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Since there's been talk on here what it will be, here's the early version of it.

Ole Miss is a 10-point favorite for Houston Nutt’s debut as head coach of the Rebels against Memphis. Like I recently mentioned, Texas transfer Jevan Snead looked extremely impressive in the Rebels’ spring game, as did versatile playmaker Dexter McCluster, who is a poor man’s version of UF’s Percy Harvin and/or Mizzou’s Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...ory/732364

Give me the +10. I better get to Vegas now....

Vegas will lose it's *** on this one. To bad you can't bet in Tunica.

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Since there's been talk on here what it will be, here's the early version of it.

Ole Miss is a 10-point favorite for Houston Nutt’s debut as head coach of the Rebels against Memphis. Like I recently mentioned, Texas transfer Jevan Snead looked extremely impressive in the Rebels’ spring game, as did versatile playmaker Dexter McCluster, who is a poor man’s version of UF’s Percy Harvin and/or Mizzou’s Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...ory/732364
Kind of like how Michael Spurlock a few years ago looked like an all world QB? I actually remember a few Ole Miss fans saying he looked better than Eli. Ok whatever, give me the 10 points.

rebeljim Wrote:Since there's been talk on here what it will be, here's the early version of it.

Ole Miss is a 10-point favorite for Houston Nutt’s debut as head coach of the Rebels against Memphis. Like I recently mentioned, Texas transfer Jevan Snead looked extremely impressive in the Rebels’ spring game, as did versatile playmaker Dexter McCluster, who is a poor man’s version of UF’s Percy Harvin and/or Mizzou’s Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...ory/732364

Since this will be one of the very few games the Webels will be favored in this season, I can understand why you jumped on that line so early. Savor it while it lasts but don't get all carried away and bet your grocery money on it.

rebeljim Wrote:Since there's been talk on here what it will be, here's the early version of it.

Ole Miss is a 10-point favorite for Houston Nutt’s debut as head coach of the Rebels against Memphis. Like I recently mentioned, Texas transfer Jevan Snead looked extremely impressive in the Rebels’ spring game, as did versatile playmaker Dexter McCluster, who is a poor man’s version of UF’s Percy Harvin and/or Mizzou’s Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...ory/732364

It's not like Dexter McCluster hasn't been around the past two years. I'm pretty sure none of the Vegas insiders watched our spring game / know anything that happened during it, so they really have no idea what Memphis brings to the table. Arkelon Hall was ranked as the #8 HS QB in the country coming out of his senior year, and Snead was ranked #6 (they graduated in different years though), so it will be interesting to see the two go head to head.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oOSNAawu2PA
Here are the highlights of the Ole Miss Spring game that the article references.
What intrigues me more than the offense in the video are the defensive formations Ole Miss was running.
I think Nutt will run the ball against us more than he will throw it since it's the opener.
Both teams seem to have similar strengths and weaknesses, so I think turnovers will determine the outcome.

10 points seems a little high given the recent history of this series. The last 5 games have been decided by an average of 5.2 points.

Vegas is crap. I hate these predictions. Most of them are biased guesses. I think it will be closer than 10

I think 6 would be more accurate.

The confederates will be national champions (of human relations) and they are the biggest laughingstock of the nation nut they think they are among the elite. typical........ Trent Lott and Co.

Man, I'll take that bet and run.

This game has been way to close for the past 3 or more years. Mississippi is with a new quarterback and the same for Memphis. That's usually not good in game openers.

Plus, Tigers have loaded up lately at several key positions. Receivers look to be not good, but outstanding.

I get the Houston Nutt deal, but I'd take +10 in a heartbeat.

I aint gonna lie... i dont like our chances in this game. i told a buddy of mine i bet they were close to a 10 point fav in our game. look you can say its crazy if you like. i watched our bowl game and there were times we didnt even have a defender in the tv screen for crying out loud.
i hope we win but i think we have some problems that cant be fixed in a single offseason. here is to hoping i am wrong...........

