Just wondering if anyone knew this stuff before I scour the internet for answers...
I'm trying to get my projector hooked up in High Def. It has an M1-DA connection. The best price I could find for a Component to M1-DA is $40. Anyone know where I can get a better price?
Also, do I need a particular wire to run the component video lines to the proector? Or could I just use regular RCA cables?
I dont know jack **** about projectors but check here:
http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
Supposed to be the best deals around as far as cables, they probably should have what you are looking for.
Also, I do know that component and RCA cables are the same thing, just different colored ends, if you have an RCA version of the thing you are looking for with three wires it will work.
Not that you can't use "any" RCA cable for component but all three cables need to be by the same mfgr and same thickness.
It would be best to get actuall component cables and if a long cable run is in order I'd reccomend getting some Monster Cables m500 or m1000 sereis. --YES I know the yare expensive but in long cable runs they keep your signal up better than cheap stuff. If "Short" cable run I'd go with Monster Cable Video 2,3, or 4.
Raider_ATO Wrote:30 ft considered "Long"?
Actually yeah
For 30' I'd get m500
You might need to call upa local HT sho (non-chain) and they migh cut custom length ones for you. I know Tweeter does but not sure if they are in your area.
I have a 50' component cable that I run to my projector, bought at monoprice. There is no noticable quality difference.
Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Terpy Wrote:Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Yep, the quality of their stuff may be good, but you are paying a premium for the name.
I'm just going to go to the shop here at school and cut my own. They'll have some high quality stuff.
HuskiemobileMan Wrote:Terpy Wrote:Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Yep, the quality of their stuff may be good, but you are paying a premium for the name.
You will only have that opinion of them till you ahve someone ther than the local Best Buy/Circuit City salesperson actually demo you the difference. Go to a "boutique" home theatre store and you will find out what I mean.
Monster Cable is worth it and when a salesperson who knows about Monster Cable demo's the difference to you instead of giving you a "you need to buy these" speach you will see what I mean.
Now whether you need to buy their top of the line gear really depends on the gear you have.
HuskiemobileMan Wrote:Terpy Wrote:Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Yep, the quality of their stuff may be good, but you are paying a premium for the name.
Monster Cables are possibly the biggest scam ever perpetuaed on the consumer public
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:HuskiemobileMan Wrote:Terpy Wrote:Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Yep, the quality of their stuff may be good, but you are paying a premium for the name.
You will only have that opinion of them till you ahve someone ther than the local Best Buy/Circuit City salesperson actually demo you the difference. Go to a "boutique" home theatre store and you will find out what I mean.
Monster Cable is worth it and when a salesperson who knows about Monster Cable demo's the difference to you instead of giving you a "you need to buy these" speach you will see what I mean.
Now whether you need to buy their top of the line gear really depends on the gear you have.
i guarantee you i could set up 2 identical home theater systems in a blind test with and without monster cables and you would not be able to tell me the difference in a million years.
want to know why they're so expensive? one word. marketing. and in that respect, Monster is an unequivicable success.
Quote:Monster Cable and similar "boutique" cables are a main source of revenue for retailers of electronics such as DVD players and TVs. While the margins of DVD players and TVs are usually quite low, the high margins of Monster Cables and similar products provide important revenue for these retailers. The heavy marketing and corresponding bundling of Monster Cable and similar products are de-facto procedures for employees at these resellers.
Whether Monster analog cables actually provide better quality sound or video than generic cables is a highly debated topic among the audio and videophile communities. Various reviews have reported that listeners are unable to tell a difference between substantially higher-priced Monster cables and inexpensive cables.[1][2]
All digital cables will produce the same quality signal, no matter how cheap the cable, as a digital signal is either correct or totally lacking. Therefore, using Monster for digital interconnects, such as HDMI, DVI, Toslink (optical) audio, or digital audio, will yield no higher sound or video quality than the cheapest capable cable available, if the environment is correct to support digital signals, such as using cables with magnetic shielding.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:PirateTreasureNC Wrote:HuskiemobileMan Wrote:Terpy Wrote:Ive always heard that monster cable was the biggest rip off ever, I would avoid them like the plague.
Yep, the quality of their stuff may be good, but you are paying a premium for the name.
You will only have that opinion of them till you ahve someone ther than the local Best Buy/Circuit City salesperson actually demo you the difference. Go to a "boutique" home theatre store and you will find out what I mean.
Monster Cable is worth it and when a salesperson who knows about Monster Cable demo's the difference to you instead of giving you a "you need to buy these" speach you will see what I mean.
Now whether you need to buy their top of the line gear really depends on the gear you have.
i guarantee you i could set up 2 identical home theater systems in a blind test with and without monster cables and you would not be able to tell me the difference in a million years.
want to know why they're so expensive? one word. marketing. and in that respect, Monster is an unequivicable success.
