We all know what has happened in C-DOA vs sunbelt bowl games. LOL! The sunbelt is getting some more bowls. UNT is getting a new football stadium. C-DOA wants to raid the sunbelt. LOL!
The sunbelt has surpassed C-DOA.
C-DOA has a losing record (since realigment) v.s. bowl games against the mwc.
C-DOA has lost to some 1AA teams. The question should be if 1AA/FCS has surpassed C-DOA.
When will C-DOA be as good as 1AA teams/FCS? LOL!
CDOA has mostly sunbelt caliber teams. they just won't admit it to themselves. The truth is that anyone who came into that conference would be immediately competitive.
CDOA has mostly sunbelt caliber teams. they just won't admit it to themselves. The truth is that anyone who came into that conference would be immediately competitive.
it's called infrastructure numbnuts...C-USA schools have much larger budgets than Sun Belt schools...as an example, Memphis has an athletic budget of 31 million dollars...Arky State has a budget of well under 13 million...that's leads to better TV contracts (which we have with both ESPN and CSTV)...which leads to more/better bowl games...which lead to what? even more money!
you really don't understand the point of a conference do you? i'll make it simple - $$$
Go Tigers!!!
Drew
And the WAC makes its money by doing something your conference fails to do. Get into the BCS. YOu see numbnuts. your conference may have bigger budgets but does absolutely nothing with it. And without the help of the city of Memphis, your facilities would be nil.
And the WAC makes its money by doing something your conference fails to do. Get into the BCS. YOu see numbnuts. your conference may have bigger budgets but does absolutely nothing with it. And without the help of the city of Memphis, your facilities would be nil.
and the WAC has to share half their BCS money with all the non-BCS conferences. It really isn't a huge amount of the pie.
The C-USA is considered an equity conference. Most of our teams have a budget topping $25 million while most in the sunbelt are in the low $10's. We have the ability to buy better coaches, more attendance, and more bowls.
Troy fan here. Just wanted to know what you all thought about us. Personally, I believe we could match any one of C-USA's teams on the field. We may not have the budget that some of the USA teams have, but we tend to get more bang for our buck with what we DO have. You've all seen us play the big boys (and win one here and there) so what do you think of us in particular?
And the WAC makes its money by doing something your conference fails to do. Get into the BCS. YOu see numbnuts. your conference may have bigger budgets but does absolutely nothing with it. And without the help of the city of Memphis, your facilities would be nil.
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Without the Louisiana taxpayers your program wouldnt be just nil, you WOULDNT EVEN HAVE ONE.
And the WAC makes its money by doing something your conference fails to do. Get into the BCS. YOu see numbnuts. your conference may have bigger budgets but does absolutely nothing with it. And without the help of the city of Memphis, your facilities would be nil.
When the dufuses frome the WACkoff conference start making their way back to our board, then it must be football season again. The BCS births that you clowns have been getting are based upon you playing the weakest schedules in all of college football, in other words your schedules are 
. So when you guys start lining up against some real competition and are still able to get to the BCS game births, then we might take notice. BTW, does this score look familiar?
ECU 34
Boise State 31
that was a great game Pirate. I do recall Hawaii and Boise beating pac ten teams on there schedule to get there. Both being Washington. and Boise biotch slapping Oklahome in the BCS game though.. so really hard to make that point. And you barely pulled off a win against Boise who did not beat Hawaii to win the conference. But it was a great win nonetheless. ask Southern Miss
Troy fan here. Just wanted to know what you all thought about us.
Not a whole helluva lot. 
that was a great game Pirate. I do recall Hawaii and Boise beating pac ten teams on there schedule to get there. Both being Washington. and Boise biotch slapping Oklahome in the BCS game though.. so really hard to make that point. And you barely pulled off a win against Boise who did not beat Hawaii to win the conference. But it was a great win nonetheless. ask Southern Miss
First of all, Washington sucked! Their quarterback can't even throw, so if BSU and Hawaii could not beat Washington, then they are much worse then we thought. In fact Washington was worse then UNC and NCSU, by a whole lot; so any argument containing Washington is a bad one.
