The following post is from the Arkansas boards:
"I was passed along this info, thought I would share it...
"I only know what I've been told by allegedly in the know persons. Kin Floyd, a long time West Tenn. and Memphis high school coach, who joined the U of Memphis coaching staff under Fred Pancoast in and around 1973, remained there under Richard Williamson, and then was let go;he joined Fed Ex. He became the head of their tourist guide programs for their hub here in Memphis and at other hubs all around the US; Kin,from Vicksburg, Ms, an exOle MIss lineman, gregarious, liked by all, was rather close to Fred Smith, founder, and other Fed Ex presidents. Kin, who lived around the corner from me and was a close friend passed away 2 years ago. We visited, had coffee, etc several times a week. Thus, most of my info comes from him. He did not like it, did not approve of it, and he said most of the Fed Ex executives didn't, but this was Fred Smith's baby, a promise he himself had made to John Calipari in John's first year at Memphis as head bb coach.
"The Fed Ex intern program at the time Memphis bb players started using it was approx 125. Memphis was promised approx 15 slots purely for the U of Memphis bb players. Tommy West has tried hard, unsuccessfully, to get some football players into this program. The Memphis Commercial-Appeal ran an article on the program and the NCAA's investigation and subsequent finding of no violations.
"The person placed in charge of the Fed Ex program is a strong U of Memphis bb supporter, becomes friends,and associates with John Calipari. The NCAA has NO subpoena power. Thus, the interns are paid according to the hours the Fed Ex supervisor lets the interns turn in. During the bb off season, the bb players will come to the Fed Ex Hub 3-4 times on Friday nights, dressed in coats and ties, carrying brief cases, etc. I have heard varying sums of money these interns are paid but $15,000-$20,000 seems to be the number I've heard most. Willie Kemp is in a fraternity and several of the Memphis football players in his frat, says Willie says he gets $25,000. Thus, unless and until one of the recepients talks and agrees he got paid for doing no work, there's no violation which can be proved. In talking to other coaches this Fed Ex intern program at Memphis, taking care of the bb players on scholarship, seems to be quite unique to the U of Memphis."
http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=214845.0
Now which program should be stripped of its title appearance?
Bill Self is known throughout the coaching profession for doing things the right way. Kansas is cleaner than you guys ever DREAMED of being. There is good reason you have the national reputation that you do.
Piggie Popper Wrote:The following post is from the Arkansas boards:
"I was passed along this info, thought I would share it...
"I only know what I've been told by allegedly in the know persons. Kin Floyd, a long time West Tenn. and Memphis high school coach, who joined the U of Memphis coaching staff under Fred Pancoast in and around 1973, remained there under Richard Williamson, and then was let go;he joined Fed Ex. He became the head of their tourist guide programs for their hub here in Memphis and at other hubs all around the US; Kin,from Vicksburg, Ms, an exOle MIss lineman, gregarious, liked by all, was rather close to Fred Smith, founder, and other Fed Ex presidents. Kin, who lived around the corner from me and was a close friend passed away 2 years ago. We visited, had coffee, etc several times a week. Thus, most of my info comes from him. He did not like it, did not approve of it, and he said most of the Fed Ex executives didn't, but this was Fred Smith's baby, a promise he himself had made to John Calipari in John's first year at Memphis as head bb coach.
"The Fed Ex intern program at the time Memphis bb players started using it was approx 125. Memphis was promised approx 15 slots purely for the U of Memphis bb players. Tommy West has tried hard, unsuccessfully, to get some football players into this program. The Memphis Commercial-Appeal ran an article on the program and the NCAA's investigation and subsequent finding of no violations.
