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All this nonsense aside....what do you Kennesaw fans (and one mercer fan) predict out of Belmont and Lipscomb this year

Well, the bottom 4 teams are going to be easy.... (Upstate, UNF, Stetson, FGCU)

I say Campbell and Gardner Webb fall in at #8 and #7 respectively.

I say Lipscomb falls at #4 out of the remaining 6, and Belmont is either 5th or 6th.

I bet that FGCU and Stetson arent that easy. Also remember that UNF took the almighty ETSU to the limit last year at UNF. Stetson also is a tough team to sweep. While I dont think that UNF or Upstate have a chance at the top of the league, I wouldnt count Stetson or FGCU out at this point. Stetson returns a very strong team, and FGCU should bring in a pretty good squad from DII if they were able to get them DI eligible.

Belmont finds a way to finish number 2 right behind us.

Yeah we also shot 30% and only scored 56 points. Worst shooting effort for the Bucs in some time. And I hope you dont think it was because of UNF's great defense.

I understand ETSU... Ohio State shot well below their three point average vs. florida and it had nothing to do with the defense...they were missing wide open looks and it was just an off day for them. In fact if ohio state had shot above 30 percent from three they would have won lol. Golfinger what makes you think belmont will be so great? They lost both of their big men... and i dont think their guards have enough to make up for it.

ETSUfan1 Wrote:Yeah we also shot 30% and only scored 56 points. Worst shooting effort for the Bucs in some time. And I hope you dont think it was because of UNF's great defense.

I am only suggesting that penciling in wins against any team in the conference is a misguided assumption. Sometimes your down game comes against a teams best game ... that might have been what happened against UNF for ya'll last year. I know UNF took Kennesaw to overtime at UNF as well and without Golden's last minute heroics we would have probably lost to them.

Belmont and Lipscomb are two of the most well coached teams in the conference. Lipscomb will always be good defensively which will keep them in games, and Belmont still has Justin Hare. G-Webb and Campbell will both be really good this year.

Buccaneerlover is absolutely correct.


Belmont is just smart. The conference isn't just going to roll over them next year. Belmont has never had what I would call talent, what they've got is a bunch of white guys who play with in their limitations and they do it under the watchful eye of that sweater wearing coach who I must begrudgingly admit is the best in the league.

They lose Boomer and Preston...but lets not forget what they are bringing back.


6-9 Keaton Belcher (Byrd will get production out of him)
6-11 Mike Dejworek (I don't know who this guy is)
6-8 Mathew Dotson (a six eight kid that can step out and hit the three)


Plus they have some 6-6 kids who I wont even bother with. They may not have quite the size that they did last year...but they will be right in the heart of it...I guarantee it.

For ETSU fans....I would describe Belmont as being like a really good Citadel team. Not an athlete among them, but they can shoot the three, they play well with each other, and they seem to know how to give ETSU trouble. It seems we've always had more trouble with little teams like that then we have had with big athletic teams.

Belmont is going to have a lot of trouble winning the conference unless one of their big men becomes a dominant force. This past season if you didnt clamp down on Boomer or the other guy they were pretty much going to score it or draw a foul. Once you clamped down their excellent shooters just knocked down wide open jump shots. In order for Belmont's offensive scheme from last year to work you have to have a dominant (or two) big men. Belmont is going to be good regardless, but they will have to chance up their scheme a bit it seems to make a run at the title...Byrd is a good coach so he should be able to put something together, but usually in system-oriented offenses like Belmont it is somewhat difficult to make adjustments. You almost have to find the players to fit the system...not change the system to fit the players.

Lipscomb will be better than ever in my opinion. Ard is going to win POY, their big men are solid, and there is no easier position to fill than combo guards which is what they lost. Lipscomb will finish in the top 3 guaranteed in my opinion...it depends on if their recruiting class can bring in a big hitter.

We'll see about Belmont, but Ard will not be POY.


And I am assuming that Lipscombs big men who are "solid" are the new comers.

Belmont will be in the top three, with us and Lipscomb, depending on how the rest of the summer goes. An injury in a pickup game, someone flunking out of summer school, etc... can change an entire team around.
Ard's a good player, but not the POTY.

Seeing that you are all in the northern division I doubt all three of you will finish top three... I am sure a southern team will be among the top lol

Yeah because you play extemely weak teams in the south.

Gotta love divisions. We didn't pick them. Plus, Mercer and JU have excellent teams as well. There's pushovers in both divisions and quite honestly, we don't have a clue how the top half of the teams are going to actually perform this year until OOC starts.

Three of the top four teams from last season are in one division, and guess what, they'll dominate the weaker south. I'm not talking about tournament seeding rube, I'm talking about talent. It's going to look really funny when Jacksonville has the only winning record in the south division, and there's four teams in the north that have winning records.

It'd be hilarious buclover cause something would have to go hilariously wrong.

