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If you live in the city limits of Birmingham, please go out and vote today. That is all.

BlazintheATL Wrote:If you live in the city limits of Birmingham, please go out and vote today. That is all.

Sorry, I stood all I could stand, no longer my problem.

But those that haven't abandoned ship please do vote. I couldn't say if any of these canidates are worth a damn, at least try something different.

bump; one hour til the polls close

BlazerDAD Wrote:

BlazintheATL Wrote:If you live in the city limits of Birmingham, please go out and vote today. That is all.

Sorry, I stood all I could stand, no longer my problem.

But those that haven't abandoned ship please do vote. I couldn't say if any of these canidates are worth a damn, at least try something different.

In a way its still our problem if we live in the metro area but it seems to me that the city has passed a tipping point. Im not sure its fixable. Im not usually this downbeat but this city is a mess and there is no light I can see at the tunnels end.

Sorry for the negativity I think the young girls death has got to me more than I realized. I think about a young talented woman with her whole life ahead of her having a good time with her friends and her life ended for nothing. Its just so frustrating, scary, senseless, infuriating

75 of 157 precincts reporting (48%)
Larry Langford 13,001 48%
Patrick Cooper 8,616 32%
(i) Bernard Kincaid 2,153 8%
William Bell 1,713 6%
Carole Smitherman 891 3%
Valerie Abbott 447 2%
Barry Taylor 39 0%
Darryl Perry 36 0%
Buddy Hendrix 26 0%
Raymond Brooks 22 1%

How embarrassing is it to only have received 22 votes?

BTR Wrote:75 of 157 precincts reporting (48%)
Larry Langford 13,001 48%
Patrick Cooper 8,616 32%
(i) Bernard Kincaid 2,153 8%
William Bell 1,713 6%
Carole Smitherman 891 3%
Valerie Abbott 447 2%
Barry Taylor 39 0%
Darryl Perry 36 0%
Buddy Hendrix 26 0%
Raymond Brooks 22 1%

How embarrassing is it to only have received 22 votes?

Where can I find the update on the vote and does B'ham have a run off system or simple majority system?

braish Wrote:

BTR Wrote:75 of 157 precincts reporting (48%)
Larry Langford 13,001 48%
Patrick Cooper 8,616 32%
(i) Bernard Kincaid 2,153 8%
William Bell 1,713 6%
Carole Smitherman 891 3%
Valerie Abbott 447 2%
Barry Taylor 39 0%
Darryl Perry 36 0%
Buddy Hendrix 26 0%
Raymond Brooks 22 1%

How embarrassing is it to only have received 22 votes?

Where can I find the update on the vote and does B'ham have a run off system or simple majority system?

myfoxal.com has a link. It's 49% to 31% now

Is Birmingham really gonna elect Larry Langford? If he wins with 47% there might as well not be a runoff.

That is a landslide. I don't know if you have to have a majority or not. My guess would be yes but I don't know.

I'm just crossing my fingers that Langford doesn't get the 51% and that there's a run off.

Uncle Larry has 49.86% now.

I would love to know WHICH precincts are reported in. It probably doesn't matter. It is going to be very difficult to come back from that far down.

He will probably win. The idiots that voted him in will get poorer while everything good around here goes to Hoover. Here's to 4 more years of nothing.

I say it is time for the kingdom of UAB to make one more big expansion to take much of southside, and then put the walls up. We can't save all of Birmingham but at least we can control the campus.

50.88%!

LightEmUp70 Wrote:He will probably win. The idiots that voted him in will get poorer while everything good around here goes to Hoover. Here's to 4 more years of nothing.

Do you live in the city limits, by chance?

Unless a majority of those last 57 precints are swinging against Langford, it looks like he is the mayor.

pruitt11 Wrote:

LightEmUp70 Wrote:He will probably win. The idiots that voted him in will get poorer while everything good around here goes to Hoover. Here's to 4 more years of nothing.

Do you live in the city limits, by chance?

I did live right in Southside until about 3 or 4 months ago. Now the city listed in my mailing address says Birmingham, but I technically live in Irondale. I don't know how this stuff works.

GreenMississippi Wrote:I say it is time for the kingdom of UAB to make one more big expansion to take much of southside, and then put the walls up. We can't save all of Birmingham but at least we can control the campus.

Funny thing, someone asked William Bell at the UAB Mayoral forum last week if UAB was in Birmingham or if Birmingham was in UAB...

Uncle Larry is back down to 49% now.

Hopefully they haven't counted the southside/highland park precinct as I imagine it to be very strongly supporting Cooper.

Blazeramo Wrote:

BlazerDAD Wrote:

BlazintheATL Wrote:If you live in the city limits of Birmingham, please go out and vote today. That is all.

Sorry, I stood all I could stand, no longer my problem.

But those that haven't abandoned ship please do vote. I couldn't say if any of these canidates are worth a damn, at least try something different.

In a way its still our problem if we live in the metro area but it seems to me that the city has passed a tipping point. Im not sure its fixable. Im not usually this downbeat but this city is a mess and there is no light I can see at the tunnels end.