"The person placed in charge of the Fed Ex program is a strong U of Memphis bb supporter, becomes friends,and associates with John Calipari. The NCAA has NO subpoena power. Thus, the interns are paid according to the hours the Fed Ex supervisor lets the interns turn in. During the bb off season, the bb players will come to the Fed Ex Hub 3-4 times on Friday nights, dressed in coats and ties, carrying brief cases, etc. I have heard varying sums of money these interns are paid but $15,000-$20,000 seems to be the number I've heard most. Willie Kemp is in a fraternity and several of the Memphis football players in his frat, says Willie says he gets $25,000. Thus, unless and until one of the recepients talks and agrees he got paid for doing no work, there's no violation which can be proved. In talking to other coaches this Fed Ex intern program at Memphis, taking care of the bb players on scholarship, seems to be quite unique to the U of Memphis."
http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=214845.0
Now which program should be stripped of its title appearance?
Bill Self is known throughout the coaching profession for doing things the right way. Kansas is cleaner than you guys ever DREAMED of being. There is good reason you have the national reputation that you do.
i see they still don't require reading at UPigg...if they did, you would have noticed the part about the FedEx internship program being NCAA approved.
if you have a problem with it...i would suggest writing Myles Brand at the NCAA.
Go Tigers!!!
Drew
Did you not read the post you are quoting? It said NCAA found no vioations with the FedEx internship. Your point is?
Did you get this from your source, named Grit, at an Italian restaurant in Tontotown?????
Piggie Popper Wrote:The following post is from the Arkansas boards:
"I was passed along this info, thought I would share it...
"I only know what I've been told by allegedly in the know persons. Kin Floyd, a long time West Tenn. and Memphis high school coach, who joined the U of Memphis coaching staff under Fred Pancoast in and around 1973, remained there under Richard Williamson, and then was let go;he joined Fed Ex. He became the head of their tourist guide programs for their hub here in Memphis and at other hubs all around the US; Kin,from Vicksburg, Ms, an exOle MIss lineman, gregarious, liked by all, was rather close to Fred Smith, founder, and other Fed Ex presidents. Kin, who lived around the corner from me and was a close friend passed away 2 years ago. We visited, had coffee, etc several times a week. Thus, most of my info comes from him. He did not like it, did not approve of it, and he said most of the Fed Ex executives didn't, but this was Fred Smith's baby, a promise he himself had made to John Calipari in John's first year at Memphis as head bb coach.
"The Fed Ex intern program at the time Memphis bb players started using it was approx 125. Memphis was promised approx 15 slots purely for the U of Memphis bb players. Tommy West has tried hard, unsuccessfully, to get some football players into this program. The Memphis Commercial-Appeal ran an article on the program and the NCAA's investigation and subsequent finding of no violations.
"The person placed in charge of the Fed Ex program is a strong U of Memphis bb supporter, becomes friends,and associates with John Calipari. The NCAA has NO subpoena power. Thus, the interns are paid according to the hours the Fed Ex supervisor lets the interns turn in. During the bb off season, the bb players will come to the Fed Ex Hub 3-4 times on Friday nights, dressed in coats and ties, carrying brief cases, etc. I have heard varying sums of money these interns are paid but $15,000-$20,000 seems to be the number I've heard most. Willie Kemp is in a fraternity and several of the Memphis football players in his frat, says Willie says he gets $25,000. Thus, unless and until one of the recepients talks and agrees he got paid for doing no work, there's no violation which can be proved. In talking to other coaches this Fed Ex intern program at Memphis, taking care of the bb players on scholarship, seems to be quite unique to the U of Memphis."
http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=214845.0
Now which program should be stripped of its title appearance?
Bill Self is known throughout the coaching profession for doing things the right way. Kansas is cleaner than you guys ever DREAMED of being. There is good reason you have the national reputation that you do.
please tell me you don't believe that ?? good grief man.....surely you're smarter than that, aren't you ? I know Willie and believe me, none of this is true. But, if it makes you feel better about your school believe whatever you want. Oh, and don't forget our basketball players all live in a 4 story mansion with butler and maid service, they all drive New Escalades supplied by the school, each has a closet full of fur coats and none of them actually go to class....they send imposters.