Untill AH proves it on the field, I worry about our success this year. JS for Ole Miss has atleast proven that he can play at this level ( He looked good in his limited action as a true freshman at Texas)..... Let's hope that it translates the Brent Shaeffer way.... BUST. But, I think there is a better chance that he is infact going to be good. At this point I would not be shocked to the Rebels come away with a 10pt victory.

Before I get bashed, I want to make sure that I am clear that I hope for the best. I would like nothing more than for AH to be the real deal and I am eating my words after the Opener. Because If AH is the real deal, We are going to be extremely dangerous on offense. The WR core is as good as it has been since the Bruce, Cody, Copeland core.

How can you say Vegas lines are biased? The only thing they are biased towards is making money. Try harder to camoflauge your ignorance.

basically Vegas is begging the general public to take the 10 points. looks like a sucker bet to me. anytime something looks like a sure bet you can be sure it's not.

What y'all need to do is pool your money together and see if you can make enough money off this game to build an OCS. Seems like Vegas is willing to help y'all out. Go for it!!!

On Campus Bookies Now!!!


I forgot, there are some already.

Draelius Wrote:What y'all need to do is pool your money together and see if you can make enough money off this game to build an OCS. Seems like Vegas is willing to help y'all out. Go for it!!!

All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette.

If I were a betting man and I've been known to be, I'd run as far away from this line as possible. Conventional wisdom says to take Memphis +10 which means Ole Miss wins either by 11 or by a good bit more than that. Vegas gots to get theirs somehow.

RationalRebel Wrote:If I were a betting man and I've been known to be, I'd run as far away from this line as possible. Conventional wisdom says to take Memphis +10 which means Ole Miss wins either by 11 or by a good bit more than that. Vegas gots to get theirs somehow.

they do, in the betting fees. For most betting, the idea is to try to break even on each side, and take the money from the fees. The line changes based on how people are betting, basically trying to keep the line at this middle point.

"All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette."

Ole Miss is one of the founding members of the SEC. To say that we don't deserve the profits from it is just stupid. It's like complaining about a doctor that makes money. He had vision and worked for it. You didn't. Grow up.

UM_REBELS Wrote:"All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette."

Ole Miss is one of the founding members of the SEC. To say that we don't deserve the profits from it is just stupid. It's like complaining about a doctor that makes money. He had vision and worked for it. You didn't. Grow up.

so was Tulane, if I'm not mistaken.

the point is that SEC athleticsis CURRENTLY (a word OM fans have a hard time with) is a HUGE moneymaker. It wasn't like that the last time the Rebels were relevant.

CURRENTLY, OM is an also-ran that is responsible for generating a tiny portion of the welfare check that is handed to it by the SEC every year.

Congrats. I wish we had it. But please don't act like tOM has done anything to 'deserve' it.

Right place. Right time.

if the sec was starting today - would mississippi AND miss state be asked to join? nope. i think its questionable if even either one would be.

tigerjeb Wrote:if the sec was starting today - would mississippi AND miss state be asked to join? nope. i think its questionable if even either one would be.

i don't think it is questionable.

True, Tulane was a founding member, now they're CUSA. Not too smart to leave the SEC.

And as for Ole Miss not keeping up in the SEC, let me ask you this. What did LSU do from 1958 to 2003? Not much. They were middle of the pack. So I guess the SEC should have kicked them out? Brilliant.

Memphis is in CUSA because they didn't fit any conference geographically or financially. You've tried to catch up in the past 8 years or so, but it's pretty late in the game.

memphis is in cusa because we got blackballed by vandy when the sec voted on our membership back in the early 70s. at that time lil' ole memphis had better facilities and a larger athletic budget than ut-knoxville.

"at that time lil' ole memphis had better facilities and a larger athletic budget than ut-knoxville."

I find that very hard to believe. Link it if you can.

cant link it. its in articles from the time that i have back in the tigerjebcave. you'll just have to take my word for it.

