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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080706/D91O8E100.html

550 metric tons of 'yellowcake' found in Iraq. It can't be.03-banghead
Not weapons grade, and well known to the IAEA before the war. Try again.
from the article:

...The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions...

...Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment...

..Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say...

...The yellowcake wasn't the only dangerous item removed from Tuwaitha.

Earlier this year, the military withdrew four devices for controlled radiation exposure from the former nuclear complex. The lead-enclosed irradiation units, used to decontaminate food and other items, contain elements of high radioactivity that could potentially be used in a weapon, according to the official. Their Ottawa-based manufacturer, MDS Nordion, took them back for free, the official said...

...But the job ahead is enormous, complicated by digging out radioactive "hot zones" entombed in concrete during Saddam's rule, said the IAEA official. Last year, an IAEA safety expert, Dennis Reisenweaver, predicted the cleanup could take "many years."...



and a pretty good try, I might add. It was still there, and now it isn't.
I recall some saying we didn't find anything. Guess they were and are wrong.

oldblazer79 Wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080706/D91O8E100.html

550 metric tons of 'yellowcake' found in Iraq. It can't be.03-banghead



"Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said."

We knew about this before the war in 1991.

Lou-A-B Wrote:

oldblazer79 Wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080706/D91O8E100.html

550 metric tons of 'yellowcake' found in Iraq. It can't be.03-banghead



"Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said."

We knew about this before the war in 1991.

yes, we knew. the entire world knew, too.
the klinton admin. knew as well. this was one of the reasons for 'slick's' admin. to codify a 'policy of regime change in Iraq.'
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/L...on/ILA.htm
Bill left the heavy lifting (anything heavier than a skirt/dress) to his successor.
If you care to recall, saddam 'kicked out' the iaea and u.n. inspectors prior (1998) to the war, also.
http://www.nci.org/new/iraq-ib.htm
there were no independent safeguards or varifications for 5 years prior to the war.

my oh my, how time clouds/erases memory. how politically convenient.

I'm sorry, I don't feel very threatened by lead encased barrels of radioactive waste buried in concrete. Don't get me wrong, taking it out of circulation so it can't be used to make a dirty bomb or something is a good thing. I'm just saying that pointing at it and saying "See! See! We found it, here are the missing WMD's!" (that we used as excuse to go to war, before we went to war to free the Iraqi people from a despot, before we went to war to seed democracy in the Middle East, before we went to war for whatever the latest justification is here lately.)

It was there, we knew it was there, and what was there was and is no threat to us. Sure, you can make weapons grade from yellowcake - if you have enough of it, and tens of thousands of centrifuges and time and expertise and facilities and expert scientists to make it.

UAB Band Dad Wrote:
I'm sorry, I don't feel very threatened by lead encased barrels of radioactive waste buried in concrete. Don't get me wrong, taking it out of circulation so it can't be used to make a dirty bomb or something is a good thing. I'm just saying that pointing at it and saying "See! See! We found it, here are the missing WMD's!" (that we used as excuse to go to war, before we went to war to free the Iraqi people from a despot, before we went to war to seed democracy in the Middle East, before we went to war for whatever the latest justification is here lately.)

It was there, we knew it was there, and what was there was and is no threat to us. Sure, you can make weapons grade from yellowcake - if you have enough of it, and tens of thousands of centrifuges and time and expertise and facilities and expert scientists to make it.

correction: the yellowcake WAS NOT encased in lead barrels and buried in concrete.
At least you no longer deny what was moved could've been used as weapons. Bravo, BD. It takes courage to face the truth sometimes.
But don't contradict your argument by saying 'It was there, we knew it was there, and what was there was and is no threat to us'.
It is no longer a threat to ANYONE.
correction: I didn't post "See! See! We found it, here are the missing WMD's!". That would be
the political lefts' talking points defense YOU linked to, then posted. I see the left wing blogosphere is hard at work.
The topic of the thread was "hmmm. How long will it take 'mainstream' media to report this?"
Unfortunately [for our country], the political left has a willing collaborator in the so-called 'mainstream media'.
Deny away, but this IS one of the wmd's the entire world [including the lefts' idol klinton, as well as those in congress and media circa 1998]
knew saddam had in his possession. Some of the very same deniers the 'mainstream press' fellates at every turn.
Spin away. Bury your head. I fully expected it.
That's too bad because, politics aside, the facts are
it WAS there
the entire world knew it was there, including iaea and u.n. (interesting pre-war assessment http://www.nci.org/new/iraq-ib.htm)
the left [including so-called 'mainstream media'] has said there were NO wmd's, conveniently forgetting
saddam kicked out the only independent safeguards 5 years before the war (read link)
I know, Bush lied (just make this one less lie)
blah, blah, blah03-muttering
I'm certain you can recite the rest.