Secondly, ECU hit a field goal to win the game, but if you watched the game, then you would have seen that ECU dominated Boise State for three quarters. ECU's total domination on the O line is what allowed Chris Johnson to set the Hawaii bowl rushing record. Boise State did not show any signs of life until the end of the 3rd quarter, which is when the referee gave them some serious homer calls and ECU's offensive play calling became to conservative. But for the refs and ECU's decision to let up, then that score would have been a blowout in favor of ECU. Finally, Boise didn't biotch slap Oklahoma; the final score of the game was 43-42. And in case you haven't noticed, Oklahoma and Ohio State are terrible in bowl games. In conclusion, Hawaii and Boise should join a real conference, so that they can face some real comptetition.
and i hope that conference isnt yours cause come on buddy. CUSA is almost right there with the Belt right now. AS a matter of fact the old WAC members are thriving in CUSA and they were horrible in the WAC. And how can you use the arguement that you dominated Boise when you needed a last drive to come from behind and then turn around and say that Boise didnt dominate Oklahoma because clearly you weren't watching the game. They were beating them in all aspects of the game for three quarters as well. Hey I have no beef about your win. It was one of the few fun games to watch last season and I love seeing Boise brought down a few pegs some time.
and i hope that conference isnt yours cause come on buddy. CUSA is almost right there with the Belt right now. AS a matter of fact the old WAC members are thriving in CUSA and they were horrible in the WAC. And how can you use the arguement that you dominated Boise when you needed a last drive to come from behind and then turn around and say that Boise didnt dominate Oklahoma because clearly you weren't watching the game. They were beating them in all aspects of the game for three quarters as well. Hey I have no beef about your win. It was one of the few fun games to watch last season and I love seeing Boise brought down a few pegs some time.
as always...your comments are baseless.
conferences are judged by revenue, athletic budgets, TV contracts, bowl alliances, fan-base size, and overall coaching salary's...in ALL of those area's, C-USA is clearly above the SBC/MAC/WAC...we're second only to the MWC...and the only reason the WAC is close is because of the BCS bid. (and thx for that, by the way...the WAC has to share the monies made off the BCS bid with the other non-BCS schools...so, thx!)
i mean honestly, it looks like Idaho might have to go back to the FCS...the WAC and MWC need to merge, and La Tech needs to go back to the Belt where they belong...but i doubt they want Tech back...and fans like you are why...far too much attitude for someone from freaking Ruston, LA...makes Hattiesburg look like New York.
for a school that wants in C-USA very badly, you sure spend a lot of time over here trying to convince us C-USA is crap.
if it's so bad...why bother posting in the first place.
you, sir, are a troll...plain and simple.
Go Tigers!!!
Drew
conferences are not judged by revenue. they are judged by the kind of teams you put on the field and how they perform. they are judged by having a losing record against the belt last year. They are judged for having a one trick pony basketball conference. They are judged by having a pathetically low RPI. YOu guys keep telling yourself that about revenue because the truth is the country is bored with your six bowl bids of 6-5 teams. They are judged by being BCS busters and yes sometimes winning them. They are judged by great Memphis in basketball and horrible S. Miss in basketball. Stop telling yourself that you are some power conference because your schools sit in great media markets. Of which no one cares to show up at the games anyway. You talk about our horrible fan support yet we average 18k for games in a city of 20k and your schools cant draw that in Houston, Dallas and Birmingham. Your media markets don't translate to fan support and they definitely don't translate to winning games and they definitely don't make a great conference. And its a smack board Memphis boy. you have more Trolls talking down on my school every chance you get so get the freak used to it. Until you shut up about us, we will call you out too.
conferences are not judged by revenue. they are judged by the kind of teams you put on the field and how they perform. they are judged by having a losing record against the belt last year. They are judged for having a one trick pony basketball conference. They are judged by having a pathetically low RPI. YOu guys keep telling yourself that about revenue because the truth is the country is bored with your six bowl bids of 6-5 teams. They are judged by being BCS busters and yes sometimes winning them. They are judged by great Memphis in basketball and horrible S. Miss in basketball. Stop telling yourself that you are some power conference because your schools sit in great media markets. Of which no one cares to show up at the games anyway. You talk about our horrible fan support yet we average 18k for games in a city of 20k and your schools cant draw that in Houston, Dallas and Birmingham. Your media markets don't translate to fan support and they definitely don't translate to winning games and they definitely don't make a great conference. And its a smack board Memphis boy. you have more Trolls talking down on my school every chance you get so get the freak used to it. Until you shut up about us, we will call you out too.
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Hmmmm. So, you average 18,000 for football games & average gate receipts are $110,000. Consider 3,000 of those 18,000 as students thus 15,000 paid for average ticket price of $6.11. Man, no wonder your athletic program is a ward of the state taxpayer. Healthy programs charge fans from $20. up to $45. I know your charge for the upcoming ms state game is $40 but that is only once in 100 years so not considered usual. Again, your statements are only opinions whereas you can look to me for FACTS. Just like your recent and glorious "happening" in Monroe. The "announced" attendance was 1400 however it was a buy your ticket, sit down dinner. They set tables and places to accomodate 720 people but alas not all of them showed up as evidenced by several tables not more than half full.
conferences are not judged by revenue. they are judged by the kind of teams you put on the field and how they perform. they are judged by having a losing record against the belt last year. They are judged for having a one trick pony basketball conference.