Quote:Monster Cable and similar "boutique" cables are a main source of revenue for retailers of electronics such as DVD players and TVs. While the margins of DVD players and TVs are usually quite low, the high margins of Monster Cables and similar products provide important revenue for these retailers. The heavy marketing and corresponding bundling of Monster Cable and similar products are de-facto procedures for employees at these resellers.
Whether Monster analog cables actually provide better quality sound or video than generic cables is a highly debated topic among the audio and videophile communities. Various reviews have reported that listeners are unable to tell a difference between substantially higher-priced Monster cables and inexpensive cables.[1][2]
All digital cables will produce the same quality signal, no matter how cheap the cable, as a digital signal is either correct or totally lacking. Therefore, using Monster for digital interconnects, such as HDMI, DVI, Toslink (optical) audio, or digital audio, will yield no higher sound or video quality than the cheapest capable cable available, if the environment is correct to support digital signals, such as using cables with magnetic shielding.
Would you consider yourself a audio or videophile? Cuase if you answer YES to that then I suggest you go to a "boutique" (aka Big Box Chain like Circuit or Best Buy) home theatre store and have someone demo to you.
If you go buy one of those $400 home theatre in a box systems that has everything you want in one box and add some monster cable to it you would get better sound out of replacing the speaker wire and getting some nice video cables... but since you bought a $400 system you probabbly wouldn't buy the cables b/c obviously you don't care about the sound or video quality in your system.
I am no Monster Cable rep or own stock in the company but I did work at such a "boutique" store for nearly a year and I can tell you there is a significant difference in the construction and sound/video quality of Monster Cables vs the cheap stuff. Even the mid range AR stuff. I have seen and heard it w/ my own eyes and ears. I was skeptical till I got demo'd it.
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Monster Cable and similar "boutique" cables are a main source of revenue for retailers of electronics such as DVD players and TVs. While the margins of DVD players and TVs are usually quite low, the high margins of Monster Cables and similar products provide important revenue for these retailers. The heavy marketing and corresponding bundling of Monster Cable and similar products are de-facto procedures for employees at these resellers.
Whether Monster analog cables actually provide better quality sound or video than generic cables is a highly debated topic among the audio and videophile communities. Various reviews have reported that listeners are unable to tell a difference between substantially higher-priced Monster cables and inexpensive cables.[1][2]
All digital cables will produce the same quality signal, no matter how cheap the cable, as a digital signal is either correct or totally lacking. Therefore, using Monster for digital interconnects, such as HDMI, DVI, Toslink (optical) audio, or digital audio, will yield no higher sound or video quality than the cheapest capable cable available, if the environment is correct to support digital signals, such as using cables with magnetic shielding.
Any accesory you buy from Blank tapes and discs to cables have higher profit margins than the actual piece of electronics.... that point is mute IMHO.
Not true about construction of the cable.... Ever hear of electrical interference? IF so cut open a cheap coaxial video cable then cut in half a Monster one.... you will see a major difference in construction to get rid of the intereference wich makes your picture look less sharp. A discerning eye can tell. Look at the speaker wire as well-- running copper threads straight instead of in a twisted pair design actually produces more interefernce in the wire and thus what comes out of your speaker.--wether you need to also move up to the ones w/ different sizes of copper inside for transmitting bass (thicker strand) mid range (mid thickness) and highs (thin strand) is debatelable as the quality of your Receiver and Speakers would determine whether you can hear what/where that difference is. And as far as optical cables go... if you look at the cheap optical cables their sheath can bend ver easy and when optical cables bend out side of __ degrees ( I can't remember the exact number) the light does not pass through correctly. Also in general the quality of the contacts (Gold, Copper, Silver, palted) and the if they are solid or "open" ( for lack of a better word ) cut down in signal loss and oxidation of the contacts.
Now do you need Monster Cable m1000 cables vs the cheaper lines of Monster cables? That would be debateable -- it would really depend on the gear you are using.
I mean a Runco Plazma tv using a Pioneer Elite (or better) dvd player will pick out more "flaws" than say your Ilo ED Plazma and $30 progressive scan dvd player. If you are mid-fi shopper then I'd say low end Monster up to m500 is about all you'd really need to make you gear perform up to what it can really do. Only get above m500 series stuff if you have primo gear...like real real expensive gear.
PirateTreasureNC Wrote:Quote:Quote:
Monster Cable and similar "boutique" cables are a main source of revenue for retailers of electronics such as DVD players and TVs. While the margins of DVD players and TVs are usually quite low, the high margins of Monster Cables and similar products provide important revenue for these retailers. The heavy marketing and corresponding bundling of Monster Cable and similar products are de-facto procedures for employees at these resellers.