Sorry for the negativity I think the young girls death has got to me more than I realized. I think about a young talented woman with her whole life ahead of her having a good time with her friends and her life ended for nothing. Its just so frustrating, scary, senseless, infuriating

I know that one life is worth no more than any other life, but how can you say that one death affected you more than the 105 last year and the 109 the year before?

He does need 50% + 1 vote to avoid the runoff.

80% precincts in, Larry has 49.39%.

Assuming 53,000 voters total in this election:

Larry has 21,538 with 81% reporting, and needs only 5,000 more votes of the 10,000 remaining to secure a victory without a runoff.

For Cooper to even get 40% of the vote, he needs to get 8,500 of the remaining 10,000. That is almost impossible.

Only chance Cooper has is if the runoff has a low turnout for Langford, but as I'm typing this more precincts are coming in and the election is not getting any closer. Right now it is best for Birmingham if the remaining candidates bow out as Larry will have 49% of the vote and it will be impossible to beat that in a runoff.

GreenMississippi Wrote:Assuming 53,000 voters total in this election:

Larry has 21,538 with 81% reporting, and needs only 5,000 more votes of the 10,000 remaining to secure a victory without a runoff.

For Cooper to even get 40% of the vote, he needs to get 8,500 of the remaining 10,000. That is almost impossible.

Only chance Cooper has is if the runoff has a low turnout for Langford, but as I'm typing this more precincts are coming in and the election is not getting any closer. Right now it is best for Birmingham if the remaining candidates bow out as Larry will have 49% of the vote and it will be impossible to beat that in a runoff.

Only the top two vote getters advance to the runoff, so the remaining names are essentially forced to bow out.

87% precincts in, Langford at 49.86%.

My bad, the remaining CANDIDATE to bow out (so long as 3rd place doesn't get a chance to claim Cooper's sport and force the runoff).

If he does not win outright, I expect a huge battle for the next few weeks and I would not count it as automatic that he will win the runoff.

Why are you guys so against Lankford? Ya'll are listening to the people that do not want Birmingham to grow. HE is a BIG UAB supporter and grad. I personaly have not spoken to Mr. Cooper and I hear through good political sources that he is a fine candidate also. So I think it looks good for B'ham that Kinkad and Bell are OUT.

GreenMississippi Wrote:My bad, the remaining CANDIDATE to bow out (so long as 3rd place doesn't get a chance to claim Cooper's sport and force the runoff).

If this thing goes to a runoff and Cooper does choose to rescind rather than compete, he obviously wasn't cut out for politics.

I didn't say he would rescind, and don't think I would either. That said, elections are costly and someone getting 49.9% of the vote is seldom going to lose a runoff.

49.76% with 97% of the precincts in.

GreenMississippi Wrote:That said, elections are costly and someone getting 49.9% of the vote is seldom going to lose a runoff.

They sure aren't with that kind of attitude.

Personally, I'd go on a smear campaign frenzy.

99% of the precincts in, Langford has 49.98%...

Cooper will win a runoff. The publicity he will get from just being in the runoff to begin with will help him. The extra several weeks for Cooper to get his name and plan out there will allow people to see what a breath of fresh air he would be for Birmingham. If Langford wins, it will be 4 more years of the same old crap!

Uncle Larry won, 50.33%.

Oh well...hopefully cooper will win in 2011. why in the heck do people want langford? it astounds me.

Langford said he's going to be meeting with Rogers about the dome/arena. I would love to have a recording of that:

Rogers: mmm mmm rrrr mmmm
Langford: You turkey I ought to kick your butt for that.
Roger: mmm uuuuu ggggggrurr
Langford: Oh I see we should make it expandable to 100,000 seats even if it bankrupts the county so we can have all the classics at the same time on the same day.

Thank God that I live in Shelby County...out of the clutches of LLLarry LLLangford. I just hope it does not affect our beloved UAB.

There were WAY too many people running for mayor. There should have been an automatic runoff for elections with X number of candidates. This would have paired LLLarry with Cooper. Would have made for great debate.

1st Visionland, then the aquarium, and now the dome. The dome is now a surefire success!

StunnerJR Wrote:

Blazeramo Wrote:In a way its still our problem if we live in the metro area but it seems to me that the city has passed a tipping point. Im not sure its fixable. Im not usually this downbeat but this city is a mess and there is no light I can see at the tunnels end.

Sorry for the negativity I think the young girls death has got to me more than I realized. I think about a young talented woman with her whole life ahead of her having a good time with her friends and her life ended for nothing. Its just so frustrating, scary, senseless, infuriating

I know that one life is worth no more than any other life, but how can you say that one death affected you more than the 105 last year and the 109 the year before?

Its a good question. The answers are probably because I read about her death on Blazertalk and there were a few who posted who knew her personally. Also whether its fair or not, she was so young and seemed like she was well on her way to making something of herself.
Its like when a 20 yr. old and a 70 yr. old are killed in an accident. Both deaths are tragic but the 70 yr. old got to experience much of life that the younger person did not.