UM_REBELS Wrote:+
And as for Ole Miss not keeping up in the SEC, let me ask you this. What did LSU do from 1958 to 2003? Not much. They were middle of the pack. So I guess the SEC should have kicked them out? Brilliant.

A more relevant question might be to ask what LSU has done since the formation of the BCS.

OM and MSU are in the SEC simply because they always have.

Again, congrats. But it is simply because things were different decades ago.

Currently, OM and State bring basically zero to the table. They are universities in small, hard to get to towns with basically zero television market.

McTiger Wrote:

rebeljim Wrote:Since there's been talk on here what it will be, here's the early version of it.

Ole Miss is a 10-point favorite for Houston Nutt’s debut as head coach of the Rebels against Memphis. Like I recently mentioned, Texas transfer Jevan Snead looked extremely impressive in the Rebels’ spring game, as did versatile playmaker Dexter McCluster, who is a poor man’s version of UF’s Percy Harvin and/or Mizzou’s Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...ory/732364

Since this will be one of the very few games the Webels will be favored in this season, I can understand why you jumped on that line so early. Savor it while it lasts but don't get all carried away and bet your grocery money on it.

Exactly. I would be pumped as well. This is one of the 3 times they are going to be favorites, and maybe pull out a W. 3-9 again baby. Hotty Toddy, gosh were Sucky.

UM_REBELS Wrote:"All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette."

Ole Miss is one of the founding members of the SEC. To say that we don't deserve the profits from it is just stupid. It's like complaining about a doctor that makes money. He had vision and worked for it. You didn't. Grow up.

I would say we are still working for it chief. It is also safe to say that Ole Piss does way less with way more, and yes we are in C-USA and have managed to do way more with way less.

Hard to get to? You can drive from Memphis to Oxford on 4 lanes, all the way. Hardly difficult. Our fan base is larger than yours, you own hometown newspaper publishes Ole Miss articles like it's their home team, so I doubt the market is that small. We have better facilities ON campus, and we actually own them. We provide an actual college atmosphere instead of a psuedo-arena ball, parking lot experience. The Mannings, the Grove, tradition..... You're right, Memphis is a much better fit in the SEC.

UM_REBELS Wrote:"All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette."

Ole Miss is one of the founding members of the SEC. To say that we don't deserve the profits from it is just stupid. It's like complaining about a doctor that makes money. He had vision and worked for it. You didn't. Grow up.

Typical mississippi. Always living in the past. Since the early 1960's mississippi has been irrelevant when it comes to major college football and has done nothing but draw their welfare check from the $ec,year in and year out. It amazes me how each year these rebel fans become more and more delusional when it comes to their football program. I'd love to see what the University Of Memphis could do if they had the same hand out given to them that the rebs recieve every year.

UM_REBELS Wrote:Hard to get to? You can drive from Memphis to Oxford on 4 lanes, all the way. Hardly difficult. Our fan base is larger than yours, you own hometown newspaper publishes Ole Miss articles like it's their home team, so I doubt the market is that small. We have better facilities ON campus, and we actually own them. We provide an actual college atmosphere instead of a psuedo-arena ball, parking lot experience. The Mannings, the Grove, tradition..... You're right, Memphis is a much better fit in the SEC.

Calm down there sparky. But you keep telling yourself that every night before you go to bed and you'll feel much better. Also before you go to bed each night, get on your knee's and thank God for that $ec welfare check your little program recieves every year.

Oh boy here we go again. The most pre-game smack we will see all year and it is not even a rivalry.

Memphis fan in jeans with a Natty light - $10
Ole Miss fan in red polo button down long sleeve shirt with a foo foo drink - $50
Kicking Ole Miss down in their best year in 50 - Priceless

I am actually more interested to see how we will stand toe to toe with the UoL later in the season.

UM_REBELS Wrote:"All the advantages in the world and you still suck. If you didn't have the $EC and the welfare check to prop you up, you would be Louisiana Lafayette."

