this very well.
For all the golf team gets, it should contend for National Championships. They haven't since 1996. They finished 23rd last year.
And No. 23, coupled with the modest success of the women's golf and the tennis teams, adds up to No. 121.
Now, Denver is a hockey school. Craig Patrick, the former GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins and Herb Brooks' assistant coach on the 1980 US Olympic team, was the athletic director for years.
After putting all their eggs in that basket, Denver finished No. 47 in the rankings.
Let's look at that again- ETSU puts all its eggs in the golf and tennis basket and goes No. 121.
Denver puts all its eggs in the hockey basket and finishes, in the award ETSU cherishes so much, No. 47.
But, I guess that doesn't matter to ETSU because Denver is not in the Southern Conference.
08-19-2008, 09:29 PM
Pitt,
Not to correct you again -- even though it has been a tough week for you with the oversight on the soccer attendance for instance -- but the link at etsubucs.com shows the breakdown of the "spring sports" individually. The winter sports total is 25 points for women's basketball and it was carried over from the winter total list.
You can find that under the final winter report. So the administration was not lying by using the women's basketball pic.
Just so you know.
Not to correct you again -- even though it has been a tough week for you with the oversight on the soccer attendance for instance -- but the link at etsubucs.com shows the breakdown of the "spring sports" individually. The winter sports total is 25 points for women's basketball and it was carried over from the winter total list.
You can find that under the final winter report. So the administration was not lying by using the women's basketball pic.
Just so you know.
08-19-2008, 10:11 PM
Oh, boy, I really am a hack because I didn't see the attendance figure on the box score. And I fessed up to it as well.
So you really have the right to be condescending to me! Knife in my heart, owwwwwwwwww!
And yes, now that I see it, women's hoops was not listed among the sports on that chart. So I misread it. Again my bad.
Way to take a small thing and try to make an issue of it to take attention away from the real issue, which is-
WHAT KIND OF AN ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT WOULD ACTUALLY TRY TO PUT UPON THEIR FANS THIS MEANINGLESS AWARD UNLESS IT HAD AN AGENDA THAT THE NON-SPECTATOR SPORTS WERE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SPECTATOR ONES?
So you really have the right to be condescending to me! Knife in my heart, owwwwwwwwww!
And yes, now that I see it, women's hoops was not listed among the sports on that chart. So I misread it. Again my bad.
Way to take a small thing and try to make an issue of it to take attention away from the real issue, which is-
WHAT KIND OF AN ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT WOULD ACTUALLY TRY TO PUT UPON THEIR FANS THIS MEANINGLESS AWARD UNLESS IT HAD AN AGENDA THAT THE NON-SPECTATOR SPORTS WERE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SPECTATOR ONES?
08-20-2008, 10:30 AM
That might have been the funniest thing I've ever read. Pure propaganda. Yep, Stanford has a better athletic program than Ohio State, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Texas. What a damn joke. Stanford is known for three things in sports and three things only, John Elway, 1982 Cal-Stanford, and women's basketball.