Fred Smith isn't that dumb, stupid moron.
uh...isn't it the NCAA pointing fingers at Kansas ? What does Memphis have to do with what Kansas did ? Hasn't Pig U. had it's own problems ? Why do you even care ?
Piggie Popper Wrote:The following post is from the Arkansas boards:
I stopped reading right there...
there just has to another reason we are winning games besides playing the game than everyone else....there just has to....
Keep obsessing....woooooo pig.
Quote:Look to your own house, Memphis, before pointing fingers at Kansas
Hey dumb***, it is a Dallas TV station reporter and a former teacher pointing fingers at Arthur and by association Kansas since he played for them.
At least Memphis fans don't go shooting at a coach's horse:
http://www.guardonline.com/?q=node/11087
"I've been here 16 years. The first year here, my daughter was dying of leukemia and I had a bomb threat at my house," Richardson said. "Last year, somebody cut the manes on my horses. Somebody shot one of my horses with a high-powered rifle Monday morning."
same stupid crap Tennstud posted on the UT board with some additional embellishments. Are all you loser SEC punks that jealous?
F U Bi-ch!
Unless you're Vandy, don't any of you SEC hoes come over here with a holier than memphis Tigers attitude.
I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
I love the need to repeat Tennstud posts. How lame is it when Hog fans repeat UTK posts, lol. This from the same folks with co-captains going to Federal prison for guns and drugs, lol. I wish that he would come back so I could ask him about the Hog boosters buying Jerry Eckwood's family a convenience store, lol. In case, he really bothers with facts, he can call Indianapolis and find out about the intern program.
I knew Kin Floyd very well, and he and Roy Adams "tenn stud" hung out for years. Roy buys friends with food, booze, parties, and has deep pockets.
This is the same drivel Adams spouts on the Tennessee board. He is insanely jealous of the successful Memphis Basketball program, and it pains him greatly that his orange team can't get past the Sweet 16.
Now we have someone from an "Arkansas board" who posts the same crap.
Tennstud will go to his grave trying to dislodge Memphis Basketball from
their successful position.
What a bitter, miserable old fart he is.
texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
And your point is what? That maybe the players did not work every single minute of the clock time? What a waste of time for a newbie. There have been countless stories about the positve nature of the program and the growth they go through. It is an educational experience and one that is repeated many times over in program development activities for current and POTENTIAL FUTURE EMPLOYEES. FEDEX gives. Period. Are they perfect of course not.
You seem to be complaining that you had to work hard for your money. You should be thankful for the opporutnity. If you could have made more and work less hard somewhere else I'm assuming you would have taken that job.
Have you ever thought that someone may have passed by a few times during your self described long wait and said "what a waste of time that guy is."
In fact I will say it! Waht a wste of time you are on this board. If you are a fan you used poor judgement attempting to single out a small snapshot of one experience and paint that as what the program is. If you are a sick vol fan here to stir up trouble or maybe even tennstud up to your old lies, you failed to make your case.
texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
And your point is???
OK, Billy and Antonio were sitting in the break room talking to the old man. And the old man was in the break room talking to Billy and Antonio. Don't tell me the old man was playing on the bb team too. So what, if the two bb guys and an old man were taking long breaks.
Tigerx3 Wrote:texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
And your point is what? That maybe the players did not work every single minute of the clock time? What a waste of time for a newbie. There have been countless stories about the positve nature of the program and the growth they go through. It is an educational experience and one that is repeated many times over in program development activities for current and POTENTIAL FUTURE EMPLOYEES. FEDEX gives. Period. Are they perfect of course not.
You seem to be complaining that you had to work hard for your money. You should be thankful for the opporutnity. If you could have made more and work less hard somewhere else I'm assuming you would have taken that job.
Have you ever thought that someone may have passed by a few times during your self described long wait and said "what a waste of time that guy is."