Ole Miss is one of the founding members of the SEC. To say that we don't deserve the profits from it is just stupid. It's like complaining about a doctor that makes money. He had vision and worked for it. You didn't. Grow up.

Only an Ole Miss fan would the find rational in comparing a doctor and his/her success to their Universities affiliation with an athletic conference.

UM_REBELS Wrote:Hard to get to? You can drive from Memphis to Oxford on 4 lanes, all the way. Hardly difficult. Our fan base is larger than yours, you own hometown newspaper publishes Ole Miss articles like it's their home team, so I doubt the market is that small. We have better facilities ON campus, and we actually own them. We provide an actual college atmosphere instead of a psuedo-arena ball, parking lot experience. The Mannings, the Grove, tradition..... You're right, Memphis is a much better fit in the SEC.

first of all, Biff, I never said anything about Memphis as it relates to the above post. Whether or not you want to admit it, Oxford is difficult for other teams/journalists to get to vs most other 'major' universities.

You have a better football stadium, granted. But that all goes back to the SEC welfare argument. It wasn't long ago that 'the Vaught' was a glorified High School stadium. You couldn't even walk from one side of the stadium to ther other.

Comparing MEM to OM and their current 'fit' into the SEC is apples and oranges due to the previously mentioned welfare checks that OM has been lucky enough to receive.

If you 'doubt' the market is 'that small', you ought to do a little research.

I've figured from day one the line would be 8-9 points..

10 points seems a tad high..and you never can tell how things play out..but if OM gets an early lead I look for them to wear us down with the running game...and possibly pull away late.

If we can capture some early momentum and surprise OM, then it is possible we win the thing outright.

OM has one thing going for them they havent the last few years..

Capt Caveman is gone..

I'm still trying to figure out how Memphis had better facilities than UT in 1970. I mean, Neyland Stadium was there wasn't it? Did they recently add 80,000 seats?

As much as you guys hate it, Ole Miss IS in the SEC and IS a founding member. Sorry, but any complaining by smaller programs is just childish. If Memphis had paid attention to sports years ago, you'd be reaping the benefits.

And no, Oxford is no more difficult to reach than any other college town. We can't all be located a few miles from a decaying metropolis. Thank Heavens. Can you see College Gameday in downtown Detroit? Yep, that's what college football is all about.

MemTigerFan Wrote:

RationalRebel Wrote:If I were a betting man and I've been known to be, I'd run as far away from this line as possible. Conventional wisdom says to take Memphis +10 which means Ole Miss wins either by 11 or by a good bit more than that. Vegas gots to get theirs somehow.

they do, in the betting fees. For most betting, the idea is to try to break even on each side, and take the money from the fees. The line changes based on how people are betting, basically trying to keep the line at this middle point.

Right but I just don't get starting the line at 10. I would have thought it to be 6' or 7 which is probably what it'll settle down to come kickoff.

UM_REBELS Wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how Memphis had better facilities than UT in 1970. I mean, Neyland Stadium was there wasn't it? Did they recently add 80,000 seats?

As much as you guys hate it, Ole Miss IS in the SEC and IS a founding member. Sorry, but any complaining by smaller programs is just childish. If Memphis had paid attention to sports years ago, you'd be reaping the benefits.

And no, Oxford is no more difficult to reach than any other college town. We can't all be located a few miles from a decaying metropolis. Thank Heavens. Can you see College Gameday in downtown Detroit? Yep, that's what college football is all about.

I am sure they would prefer the sceneic catfish farm that is Oxford.
They have really been coming there alot the last couple of years, huh?
Didn't yall used to have a game slated every year for a prime time broadcast on ESPN (the SEC gold standard of success might I add). Whatever happended to that? Do yall ever play that other team any more? Seems like the two of you got so lousy that NO ONE CARES!!!