And teams are judged by their performance: La Tech had one of the worst 20 teams in the nation in basketball; La Tech has had 1 bowl game since the early 1990s, and that was a blowout loss against a .500 team. The rest of the minor sports (except women's basketball, but including baseball) at La Tech were at the bottom of the sunbelt and are at the bottom of the WAC.
That's how La Tech is judged.
The biggest indicator that La Tech is simply not in C-USA's league is this: Missisippi State is deemed the biggest home game in Tech history. A team that C-USA programs have hosted dozens of times, is the biggest opener ever for La Tech.
On a side note, congratulations on your bottom 20 basketball team losing a scholarship because of lack of academic progress.
conferences are not judged by revenue. they are judged by the kind of teams you put on the field and how they perform. they are judged by having a losing record against the belt last year. They are judged for having a one trick pony basketball conference.
And teams are judged by their performance: La Tech had one of the worst 20 teams in the nation in basketball; La Tech has had 1 bowl game since the early 1990s, and that was a blowout loss against a .500 team. The rest of the minor sports (except women's basketball, but including baseball) at La Tech were at the bottom of the sunbelt and are at the bottom of the WAC.
That's how La Tech is judged.
The biggest indicator that La Tech is simply not in C-USA's league is this: Missisippi State is deemed the biggest home game in Tech history. A team that C-USA programs have hosted dozens of times, is the biggest opener ever for La Tech.
On a side note, congratulations on your bottom 20 basketball team losing a scholarship because of lack of academic progress.
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And Loser Tech has only five winning seasons out of the last fifteen years in football. Baseball team lost so many games last year and finished at the bottom of the wac so didnt even qualify for the wac tourney which was held in Rustytown. I love it when these losers come over here and want to compare. I hope they want to compare facilities and budgets next.
and i hope that conference isnt yours cause come on buddy. CUSA is almost right there with the Belt right now. AS a matter of fact the old WAC members are thriving in CUSA and they were horrible in the WAC. And how can you use the arguement that you dominated Boise when you needed a last drive to come from behind
Your comments about the ECU and Boise State game shows that you either did not watch it or you could not comprehend what you were watching. ECU pounded them for almost three quarters, but a couple of iffy calls by the ref; some conservative play calling ECU and a fumble by Chris Johnson allowed Boise to get back in the game. Even the Boise State folks admit to that; it is not even in dispute.
Secondly, the Sun Belt conference is no where near as good as CUSA. You saw a few Sun Belt teams, beat essentially the same two CUSA teams (Memphis and UAB), and now you are reasoning that the Sun Belt must be better than CUSA. Those wins would actually put the Sun Belt Champion at about 5th or 6th place in CUSA, not at the top. But then again you are the only person alive that saw CUSA teams defeat the best teams in the MWC and WAC and still think that that CUSA is beneath the pitiful Sun Belt conference. Stop smoking weed.
well that doesn't say much for Memphis football now does it. I don't recall Tech losing to a sunbelt team in quite a while. And you are right Tech is judged by the product but we were talking about the conference. And lets not forget that Tech was 7-5 just 2 short years ago and got left out of the bowls by a lesser deserving Memphis team that had a marquee player on it. And a 9-2 team that was ranked that got left out of a bowl. So yes Tech has one bowl but trust, if they had been in your lousy conference they would have been to many more. And as far as smoking weed goes. Got any? And so you know, its the biggest game to come to Ruston Not come to Louisiana Tech. We have had several home games with huge draws that wouldn't fit in the stadium. So yes while we are excited about the Mississippi State game, they are not the biggest name we have had to come here. We are fortunate to have the option of Shreveport. Southern Miss could have probably brought in more for the Nebraska game if it were in Jackson. This one is for the students
And EE shut up with your stupid gate receipt stats. YOu are so freaking boring with that crap. Look all schools but LSU are wardens of the state. The state is partly to blame for that as well. If we could release student fees, like most other states our budget would be much higher. As it is Tech already has made great moves to get the budget up to 16 now. Yes we know EE we know it needs even more but god at least we are doing something now instead of staying stagnant like the last AD. I mean ULM and ULL don't even top 10.And for whoever asked earlier, the whitewashing went very well. look white.http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2567&d=1217937221
And EE shut up with your stupid gate receipt stats. YOu are so freaking boring with that crap. Look all schools but LSU are wardens of the state. The state is partly to blame for that as well. If we could release student fees, like most other states our budget would be much higher. As it is Tech already has made great moves to get the budget up to 16 now. Yes we know EE we know it needs even more but god at least we are doing something now instead of staying stagnant like the last AD. I mean ULM and ULL don't even top 10.And for whoever asked earlier, the whitewashing went very well. look white.http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2567&d=1217937221
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Guess what. LSU cannot collect student athletic fees either but to off set that they CHARGE THEIR STUDENTS FOR TICKETS. Louisiana will not allow any of the state schools to charge student athletic fees because of the free tuition program. LSU therefore charges students for tickets, it averages about $20. per ticket for football. Could that be one of the reasons LSU is not a ward of the state like Loser Tech? Why doesnt Loser Tech do that? Wait, I know, if they did then no one would be at their games except the teams and the officials. LSU, the school you so dearly love, charges their students three times MORE for a ticket than Loser Tech charges the general public. The fees you mention at Loser Tech are for such things as energy surcharges, lab fees, etc. Surely you, although obviously ignorant (I wont say stupid) can understand why those fees cant be transferred to athletics. Also, I will not shut up about your gate receipts. Gate receipts clearly define a program, it washes away all the smoke and mirrors, all the "announced" attendances, etc. One can look at the figures and make their own conclusion. Your program, for example, collected just over $800,000 in ticket sales for ALL home games, both MEN AND WOMEN, in ALL sports for the last audited year and about the same for the year before. Frame that and look at it before you ever get the nerve to degrade another program.