In fact I will say it! Waht a wste of time you are on this board. If you are a fan you used poor judgement attempting to single out a small snapshot of one experience and paint that as what the program is. If you are a sick vol fan here to stir up trouble or maybe even tennstud up to your old lies, you failed to make your case.
He's not. Even the marginal attention I pay this board compared to some of you told me you are wrong in your accusations. If the search feature still worked, you could find out for yourself. As it is, just take my word for it.
Texasrush, I to worked at FedEx for a little while, and I wouldn't have cared who you were, if you're not carrying your share of the load, it would have pissed me off too.
Well...I still work for FedEx, have worked my way up into management, and it wasn't just a short break. It was the whole night...Also, go back and read my post d****bag, I said that I realize that our program is clean, and I want us to always appear clean, you put that scene in the wrong hands and they will run with it. For your information, I talked with Antonio and Billy both about this and told them how bad that scene appeared. I never make rules out of exceptions, and I know that night was an exception, but because of the visibility of Tiger B'ball players in Memphis, especially around the FedEx Hub/HQ, it is imperitave that they be heald to a higher standard. By the way d****bags, I make more than Antonio and Billy both now.....the intent of my message was not sour grapes, but rather to show some fans who are out of touch with reality, that, when our program is constantly scruitnized, the last thing we need is the appearance of evil....
texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
I go work Monday - friday 40 hours a week. I sit in my office and stare at my computer for about 30 of those hours. The other ten is me actually getting work done. Some people are lazy and some people have great bosses.
texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
texasrush Wrote:Well...I still work for FedEx, have worked my way up into management, and it wasn't just a short break. It was the whole night...Also, go back and read my post d****bag, I said that I realize that our program is clean, and I want us to always appear clean, you put that scene in the wrong hands and they will run with it. For your information, I talked with Antonio and Billy both about this and told them how bad that scene appeared. I never make rules out of exceptions, and I know that night was an exception, but because of the visibility of Tiger B'ball players in Memphis, especially around the FedEx Hub/HQ, it is imperitave that they be heald to a higher standard. By the way d****bags, I make more than Antonio and Billy both now.....the intent of my message was not sour grapes, but rather to show some fans who are out of touch with reality, that, when our program is constantly scruitnized, the last thing we need is the appearance of evil....
Dude, no offense because I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on the first heald but two in one thread in two different posts? You are 30 yrs old and you don't know how to spell held?
TigerTrill4life Wrote:texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
I go work Monday - friday 40 hours a week. I sit in my office and stare at my computer for about 30 of those hours. The other ten is me actually getting work done. Some people are lazy and some people have great bosses.
Totally, totally true +1
Texasrush, I've read both your posts and I still don't know what your point is! That is about a worthless waste of time that I've seen in a long while.
texasrush Wrote:Well...I still work for FedEx, have worked my way up into management, and it wasn't just a short break. It was the whole night...Also, go back and read my post d****bag, I said that I realize that our program is clean, and I want us to always appear clean, you put that scene in the wrong hands and they will run with it. For your information, I talked with Antonio and Billy both about this and told them how bad that scene appeared. I never make rules out of exceptions, and I know that night was an exception, but because of the visibility of Tiger B'ball players in Memphis, especially around the FedEx Hub/HQ, it is imperitave that they be heald to a higher standard. By the way d****bags, I make more than Antonio and Billy both now.....the intent of my message was not sour grapes, but rather to show some fans who are out of touch with reality, that, when our program is constantly scruitnized, the last thing we need is the appearance of evil....
Hey man I don't know if you are legit or not. Doesn't really matter to me. But I will say the two players you speak about aren't exactly bellweather guys. 2nd as has been pointed out, the NCAA has verified the program in fact the school holds it up as an example:
http://academics2.memphis.edu/internship...tories.htm
Do you really think with the rep Cal and the school has they would be promoting this program or in other words giving it such high visibility? I somehow doubt you are a manager, due to the misspellings in your post (inturn,imperitave,heald, scruitnized - sounds like you went to pukeT not Memphis) and the lack of strategic thinking you displayed on your post.