Also, many of the murders in the past couple of years have been crime- gang- or drug-related. That takes away much of my sympathy. While the wasted life is sad, the outcome of that type life is obvious to everyone.

Langford shouldn't even be thinking dome until he does something to address the crime problem in the city. This guy's a crook and my guess is before his four years are up he'll be exposed.

My wife was watching the news last night and a reporter at Kincaid's gathering asked him if he had any advice for Langford. Apparently, his response was an eye-roll and something along the lines of 'Stay under the budget.'

Just some comments:

Has a non-indicted incumbant ever lost so bad in any election? (Kincaid)

I don't know Carole Smitherman, but in Sundays Birmingham News, in the area where they asked all types of questions about what each would do as mayor, she is the only one that mentioned UAB by name and also stated that B'ham should invest in UAB.

Based on that, she would have gotten my vote.

HellBlazer Wrote:Why are you guys so against Lankford?

Leapin' Larry lost me when he told me that voting against MAPS meant I didn't love my children.

Oh, well. At least he can't stay on the County Commission.

HellBlazer Wrote:Why are you guys so against Lankford? Ya'll are listening to the people that do not want Birmingham to grow. HE is a BIG UAB supporter and grad. I personaly have not spoken to Mr. Cooper and I hear through good political sources that he is a fine candidate also. So I think it looks good for B'ham that Kinkad and Bell are OUT.

Richard Scrushy was a big UAB supporter (only one speaking up for UAB on Black Tuesday) and a UAB graduate, and we all know what happened there, and I would venture to say Larry Langford is a bigger crook because he steals public money instead of a private corporation's money. Oh and don't forget that Scrushy and Langford were/are big pals.

mixduptransistor Wrote:Oh and don't forget that Scrushy and Langford were/are big pals.

The feds haven't forgotton. I'm looking for another fed run at Scrushy with Langford playing the role of Siegelman this time. There's got to be a good reason for them to have Langford's bank records. Smitherman may end up being Mayor after all.

As for the good people of Bham, the old Monte Python saying keeps coming to mind. "Run away! Run away!"

As disheartening as it was, I was actually a volunteer worker at the courthouse to help when all of the results started coming in. I actually got to see the results from every box as they came in. So needless to say, by the end of the night, I needed a beer. I'll tell you, there were a couple of locations where Cooper had almost every single vote, but like I said, only a couple. If I remember correctly, in Avondale, it was Cooper with 947, and Langford with 25. But almost every other box was all Langford. Ramsey, Crestwood Community School and a couple of others were also strong for Cooper, but should have been a lot stronger.

As I arrived in the City Hall parking deck, there was an obvious feeling of fear and depression in the air. It had already begun. Thirty minutes before the polls even closed and the city workers were already preparing for how bad it was about to be. Every single city worker I spoke to was scared of Langford and what was giong to happen to their jobs. There's a lot that people don't know about that goes down in the City Hall. Just to give you an example, as the remaining supplies were being returned, some of the workers were hiding the boxes of pens and other things because of how tight their budget for things like pens and paper is. It's that bad.

For those of you that are not aware how the poll results are turned in, it goes like this. Someone from every poll location is responsible for getting all of the tape of poll results, provisional ballots, supplies, laptops, cell phones, etc. back to the city hall. They pull into this parking deck in a single file line and one car at a time an army of city workers start unloading everything and taking it to their respective locations. My job was to pull of the tape from every location and go inside and tape it to the wall for the media to see. Let me tell you, this was the biggest clusterf#@k I have ever witnessed. Not because of the workers recieving everything, but the idiots returning everything not being able to follow simple instructions. These fools were Subpeona'd to take classes on how to do everything but were still putting cell phones in the boxes of provisional ballots, turning in empty envelopes, etc..

Perhaps the most disturbing thing to me was Jefferson County's failure to send out sample ballots to Southside, Forest Park, Crestwood, Avondale, and higland area residents. All areas where Cooper should have dominated more than he did. Nobody knew were to vote. Jefferson County changed voting locations, and failed to let people know. I was misled about my voting location until around noon when my wife tracked down where we were to go. This is what everyone was talking about when I got there. There were people talking about it at the bar I went to at 5:00 to claim my free beer they were giving away to anyone that voted. Makes me wonder how many people gave up after being turned away at 2-3 locations.

But whatever. It is what it is. I'm moving to Denver. I've got RLS and they just passed a law where you can have in your possesion...... well, n/m.

Good luck to us all, we need it.

HellBlazer Wrote:Why are you guys so against Lankford? Ya'll are listening to the people that do not want Birmingham to grow. HE is a BIG UAB supporter and grad. I personaly have not spoken to Mr. Cooper and I hear through good political sources that he is a fine candidate also. So I think it looks good for B'ham that Kinkad and Bell are OUT.

No offense dude, but where have you been? Langford is nothing but bad news for Birmingham. He wants money, and respect, and the lime-light. He tells you he wants Birmingham to grow, but he just wants you to like, and vote for him. He's a crook. No clue why he's not behind bars. It is beyond me. I hope to hell he is one day.

Read the article Bham Weekly just put out. I put a link to it in the here.