Heard Dolphins are arriving $47 million dollars for 7-yrs. YIKES! That's a lot of money lol..
The guy was a bad NFL coach, how does a great run in college football change his NFL coaching ability?
Terpy Wrote:The guy was a bad NFL coach, how does a great run in college football change his NFL coaching ability?
my thoughts exactly. some of these teams don't have a clue.
I don't understand why Carroll would leave. (Well, actullay, I do.....$47 million is a tidy sum) He's part of the college football elite. Someone needs to show him the footage of his years with the Jets.
I just read on espn.com that Carroll said he is staying put at USC.
flyingswoosh Wrote:Terpy Wrote:The guy was a bad NFL coach, how does a great run in college football change his NFL coaching ability?
my thoughts exactly. some of these teams don't have a clue.
Not a clue?
How about Carroll never had a legit shot in the NFL? You don't can a guy after 1 season. And Carroll had a winning record w/ the Pats.
He has also earned much more respect now.
I dont know, I think the general consensus at the time was Carrol didnt have what it takes to be an NFL head coach. He took a team in New England that had made the Superbowl the previous year and couldnt do much of anything with them, after he was fired two years later they were back in the superbowl again. I dont think it is a very good endorsement when somebody takes over a Superbowl team, limps into the playoffs twice, misses it the third, gets canned, and they are back in the Superbowl two years later. The team had talent, he just couldnt get anything done with it.
Terpy Wrote:The guy was a bad NFL coach, how does a great run in college football change his NFL coaching ability?
If everyone thought like that Bellichik never would have gotten another look after he sucked in his first job.
The difference is Carrol already had two shots, and he was still bad.
I think the main thing here, is that college success is not an indicator of pro success at all. If you are going to consider a guy like Carrol you had better see something in his pro coaching career that would make you want to consider him because college coaching career is not reliable as an indicator.
Terpy Wrote:I dont know, I think the general consensus at the time was Carrol didnt have what it takes to be an NFL head coach. He took a team in New England that had made the Superbowl the previous year and couldnt do much of anything with them, after he was fired two years later they were back in the superbowl again. I dont think it is a very good endorsement when somebody takes over a Superbowl team, limps into the playoffs twice, misses it the third, gets canned, and they are back in the Superbowl two years later. The team had talent, he just couldnt get anything done with it.
Maybe. Frankly, Billicheck worked a miracle, but that's not an endorsement of Carroll. And, I'd propose that Billicheck is one of the all-time greatest coaches...Lombardi calibre.
It's been said that Carroll's "rah rah" approach works better on college kids...and obviously that's been true. One thing that seemed to hurt him in the NFL is that with his age and his approach, players didn't buy into his style.
However, Carroll's success in college can give him NFL players' trust, that very something he lacked. Moreover, since alot of current NFL players were in college as he was at U$C, that too means that this time around they view him at the mentor level.
If I recall correctly Carol didn't so hot w/ the Jets right?
I think he went 6-10 in his one season with the Jets.