Again I don't know you and if you are for real, your sentiments are duly noted but it is suspiciously like other $EC fans on this board. So in short we have your word vs. the Uni and the NCAA...guess who most of us will side with.
texasrush Wrote:I am an avid Tiger supporter, but I must chime in here and give a personal account that I had while working at the hub in Memphis back during the winter of 2002/2003. If you do not want to hear the truth, then do not read on.
It was time for my performance review. I was told to go sit in this conference room and wait for my manager to come in there. I went in and sat down. There were three gentlemen sitting in the conference room talking. One was older and the other two were very young. As I looked closer I couldn't believe it, they were Antonio Burks and Billy Richardson. They were very nice. We all sat there and talked for a very long time. The old man was filling Billy's head with stuff like, "you need to be shootin the ball more," I told Billy not to listen and play team ball. All I can say is, long after my review, they were all still sitting in there, on the clock, just talking and bs'n around and doing no work. Take it for what it's worth. I've supported the Tigers since I was five years old. I'm now 30, and made the drive down to San Antonio. I'm still hurting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe the inturn program is legit. I just don't believe that the players are really heald accountable for the type of money they get paid to be there. At the time, I was 24 years old. I was supporting my grandmother and myself and attending college. I was only getting paid $11.50 an hour and I lost weight in that sweat pit of a hub, to the tune of 20 pounds because I was having to work so hard. It just needs to be a little more on the up and up, know what I mean? I know some of you will look at my SN and say I'm trying to cause trouble. I just happen to be a Tiger fan who moved to Texas two years ago. This is all the truth and I only want our program to appear to be as clean as I know it is....
somebody's got to do the work, sucker-
Everybody knows the intern deal is a joke. Get over it and hump some more packages for me. MrsTigerTommy has some stuff coming in for our new house and it better be on time GD!
I love you guys....I'm glad to be in here discussing w/you. Oh, and sorry for my typo on held...I guess no one has ever done that....right???
OH yeah, is the picture of CDR slamming over Love going to be made into a poster? I would love that for my office at work. You know, the one that I sit in for 40 out of the 50 hours that I put in...
With fans like some of us, who needs hogs from Ark, or hillbillies from Tn over here.
It always amazes me how cynical some of you are.
Go Tigers!
tigerloyal Wrote:With fans like some of us, who needs hogs from Ark, or hillbillies from Tn over here.
It always amazes me how cynical some of you are.
Go Tigers!
The FedEx internship program is what it is. But don't come on the board and tell about ONE incident you witnessed where you saw two basketball players taking an extended break. Big freakin' deal. What was his point is what we were asking. Tell us what is so illegal with NCAA rules about taking extended breaks at work. The NCAA states that all benefits and pay should be equal as regular employees. The two bb players named were taking an extended break with a regular employee (the old man). It's not like the 2 bb players were taking extended breaks by themselves.
Let he who has never taken an extended break, throw the first stone! lol
Go Tigers!
Who's Billy Richardson and what does he have to do with Tiger basketball?
There are plenty of people in this world who get paid to sit on their asses, not just Tiger basketball players. I doubt that all of the people who post on message boards during the day are sitting at home while they are doing it.
klg316 Wrote:Who's Billy Richardson and what does he have to do with Tiger basketball?
You never heard of Billy Richardson? All Tiger basketball fans know who he is. He was a hot shot basketball player who could hit 3's but has caused the NCAA to investigate Memphis for possible improprieties with the FedEx Internship where basketball players have extended breaks.
However, Richardson is not to be confused with Richmond or other Billys who have donned the Tiger jersey.
texasrush Wrote:I love you guys....I'm glad to be in here discussing w/you. Oh, and sorry for my typo on held...I guess no one has ever done that....right???