oh yeah right. i am sure that is the only reason. you are a joke man. to even compare LSU with the other schools. People eat live and breath LSU in Louisiana. Not an even playing field man.
They spend 10m on the upkeep of the tiger cage man. that is run like a professional franchise down there.
oh yeah right. i am sure that is the only reason. you are a joke man. to even compare LSU with the other schools. People eat live and breath LSU in Louisiana. Not an even playing field man.
They spend 10m on the upkeep of the tiger cage man. that is run like a professional franchise down there.
He made a reasonable point - instead of always going for a tax (which "Student fees" are) why not charge user fees - charge students for a ticket.
Raise your own money.
Louisiana will not allow any of the state schools to charge student athletic fees because of the free tuition program.
You keep saying this. Are you talking about TOPS?
conferences are not judged by revenue. the ENTIRE reason conferences we formed was to get money, and insure bowl bids...THAT was the point of conferences in the first place. they are judged by the kind of teams you put on the field and how they perform. no, individual school are graded that way, but not a conference as a whole they are judged by having a losing record against the belt last year. lol, no they're not...sure didn't stop us from going to yet another bowl game...what bowl did Tech play in last season? the year before? the year before that? They are judged for having a one trick pony basketball conference. uhhh, Memphis played in the National Title, Tulsa won the CBI, and UAB played in the NIT...hell, UAB has a sweet 16 from just a couple of seasons ago...Tech basketball is a JOKE. They are judged by having a pathetically low RPI. says the team that finished at #329 in the RPI...now THAT'S funny! YOu guys keep telling yourself that about revenue because the truth is the country is bored with your six bowl bids of 6-5 teams. once again, UCF won 10 games...Tulsa won 10 games...Houston won 8 games...ECU won 8 games...Southern Miss won 7...Memphis won 7...so i'm just trying to figure out which C-USA team went 6-5? i know Tech football sucks, but even you should know we play 12 games now. They are judged by being BCS busters and yes sometimes winning them. They are judged by great Memphis in basketball and horrible S. Miss in basketball. the same "horrible" USM squad which finished higher in the RPI than Tech? Stop telling yourself that you are some power conference because your schools sit in great media markets. that's just icing on the cake Of which no one cares to show up at the games anyway. uh, Memphis brings 30,000 to football games and 17,000 to basketball games...may want to re-think that You talk about our horrible fan support yet we average 18k for games in a city of 20k and your schools cant draw that in Houston, Dallas and Birmingham. Houston averaged 21,000 last season...i have no idea about UAB Your media markets don't translate to fan support and they definitely don't translate to winning games and they definitely don't make a great conference. yes, it does. And its a smack board Memphis boy. making baseless statements isn't smack...it's just the words of some idiot in Ruston, LA...i would be pissed if i lived there as well. you have more Trolls talking down on my school every chance you get so get the freak used to it. yeah, it's OUR board...we can do that Until you shut up about us, we will call you out too. you're not smart enough to "call out" anyone.
oh yeah right. i am sure that is the only reason. you are a joke man. to even compare LSU with the other schools. People eat live and breath LSU in Louisiana. Not an even playing field man.
They spend 10m on the upkeep of the tiger cage man. that is run like a professional franchise down there.
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Review your post and notice it was YOU who raised the LSU and student athletic fee issue. You & other in state schools always complain about lack of student athletic fees so I only wanted to clarify that in noting that LSU cant charge athletic fees either but make up for that by charging the students for tickets to athletic events on campus. Why do you insult your students by not charging them, arent they just as good as the LSU kids? Appeal to their self respect, let them know your needs, let them know they are getting a completely free ride, and then take a vote. I bet they would agree to paying for their tickets too, make them feel better by knowing they are shouldering some of the responsibility. Makes for good citizens, take them off the welfare roll early.