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the FTs were huge but can't believe Memphis let Chalmers get off that 3. they should've fouled on the floor before the shot was ever taken. No way they lose if they commit the foul.

missing 4 of 5 puts the game in overtime

And since when is slamming the ball on the court not a technical.

Should have been a technical and those missed free throws just cost them the championship (i hope). Go Jayhawks!

Should not have been a technical because refs knew it wasn't done in protest of a bad call. And lets wait to see if Memphis lose to determine whether or not Cal thinks FT's aren't important.

Freethrows are not that important. They just win national championships, or lose them. Afterall it is just a game.

Free throws don't matter. Gawd, you know they're bleeding to death on MT.org.

This thread was only a matter of time wasn't it?

Wouldn't it be nice to still be playing in April?

I say this on this board before some Memphis fan does.

There should not have been a T and it was much more than free throws that cost them the game.

In addition, Rose was fouling the hell out of him and they did not make the call. At6 least that was what the replay showed. Maybe Rose was not aggressive enough on trying to foul.

Rose may or may not have been trying to foul, but it definitely wasn't hard enough to get those refs to call it on that night. They were letting A LOT of stuff go all night.

Sure looked like Rose fouled Chalmers just the way you're supposed to. Of course, it also looked like Rose had lifted his front (inside the line) foot before letting go of the non-3.

But the real lesson is: a non-BCS team can NOT expect the referees to decide a chamopionship game in their favor. Just as we saw on February 16th, there is never an even court. Referees are human and give the benefit of the doubt to the team they think deserves it.

I thought Memphis lost when Dorsey fouled out. Something seemed to go out of them from that moment.

There should be a rule where a coach whose team is behind can send one of his assistance to the ref during a TO and explain "we're going to intentionally foul #XX, please watch for it". I think this would help, but the specific situations would have to be outlined in the rule.

Rose didn't lift up his foot. It was a 2, no question.

As for CDR slamming down the ball, I'm glad they didn't call that a t. He was obviously frustrated with himself and worn out. Now when Dorsey grabbed and held the ball and looked at his bench after that dunk, they should have called that. But as someone already said, they weren't calling much all night. Which I think made for a better game.

Too bad for the Memphis kids, though. As much as I hate Memphis, it's players, it's coach, and it's fan base, I was pulling for them. It was painfull.

You could tell they were all just worn out in OT. I think the matchup with Rush on CDR was the deciding factor in the game. It forced Rose or the big men to win the game for them. They almost did. Normally, if Kansas was not hitting the 3 and CDR was on his game, it would have been a blow out.

Muck Femphis.
Free throws, free throws, free throws.

Rose's only attempt to foul is the hip-check just after crossing half-court. Of course, he's putting his arms up like players do when they're trying to show that they aren't fouling, so it just looks like a little contact was made and the KU player lost his balance.

Yeah, doesn't use his hands to foul.

So Memphis wins at Bartow on a non-call at mid-court, loses in San Antonio on the same call.

Karma. She sure is my first wife.

Now they understand something of how we felt on a certain February Saturday.

I see they are quiet this morning. Nothing like a little humble pie to quell an invasion.

and that was posted on empty.org
1, 2, 3, 4, 5....seconds ago.

I'll know who to thank when it happens

It was obviously under much different circumstances but I asked XCMA about that strategy. He basically made up all sorts of scenarios where the probabilities of success were very small. I've always wondered why they don't call for the foul in those situations. Too many big time shooters...I'll take my chances having someone shoot 2FT's and hope to get the ball back.

They "might" be favored to win C-USA next year, but there's no way in Memphis that they'll get back to the Final Four (or the national championship game) anytime soon. They blew it.

Speak to me my name is earl

Maybe, but one made free throw at the end of the game would have made them National Champions.

And maybe, if they hadn't been a player short, they wouldn't have been so tired heading into the overtime, either.

Memphis did much on Monday night to increase the reputation and credibility of CUSA. Every CUSA school can raise their heads a little higher because of the season Memphis had this year. Capitalize on it.

The Memphis guys still have that arrogance when posting. Even Duke fans are not as arrogant as Memphis fans. If other CUSA teams just happen to get noticed more due to Memphis this year, so be it, but NO ONE is counting on it. What will get noticed is how Memphis could not recover from the choke job when they do not win CUSA next year and end up in the NIT.

My brother, I actually read their message board last night and it appears that you - like half the posters over there - are totally wrong about the choke job:

Memphis lost because a CBS sideline reporter told the referees to check again on Derrick Rose's pretzel-twist 3-pointer, showing that the network is part of a BCS conspiracy to stop the Tigers where no basketball team could. Some of the people in tinfoil hats name Jim Nantz, others Jim Grey (even the name shows he's an agent of the gray aliens). Not sure which one was on the grassy knoll.

I have to disagree with you. Although I dislike Memphis, what they did in the tourny for sure got us more attention. Just with them making it as far as they did will assure that we get at least one more team in next year. Even if the second best team in the conference has no right to be in, they will get in just because of what Memphis did this year. Assuming that they don't completely choke next season. You can thank the team and Cal for that. We may not have needed them to do this to get more than one in, with the expected improvements in a few conference teams this year. But it sure didn't hurt.

Why is this on the Smack board???? There is no Smack in it. It is simply a discussion of the championship game. This board is getting out of control.

I hope you are right, but we can agree to disagree.

That's fair.

after watching them miss FTs all i could think about was Darius Washington Jr. Guess things haven't changed much eh Cal?