OH yeah, is the picture of CDR slamming over Love going to be made into a poster? I would love that for my office at work. You know, the one that I sit in for 40 out of the 50 hours that I put in...
Man that would be a sweet *** poster. I think Ill walk down to plan xpress tomorrow and get them to blow it up for me. Not like I actually work on Mondays anyways.
He pig dude!!! Tell your buddies at Hogville that Arkysauce said hello and that "mephica" as they call us is doing fine. Now go back to your "correspondence courses" with Corey Beck and company
OneShiningMoment Wrote:klg316 Wrote:Who's Billy Richardson and what does he have to do with Tiger basketball?
You never heard of Billy Richardson? All Tiger basketball fans know who he is. He was a hot shot basketball player who could hit 3's but has caused the NCAA to investigate Memphis for possible improprieties with the FedEx Internship where basketball players have extended breaks.
However, Richardson is not to be confused with Richmond or other Billys who have donned the Tiger jersey.
Is he any relation to Nolan Richardson?
texasrush Wrote:I love you guys....I'm glad to be in here discussing w/you. Oh, and sorry for my typo on held...I guess no one has ever done that....right???
OH yeah, is the picture of CDR slamming over Love going to be made into a poster? I would love that for my office at work. You know, the one that I sit in for 40 out of the 50 hours that I put in...
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Who and the hell is Billy Richardson??
Arkansas knows how to pay players. They've done it so much through the years.
Quote:The NCAA Infractions Committee ruled Arkansas committed three major violations and one secondary infraction. The school and NCAA found that from 1994-99 at least 20 football and basketball players were overpaid an estimated $4,300 total, an average of $215 each, for part-time jobs at J&H Truck Service in Dallas, owned by university booster Ted Harrod.
Besides having to file annual reports to the NCAA describing corrective actions, the school lost 10 football scholarships -- two per year -- and one scholarship in 2004 in men's basketball.
Arkansas, using private funds, spent about $250,000 on an outside consultant and spent thousands more investigating and defending itself. The school made several changes to improve its rules compliance system; it stepped up oversight of high-access boosters and athletes' jobs and it increased education of coaches, staff, athletes and boosters.
Arkansas also added a second full-time employee for compliance issues.
"Integrity is on my mind and our staff's mind every day," Athletic Director Frank Broyles said. "That's been my priority ever since I became a coach. We're working just as hard to eliminate unintentional mistakes and mistakes by people outside the athletic department."
In the J&H case, athletes were working jobs without notifying the athletic department, as required by the NCAA. The athletic department wasn't vigilant enough in monitoring and "assumed that nothing was going on," White said. "I think there were just too many assumptions made."
Harrod said he was set up. He said his former daughter-in-law, Karey Harrod, was motivated by vindictiveness when she accused him of lavishing money on Arkansas athletes and coaches. The NCAA interviewed Karey Harrod and eventually discounted her testimony, but the Infractions Committee believed the overpayments were intentional.
"I don't think there's any belief that it was inadvertent," Infractions Committee Chairman Tom Yeager said.
Harrod, who donated more than $285,000 to athletics from 1987-2000, said the university made him a scapegoat. He said he wouldn't have minded playing that role if Arkansas officials had told him that's what they wanted him to do.
White said Harrod appeared to be an unwitting party.
"I don't think he in any way knew that there were violations occurring," White said. "I think that he was well-intended and thought that everything was being handled according to the rules. I don't think that he was at all trying to cut corners or anything else. I just think this was really, really a sad situation on all sides. But still it was a violation so we had to pay the penalty."
While probation is over, the school is on repeat violator status. In this instance, any school that has committed a major infraction is subject to more severe penalties if another major infraction happens within five years of the previous case. Arkansas has two more years under that threat.
Cletus Wrote:Arkansas knows how to pay players. They've done it so much through the years.