Whether Monster analog cables actually provide better quality sound or video than generic cables is a highly debated topic among the audio and videophile communities. Various reviews have reported that listeners are unable to tell a difference between substantially higher-priced Monster cables and inexpensive cables.[1][2]
All digital cables will produce the same quality signal, no matter how cheap the cable, as a digital signal is either correct or totally lacking. Therefore, using Monster for digital interconnects, such as HDMI, DVI, Toslink (optical) audio, or digital audio, will yield no higher sound or video quality than the cheapest capable cable available, if the environment is correct to support digital signals, such as using cables with magnetic shielding.
Any accesory you buy from Blank tapes and discs to cables have higher profit margins than the actual piece of electronics.... that point is mute IMHO.
Not true about construction of the cable.... Ever hear of electrical interference? IF so cut open a cheap coaxial video cable then cut in half a Monster one.... you will see a major difference in construction to get rid of the intereference wich makes your picture look less sharp. A discerning eye can tell. Look at the speaker wire as well-- running copper threads straight instead of in a twisted pair design actually produces more interefernce in the wire and thus what comes out of your speaker.--wether you need to also move up to the ones w/ different sizes of copper inside for transmitting bass (thicker strand) mid range (mid thickness) and highs (thin strand) is debatelable as the quality of your Receiver and Speakers would determine whether you can hear what/where that difference is. And as far as optical cables go... if you look at the cheap optical cables their sheath can bend ver easy and when optical cables bend out side of __ degrees ( I can't remember the exact number) the light does not pass through correctly. Also in general the quality of the contacts (Gold, Copper, Silver, palted) and the if they are solid or "open" ( for lack of a better word ) cut down in signal loss and oxidation of the contacts.
Now do you need Monster Cable m1000 cables vs the cheaper lines of Monster cables? That would be debateable -- it would really depend on the gear you are using.
I mean a Runco Plazma tv using a Pioneer Elite (or better) dvd player will pick out more "flaws" than say your Ilo ED Plazma and $30 progressive scan dvd player. If you are mid-fi shopper then I'd say low end Monster up to m500 is about all you'd really need to make you gear perform up to what it can really do. Only get above m500 series stuff if you have primo gear...like real real expensive gear.
like i said, monster are marketing geniuses. they know what they're doing. but if you enjoy blatantly getting ripped off, thats your choice. how many other cable brands can you list off the top of your head? exactly. why do you think that is? is it because monster is truly superior, or is it because retail chains have trained their employees to shove monster down your throat every time you walk in the door because they make more money off of it?
Quote:Never be swayed by technical jargon about why one cable is better than another. Much of this is pure marketing hype, with little or no relevance to how the cable will perform musically in your system. Trust your ears.
Electrical interference rarely happens at the cable level. It happens due to grounding issues on one (or both) outlets that your equipment is plugged in to.
Yes, some cables have better insulation than others, and when going long distances it can make a PQ difference (especially comparing Monster to the low end crap at Best Buy), but if you order stuff from places like Monoprice the quality is great.
Quote:Would you consider yourself a audio or videophile? Cuase if you answer YES to that then I suggest you go to a "boutique" (aka Big Box Chain like Circuit or Best Buy) home theatre store and have someone demo to you.
the very fact that you even call Best Buy and Circuit City "boutique" retailers makes me really question your credibility. people who are serious about their systems do not buy them in stores where there are refrigerators and dryers the next aisle over.
niuhuskie84 Wrote:Quote:Would you consider yourself a audio or videophile? Cuase if you answer YES to that then I suggest you go to a "boutique" (aka Big Box Chain like Circuit or Best Buy) home theatre store and have someone demo to you.
the very fact that you even call Best Buy and Circuit City "boutique" retailers makes me really question your credibility. people who are serious about their systems do not buy them in stores where there are refrigerators and dryers the next aisle over.
I should have said NOT --- BBY and CC are not boutique in any way.
There are a few other "premuim cable" maufacturers like Tributaries and a few others... but their distribution channels are so small you probabbly won't run into them.
Quote:like i said, monster are marketing geniuses. they know what they're doing. but if you enjoy blatantly getting ripped off, thats your choice. how many other cable brands can you list off the top of your head? exactly. why do you think that is? is it because monster is truly superior, or is it because retail chains have trained their employees to shove monster down your throat every time you walk in the door because they make more money off of it?
Tributaries for one but Monster has better distribution channels so unless you really dig around you won't hear to much about the other brands that offer equivalent leve of nice cable.
The NICE AR (Acoustic Research) cables you can find more readily are probabbly equivalent to Monster Video 1 stuff.