I love Belmont to death and want to believe in our basketball teams next year, but it's going to be hard. We really don't have a presence in the paint since Boomer and Preston left. J-Hare is returning, along with Dotson, Harris, and Belcher. A lot of new blood will see some playing time this year. It's going to be another good year for basketball. Having the men's and women's tournament together will hopefully draw a bigger crowd. Good luck to all teams next year. It's anyone's game.

The math is simple jackass, we had four teams in the A-Sun finish with winning records last season, and three of them will be in one division. The ONLY hope for the south having two teams finishing the regular season with a winning record is Mercer.

Buccaneerlover Wrote:The math is simple jackass, we had four teams in the A-Sun finish with winning records last season, and three of them will be in one division. The ONLY hope for the south having two teams finishing the regular season with a winning record is Mercer.

Damn.. I guess we don't need to play next season then, you have it all figured out lets just skip all the actual games.

Last seasons records will be locked in for the next two years. An extension can be filed prior to the 08-09 season to get it extended for another 2 years. After that, they will in fact have to compete for a new ranking in 2010-11 should the extension pass. A statement from the league office has not been released although all schools are in agreeance that this will help ETSU's self-esteem problem. Unfortunately, not all is rosy in Johnson City seeing as they will have to watch Belmont advance to the NCAAs until the first round of negotiations.

Belmont,

I believe you'll be in the upper portion of the A-sun, however including the women into the tournament is not going to boost the attendance level. In fact, the attendance level stands a very high chance of dropping.

Goldfinger where is your speech about taking speculation as fact? Lover could use it.

"Three of the top four teams from last season are in one division, and guess what, they'll dominate the weaker south. I'm not talking about tournament seeding rube, I'm talking about talent. It's going to look really funny when Jacksonville has the only winning record in the south division, and there's four teams in the north that have winning records. "

There is a high probability that there will be one team with a winning record in the south, based on the previous seasons. I guess Prob and Stats isn't part of the curriculum at KSU.
And please don't point at Jacksonville as being some sort of proof about turnarounds, that doesn't happen very often.

Collinr01 Wrote:

Buccaneerlover Wrote:The math is simple jackass, we had four teams in the A-Sun finish with winning records last season, and three of them will be in one division. The ONLY hope for the south having two teams finishing the regular season with a winning record is Mercer.

Damn.. I guess we don't need to play next season then, you have it all figured out lets just skip all the actual games.

I've just got to assume that, as this is the smack talk forum, your posts are just for fun because you can't be serious about 50% of the things you say lol. They are good for a laugh though, so if that is your objective keep up the good work.

You cant take many of these ETSU fans seriously...if they are serious then they could be the greatest collection of obtuse and uninformed basketball fans I have ever come across. Surely they are just posting for kicks and are not being serious....right???

Mercer, Kennesaw, and JU could easily go 10-6 or 9-7 if all we do is go 3-3 against the North. The North is not that big and bad. 6-4 is a given against our South foes. 7-3 should be no problem.

You gotta take care of business with Upstate #1.

Then you have to take Campbell seriously and not let them score at will.

After that, you have to go 1-3 against the rest.

How many winning seasons has KSU had since it moved to division I? Is UNF, Stetson, or Florida Gulf Coast going to have a winning season? Guys seriously, get real about this. While I do think Mercer will show some improvement, your teams will still be weaker than those in the north.
Alot of this is just for fun, I would hope you guys are doing the same thing. Comments like saying your'e going to win the regular season title, or be the best team in Georgia, etc... can't be serious.

This forum reminds me so much of the ASun. Without ETSU fans, this forum would be nonexistant. OK, Mercer and the Kennesaw guys could talk about how next baseball season will look (no knock on you Mercer, you're the cream of the ASun crop).

Just like this forum, without ETSU there would be no mention of the ASun anywhere outside the conference.

kr983 Wrote:Goldfinger where is your speech about taking speculation as fact? Lover could use it.

I don't believe I have a speech to make Kr. I can't get a lock on what it is you Kennesaw fans are arguing with Lover about. You boys were boasting earlier about how excited you were that you are to reside in the south division because you thought it would give you a better chance to win the A-sun. Now you attack Lover for saying that the four best teams are in the North.

Any ETSU fan want to put a friendly wager on 2 of the 4 top teams being from the south? I am not predicting finishing order, but I will say that 2 out of the top 4 teams (record wise) will be from the South division. Who wants a piece of that action?

I will use an avatar for a month after the season of any ETSU fan's liking if I lose the wager. I will get to pick the avatars of whoever wants a piece of my bet.

Any takers?

KennesawBasketball Wrote:Any ETSU fan want to put a friendly wager on 2 of the 4 top teams being from the south? I am not predicting finishing order, but I will say that 2 out of the top 4 teams (record wise) will be from the South division. Who wants a piece of that action?