And nobody is complaining about Ole Pee-pee's existence as a memeber of the SEC; we all unanimously hate Ole Miss merely for existing. It would not matter if yall were in the Sun Belt, as long as the vast majority of your fan base act like total tools, then we will continue to keep it real wit ya'. I do not think anyone envies the piss poor shape your athletics have slippe dinto. Everyone just beleives that Memphis would find itself in a much bettter position if we were alloted the same amenities that being in a big conference affords your favorite team. And given our recent successes as compared to Ole tinklies, we may have a valid point.





And Ole Miss is gay.

UM_REBELS Wrote:What did LSU do from 1958 to 2003? Not much. They were middle of the pack. So I guess the SEC should have kicked them out? Brilliant.

You're obviously no historian. LSU won five SEC championships between 1959 and 2002. They also played in 22 bowls and finished the season ranked 22 times during that stretch. Eleven of those seasons they finished ranked in the Top 10 nationally.

he we go with the old worn out crap from the mississippi fans. we are not going to say anything nice about your school. neither does state or lsu. get over it and find another place to hang out. i dont give a crap about mississppi or anything in oxford. thats not going to charge no matter what you say on here. now just move on...........

Yep, and in the same time frame, Ole Miss went to 25 bowls, ending the season ranked 14 times. Rebs went 18-24-3 Head to Head with LSU. Not exactly domination. I suggest, you lookup the Memphis - Southern Miss record. By your argument, Memphis should be kicked out of CUSA, because Southern has accomplished so much more.

UM_REBELS Wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how Memphis had better facilities than UT in 1970. I mean, Neyland Stadium was there wasn't it? Did they recently add 80,000 seats?

As much as you guys hate it, Ole Miss IS in the SEC and IS a founding member. Sorry, but any complaining by smaller programs is just childish. If Memphis had paid attention to sports years ago, you'd be reaping the benefits.

And no, Oxford is no more difficult to reach than any other college town. We can't all be located a few miles from a decaying metropolis. Thank Heavens. Can you see College Gameday in downtown Detroit? Yep, that's what college football is all about.

Have you BEEN to Neyland? That place is a dump now, and was probably even worse back then.

In the early 70s Memphis would have had a state of the art Liberty Bowl. Neyland was, and is, a decaying relic from the 30s.

The only reason people ASSUME Neyland is nice is because of it's capacity. Then again I suppose the Liberty Bowl could gain 10,000 seats if they were all as tiny as the ones in Knoxville.

Maybe it's different on the lower decks, but anywhere I've ever sat up there has been borderline worrisome--not much different than Legion Field in that regard ,honestly.

SGTJONES83rd Wrote:Vegas is crap. I hate these predictions. Most of them are biased guesses. I think it will be closer than 10

Vegas is the least biased source you will ever see. That's because the only color they see is green. They don't care one bit about BCS/non-BCS or anything else. They set their lines to where they believe it will make them the most money. They are in the business for a reason, and it's not to show favoritism.

RebelBruiser Wrote:

SGTJONES83rd Wrote:Vegas is crap. I hate these predictions. Most of them are biased guesses. I think it will be closer than 10

Vegas is the least biased source you will ever see. That's because the only color they see is green. They don't care one bit about BCS/non-BCS or anything else. They set their lines to where they believe it will make them the most money. They are in the business for a reason, and it's not to show favoritism.

For once I can agree with a mississippi fan. All Vegas cares about is the color of your money and how much of it they can get.

UM_REBELS Wrote:Yep, and in the same time frame, Ole Miss went to 25 bowls, ending the season ranked 14 times. Rebs went 18-24-3 Head to Head with LSU. Not exactly domination. I suggest, you lookup the Memphis - Southern Miss record. By your argument, Memphis should be kicked out of CUSA, because Southern has accomplished so much more.

if you really want someone to buy into the theory that Omrs brings as much to the table as LSU, then you need to stick to your little Mississippi message boards.

OM remains the ONLY SEC West school not to play for the SEC Championship.

Times have changed since the days of Archie. Unfortunately for you, your school has not.