Quote:The NCAA Infractions Committee ruled Arkansas committed three major violations and one secondary infraction. The school and NCAA found that from 1994-99 at least 20 football and basketball players were overpaid an estimated $4,300 total, an average of $215 each, for part-time jobs at J&H Truck Service in Dallas, owned by university booster Ted Harrod.
Besides having to file annual reports to the NCAA describing corrective actions, the school lost 10 football scholarships -- two per year -- and one scholarship in 2004 in men's basketball.
Arkansas, using private funds, spent about $250,000 on an outside consultant and spent thousands more investigating and defending itself. The school made several changes to improve its rules compliance system; it stepped up oversight of high-access boosters and athletes' jobs and it increased education of coaches, staff, athletes and boosters.
Arkansas also added a second full-time employee for compliance issues.
"Integrity is on my mind and our staff's mind every day," Athletic Director Frank Broyles said. "That's been my priority ever since I became a coach. We're working just as hard to eliminate unintentional mistakes and mistakes by people outside the athletic department."
In the J&H case, athletes were working jobs without notifying the athletic department, as required by the NCAA. The athletic department wasn't vigilant enough in monitoring and "assumed that nothing was going on," White said. "I think there were just too many assumptions made."
Harrod said he was set up. He said his former daughter-in-law, Karey Harrod, was motivated by vindictiveness when she accused him of lavishing money on Arkansas athletes and coaches. The NCAA interviewed Karey Harrod and eventually discounted her testimony, but the Infractions Committee believed the overpayments were intentional.
"I don't think there's any belief that it was inadvertent," Infractions Committee Chairman Tom Yeager said.
Harrod, who donated more than $285,000 to athletics from 1987-2000, said the university made him a scapegoat. He said he wouldn't have minded playing that role if Arkansas officials had told him that's what they wanted him to do.
White said Harrod appeared to be an unwitting party.
"I don't think he in any way knew that there were violations occurring," White said. "I think that he was well-intended and thought that everything was being handled according to the rules. I don't think that he was at all trying to cut corners or anything else. I just think this was really, really a sad situation on all sides. But still it was a violation so we had to pay the penalty."
While probation is over, the school is on repeat violator status. In this instance, any school that has committed a major infraction is subject to more severe penalties if another major infraction happens within five years of the previous case. Arkansas has two more years under that threat.
So, wonder if "Look to your own house before pointing fingers" apply to Arkysaucedup fans too????
Like any other Intern Program at a major corporation, there are going to be instances where a particular manager or director may or may not deploy a particular intern in a productive manner.
I've known about 7 or 8 folks who have interned with FedEx, and know of over a half dozen managers and directors who have had interns assigned to them. I've been told that it can be difficult for a manager/director to assign heavy-duty work (other than sitting in on staff meetings, making copies, etc.) to a young kid who's only going to be around for 2 or 3 months out of the year...and sometimes a kid may get assigned to a manager who is pretty skilled at "goofing off" a little.
I personally know of several instances where interns were assigned some real work (financial forecasting in Excel, doing equipment inventories, etc.) and ended up creating even more work for the regular individual contributors who had to clean up behind the particular intern's "productive" summer output. But corporate politics being what it is, the managers and directors of said individual contributors receive accolades for being "team players" at the expense of additional work being imparted on their individual contributors who are the ones who actually supervise the cute little interns.
I see no controversy with the basketball team's participation in FedEx's Intern Program. I do know that the biggest challenge with the program is that it has actually evolved into a situation whereby it's turned into a highly-paid summertime welfare program for children & close relatives of managers, directors, and VPs that either work at the company or who are close friends of executive management within the firm...a most unfortunate development that seems to prevail in ANY intern program that is managed a little too loosely...see the Memphis City Government's summer jobs program for another example.
Billy Richardson has left the building..........
The Arkansas board cracked me up wtih all the comments about how unsafe Memphis is. I only laughed out load when I read the comment that I felt safer in Washington DC than Memphis. What a hoot!!