I will use an avatar for a month after the season of any ETSU fan's liking if I lose the wager. I will get to pick the avatars of whoever wants a piece of my bet.

Any takers?

I'll bet you get a LOT of takers on this one. Count me IN.

LOL. That's a good one.

There's not going to be anything left to bet on when the season gets here.

You're right Kevster, our forum wouldn't be nearly as active without ETSU. You guys probably double up the numbers. Hopefully this will bring in more fans from other schools though.

I hope so, too, Mercer. We already have all six fans from Kennesaw, though.

Present and accounted for. Maybe I should advertise this site and get more fans on here. That'd be interesting. Some can't handle the 6 as it stands. It'd be funny if we out numbered ETSU.

I'm not taking this bet, and I never made this claim. The reason is a simple math problem. If the four best teams are in the top division, at least two of them, possibly 3, stand a chance of having a poorer record given the fact that they play the best teams twice instead of just once.


Having said that, I believe buccaneer lover prefaced his entire argument with this very fact.

Buccaneerlover Wrote:Three of the top four teams from last season are in one division, and guess what, they'll dominate the weaker south. I'm not talking about tournament seeding rube, I'm talking about talent.

The Mercer newspaper e-mailed me when I was in school there in 2005. They put an article in the paper on this website. The only problem is no one reads a school newspaper -- at least not the small articles off the front page.

Nick M Wrote:Present and accounted for. Maybe I should advertise this site and get more fans on here. That'd be interesting. Some can't handle the 6 as it stands. It'd be funny if we out numbered ETSU.

Haha yea we should talk to some people on campus about it ;p

Nick,

At last count, there are only 6 Kennesaw fans in the world. And 2 of those are closet Georgia fans. There's always hope for another generation, though.

Let's see, if you doubled your fan base this year, then tripled it next year, double the following year....

I believe that leaves Kennesaw with 72 fans by the time they're D1 eligible.

Nick M Wrote:Present and accounted for. Maybe I should advertise this site and get more fans on here. That'd be interesting. Some can't handle the 6 as it stands. It'd be funny if we out numbered ETSU.

Maybe the first thing you should do is figure out how to create Kennesaw fans...then worry about getting them here.

kevster Wrote:Nick,

At last count, there are only 6 Kennesaw fans in the world. And 2 of those are closet Georgia fans. There's always hope for another generation, though.

Let's see, if you doubled your fan base this year, then tripled it next year, double the following year....

I believe that leaves Kennesaw with 72 fans by the time they're D1 eligible.

F^ck UGA.

Hell ya 72 fans in a few years, then they might actually pull the side seats down to accommodate the influx of students at the bball games! Lets see.. there are on average 3 people per game.. damn that would be a huge increase, I knew things were looking up.

So only 3 and a half months til basketball starts and we can really start some smack talk....

Aye MercerFan, just can't take any of this smack serious anymore, not like it ever was.

Mercer, who do you expect to be your starting five this year?

James Florence - PG
Shaddean Aaron - SG
Michael Ellis - G/F
Calvin Henry - F
Justin Davis - C

Coach Slon might use Dolan as a starter instead of Davis, depending how they look in the fall.

kevster Wrote:

KennesawBasketball Wrote:Any ETSU fan want to put a friendly wager on 2 of the 4 top teams being from the south? I am not predicting finishing order, but I will say that 2 out of the top 4 teams (record wise) will be from the South division. Who wants a piece of that action?

I will use an avatar for a month after the season of any ETSU fan's liking if I lose the wager. I will get to pick the avatars of whoever wants a piece of my bet.

Any takers?

I'll bet you get a LOT of takers on this one. Count me IN.

LOL. That's a good one.

Try only one taker...you. My point all along has been that there is more talent in the North, which will cause teams from the south to have a somewhat inflated record. This theory was lambasted by most ETSU fans, who are now agreeing with it as long as I am not the one that brought it up.

A team from the South just might win the regular season...although I wouldnt count on it. I think that ETSU and Lipscomb are the two teams to beat this coming year with Jacksonville, Mercer, and Kennesaw the next 4 in line (this includes the south record inflation due to an easier schedule).

I will make sure to take my team and pick out a great avatar for you Kevster. Make sure to hold up your end of the bargain.

It wasn't disagreed with...Buccaneer lover prefaced that with his original argument and was attacked by Kennesaw kids.

25 regular posters and we have probably another 100 or so who are lurkers. There are people from the old board on soconhoops that are here, that just don't post.

Nick M Wrote:Present and accounted for. Maybe I should advertise this site and get more fans on here. That'd be interesting. Some can't handle the 6 as it stands. It'd be funny if we out numbered ETSU.

Goldfinger why not take the bet? No confidence in your summer picks?

1. ETSU
2. Belmont
3. Jacksonville
4. Lipscomb