Do you know what kind of facilities it would have taken to turn those rocks into anything useful? Iraq did not even have the centrifuges required to enrich that uranium. It's like having a ton of bullets, but no shell casings, no gun powder, and no gun.

Also I thought the AP was mainstream media?

mixduptransistor Wrote:
Do you know what kind of facilities it would have taken to turn those rocks into anything useful? Iraq did not even have the centrifuges required to enrich that uranium. It's like having a ton of bullets, but no shell casings, no gun powder, and no gun.

Also I thought the AP was mainstream media?

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/...wcake.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake
http://www.chemcases.com/nuclear/nc-06.htm

yes I do. did you read the entire report? h#ll, I posted nearly the entire da#n thing for you.
and you can continue to deny, deny?03-banghead
there were no safeguards for five years prior to the war http://www.nci.org/new/iraq-ib.htm
conveniently forgot those u.n. sanctions and saddam kicking out the independent inspectors, have you.04-chairshot

add the latest to these http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/2...entrifuge/
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...E_ID=38213

yep, ap is one of the collective 'mainstream'.
I'm certain we'll see this in all print and on all electronic media anytime now,
buried in the 'oh, by the way columns' or a 3 sec. 'afterthought' on the nightly news. But I'm not holding my breath.
yeah, it'll get the same play as all the 'Bush lied' segments, NOT.

Ok, you lost me.

So are you saying this is the stuff from Nigeria, he was trying to buy?

Is this the Nuclear program, he had restarted?

Is this the connection to Al-queada?

Are these the mobile biological weapons labs?


Other than the remains of a blown up power plant, similar to chernobyl, what is this?
Ok, so from the CNN article we find that the centrifuge parts were buried 17 years ago and the scientists fled the country anyway. The article says the US admits that it wasn't evidence that Saddam had an active nuclear program. The worldnetdaily article is full of nothing but "may have been used" and "suspected". Please bring hard evidence to the table when we're talking about something this serious. And yes, I red the original article. I read it again. I don't see anything anywhere that mentions centrifuges or ballistic missiles capable of posing a threat to the United States. Half of it is dedicated to talking about who they sold it to and how they shipped it out of the country.
Kinda like I have a barn full of fertilizer in Ohatchee that "could" be used to build a bomb....It also Could be used to make the grass grow for the Brangus cows to eat.

Bush is an idiot the sooner you admit his policy's are wrong the better you will sleep at night.

HellBlazer Wrote:
Kinda like I have a barn full of fertilizer in Ohatchee that "could" be used to build a bomb....It also Could be used to make the grass grow for the Brangus cows to eat.

Bush is an idiot the sooner you admit his policy's are wrong the better you will sleep at night.

He ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, for certain.
I'll allow history to unfold, instead of coming to premature conclusions as has the american political left.
More of this type of revelation will follow.
The question remains (thread title), will the 'mainstream media' report it with the same vigor as they report left wing talking points?
I won't hold my breath.
I've posted before, he's made mistakes.
imo,
tax cuts and the war aren't them. He should have kept all the politicos from trying to micro-manage the war, though.
Allowing congress to spend like drunken sailors IS [a mistake].
Until 2009, he never saw a spending bill he didn't like. We'll all pay for that nonsense.
Allowing Ted Kennedy to author/sponsor NCLB is another mistake.
Not cleaning house at the Dept. of Justice beginning his first term [as did klinton] would be another.
I sleep pretty well every night because my happiness is not going to be determined by which tool is elected President.
Some [presidents] present more hurdles than others, though.

HellBlazer Wrote:
Bush is an idiot the sooner you admit his policy's are wrong the better you will sleep at night.


Bush isn't an idiot. He's just intentionally stupid.

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